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Sun Oct 16, 2005 12:02 pm
Bungee wrote:
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Alex Butcher <alex.butcher.news0505_at_assursys.co.uk> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 16:05:05 +0000, **THE-RFI-EMI-GUY** wrote:
A ton of money could be saved by manufacturing items which utilize quality
materials and can be serviced readily. Too much money and resources are
spent filling landfills with appliances and goods which wear out
prematurely and cannot be repaired.
As long as purchase prices are low, repair knowledge amongst the general
public is low, and expert labour is expensive, many repairable items
probably won't be repaired anyway. A lot of people take a failure as an
excuse to go out and treat themselves to something newer and shinier. :-/
Personally, I've repaired a broken PSU in a VCR (cost me about 3.50GBP and
an hour of my time) and got my parents' TV working again (required a new
internal fuse - 10 for 1.98GBP in Maplin, and about 20mins of my time).
Best Regards,
Alex.
It isn't just the apparent relative costs. We live in a culture where enquiry
into how things work is actively discouraged along with their repair. This
operates at many levels. Peer pressure on frowns on kids that have had things
fixed by their dads (can't the mean ol' skinflint buy you a new one then).
Schools no longer teach proper engineering skills.
On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 16:05:05 +0000, **THE-RFI-EMI-GUY** wrote:
A ton of money could be saved by manufacturing items which utilize quality
materials and can be serviced readily. Too much money and resources are
spent filling landfills with appliances and goods which wear out
prematurely and cannot be repaired.
As long as purchase prices are low, repair knowledge amongst the general
public is low, and expert labour is expensive, many repairable items
probably won't be repaired anyway. A lot of people take a failure as an
excuse to go out and treat themselves to something newer and shinier. :-/
Personally, I've repaired a broken PSU in a VCR (cost me about 3.50GBP and
an hour of my time) and got my parents' TV working again (required a new
internal fuse - 10 for 1.98GBP in Maplin, and about 20mins of my time).
Best Regards,
Alex.
It isn't just the apparent relative costs. We live in a culture where enquiry
into how things work is actively discouraged along with their repair. This
operates at many levels. Peer pressure on frowns on kids that have had things
fixed by their dads (can't the mean ol' skinflint buy you a new one then).
Schools no longer teach proper engineering skills.
Unfortunately our kids are educated by advertising companies, who
bullsht them as far as they can, and schools dont seem to tackle it at
all. They then become adults that are so misinformed about money as to
be bordering on deluded, trained to give all their money away for junk
at any opportunity they can find.
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The government piles on
steadily more restrictions on what non-tradespeople are allowed to do.
steadily more restrictions on what non-tradespeople are allowed to do.
even when its known to increase the rate of deaths, accidents and
costs.
The basic problem is we live in an ignorant society. At least computers
are helping quite a bit with this.
NT
Jon D
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Fri Oct 28, 2005 6:50 am
On Fri 07 Oct 2005 18:11:54, Funfly3 wrote:
<news:u%x1f.2631$Vl6.23_at_newsfe1-gui.ntli.net>
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adding OT to the beginning of a post does not make it ok to post
in the wrong group ?????
in the wrong group ?????
Fucking twat
Guest
Fri Oct 28, 2005 7:57 am
In article <1130477903.943ab120f5d3544fc0c459771a33d0fb_at_bubbanews>,
jon_d_at_nomail.com says...
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On Fri 07 Oct 2005 18:11:54, Funfly3 wrote:
news:u%x1f.2631$Vl6.23_at_newsfe1-gui.ntli.net
adding OT to the beginning of a post does not make it ok to post
in the wrong group ?????
Fucking twat
Now that you've introduced yourself, what was the point you were trying
news:u%x1f.2631$Vl6.23_at_newsfe1-gui.ntli.net
adding OT to the beginning of a post does not make it ok to post
in the wrong group ?????
Fucking twat
Now that you've introduced yourself, what was the point you were trying
to make?
JRW
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Guest
Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:18 pm
On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 08:57:18 +0100 <spam-spam-spam_at_ntlworld.com> wrote in
Message id: <MPG.1dcbea2c343e0bf0989b44_at_news.individual.net>:
Quote:
In article <1130477903.943ab120f5d3544fc0c459771a33d0fb_at_bubbanews>,
jon_d_at_nomail.com says...
On Fri 07 Oct 2005 18:11:54, Funfly3 wrote:
news:u%x1f.2631$Vl6.23_at_newsfe1-gui.ntli.net
adding OT to the beginning of a post does not make it ok to post
in the wrong group ?????
Fucking twat
Now that you've introduced yourself, what was the point you were trying
to make?
jon_d_at_nomail.com says...
On Fri 07 Oct 2005 18:11:54, Funfly3 wrote:
news:u%x1f.2631$Vl6.23_at_newsfe1-gui.ntli.net
adding OT to the beginning of a post does not make it ok to post
in the wrong group ?????
Fucking twat
Now that you've introduced yourself, what was the point you were trying
to make?
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keith
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 3:27 am
On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 14:24:11 +0000, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Quote:
Paul Hyett wrote:
In uk.media.tv.misc on Sun, 9 Oct 2005, Michael A. Terrell wrote :
It's not a big deal anyway - it's not like we're still using 800 bit
modems, or 50mb HD's.
800 bit modem?
Well, I don't know what speed early modems operated at - I wasn't on-
line then!
--
Paul 'US Sitcom Fan' Hyett
First of all, the speed is specified in Bits Per Second, not bits.
In uk.media.tv.misc on Sun, 9 Oct 2005, Michael A. Terrell wrote :
It's not a big deal anyway - it's not like we're still using 800 bit
modems, or 50mb HD's.
800 bit modem?
Well, I don't know what speed early modems operated at - I wasn't on-
line then!
--
Paul 'US Sitcom Fan' Hyett
First of all, the speed is specified in Bits Per Second, not bits.
Correct, but baud <> bps.
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The width of the data is specified in Bits. 800 bits would make for a
very odd data buss.
^^^^
very odd data buss.
^^^^
s/buss/bus/. Buss is something you did with a pretty young girl in the
back seat of a car, many moons ago.
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Some of the more common speeds are:
75 baud
110 baud
75 baud
110 baud
You forgot 134.5 ;-)
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300 baud
1200 baud
2400 baud
4800 baud
9600 baud
14400 baud
28800 baud
33600 baud
57600 baud
1200 baud
2400 baud
4800 baud
9600 baud
14400 baud
28800 baud
33600 baud
57600 baud
No, those are bps numbers. Baud is signal transitions per second. Bits
per second is then the baud times the symbol size. 1200bps modems were
300baud, for example, with 4bit symbols. Older 9600bps modems were
commonly 1200baud with 8bit symbols.
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Even lower baud rates were used by current loop teletype machines.
I've never seen anything slower than 75 or 110 baud. The A/KSR33s were
110baud (10 cps).
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BTW, my first hard drive was a full height 5.25" 5 MB that sounded
like a vacuum cleaner when it was first powered up.
like a vacuum cleaner when it was first powered up.
Sucked, eh?
--
Keith
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