OT: Ghostscript, won't install

Poor Joerg, he was born with a silver *PHUT* in his mouth

"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon_at_On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
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Poor Joerg, he was born with a silver *PHUT* in his mouth :-)

It's forced him to become that much better of a designer/troubleshooter for
his customers' designs so that they don't get PHUT, then?

Jim Thompson wrote:
Poor Joerg, he was born with a silver *PHUT* in his mouth :-)

With properly created PDF's, Acrobat can add/change text as well as
add forms with nice colored frames to call attention. I do it all the
time.


True, but then Jorge had a depraved childhood. ;-)

"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon_at_On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote
in message news:0s12865qj3t2uom5g14k8th35cfkm0i5oi_at_4ax.com...
Poor Joerg, he was born with a silver *PHUT* in his mouth :-)

It's forced him to become that much better of a designer/troubleshooter
for his customers' designs so that they don't get PHUT, then? :-)

On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 12:19:41 -0700, Joerg <invalid_at_invalid.invalid
wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 08:01:38 -0700, Joerg <invalid_at_invalid.invalid
wrote:

Rich Webb wrote:
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 18:54:44 -0700, Joerg <invalid_at_invalid.invalid
wrote:

Joerg wrote:
Gents,

IC designers still seem to live in the Postscript world ... can't read
those dreaded files. Client said to install Ghostscript. So I downloaded
gs871w32.exe from U of Wisconsin.

No matter what I do, this here computation machine bucks and says "not a
valid Win32 application". Running XP. What gives? How can I dodge this
and make it install?

Guys, figured it out: I had to erase and download two more times, then
it stuck. It installed alright. Now I can see the files but it's nearly
not as good as PDF. Did I already say that I never liked Postscript?
It won't display as nicely with the Ghostscript viewer as one has come
to expect from pdf viewers. GSview is more of a preview app for page
layout and such, and doesn't do the rendering tricks with sub-pixel
anti-aliasing and gamma correction that pdf viewers pretty much all
handle nowadays. It expects that the .ps file will be sent onwards to a
high-resolution printer for final rendering.

Yeah, I know, PS is so yesterday. In fact it already was 20 years ago.
Back then I became so frustrated with it that I completely ditched it
and adopted HPGL. That is a much better rendering tool for CAD but
eventually fell from graces for whatever reason.


But, a Ghostscript installation does come with the necessary tools to
convert .ps to .pdf. There are probably wrappers that put ribbons and
bows on this, but all you should need to do is to copy the .ps file to
the directory in the GS install that has ps2pdf14.bat (probably the lib
directory) and run it from the command line against your .ps file. The
result should be a good looking .pdf file.

Thanks, I'll try that. Anything that gets me off of that dreaded PS
format is a good thing. Problem is, with this IC design I am going to
have a barrage of PS files coming at me over the next months. So I
better get some batch process going where I can send all that through a
wringer before I even look at them.

Looks like good old DOS batch file time again. Now that I am intimately
familiar with
Did you miss my comments about GhostView and GhostScript? Something
is amiss in how you're trying to install.

It didn't matter, you can install Ghostscript first. In fact, that's how
it was explained. Worked after downloading several times.


If your only issue is _receiving_ PS schematics, won't any of the PDF
rip-off's handle that? And generating PS is as trivial as installing
a printer driver, such as: Apple LaserWriter II NTX v51.8, then "Print
to File".

I certainly won't generate PS files. That format is IMHO the pits.
Almost nothing can read it anymore these days. HPGL was so much better
for schematics.

Please remember, HPGL was(is) (only) stroke graphics for pen plotters;
if you wanted text that was also stroke graphics going to the device.

Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
Poor Joerg, he was born with a silver *PHUT* in his mouth :-)

With properly created PDF's, Acrobat can add/change text as well as
add forms with nice colored frames to call attention. I do it all the
time.


True, but then Jorge had a depraved childhood. ;-)


Huh? Not at all. You tend to say things without knowing about them. I
had a great childhood and I am very grateful to my parents for that.

On Fri, 03 Sep 2010 10:22:56 -0700, Joerg <invalid_at_invalid.invalid
wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
Poor Joerg, he was born with a silver *PHUT* in his mouth :-)

With properly created PDF's, Acrobat can add/change text as well as
add forms with nice colored frames to call attention. I do it all the
time.

True, but then Jorge had a depraved childhood. ;-)

Huh? Not at all. You tend to say things without knowing about them. I
had a great childhood and I am very grateful to my parents for that.

Yep. Poor doesn't make you depraved. It does make you creative.

On Fri, 3 Sep 2010 10:15:44 -0700, "Joel Koltner"
zapwireDASHgroups_at_yahoo.com> wrote:

"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon_at_On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
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Poor Joerg, he was born with a silver *PHUT* in his mouth
It's forced him to become that much better of a designer/troubleshooter for
his customers' designs so that they don't get PHUT, then? :-)

Seems all his *PHUT-ing* is software related.

Never seen a person with so much install/crash/cockpit issues.

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Fri, 03 Sep 2010 10:22:56 -0700, Joerg <invalid_at_invalid.invalid
wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
Poor Joerg, he was born with a silver *PHUT* in his mouth :-)

With properly created PDF's, Acrobat can add/change text as well as
add forms with nice colored frames to call attention. I do it all the
time.

True, but then Jorge had a depraved childhood. ;-)

Huh? Not at all. You tend to say things without knowing about them. I
had a great childhood and I am very grateful to my parents for that.

Yep. Poor doesn't make you depraved. It does make you creative.


We weren't poor but my parents believed in the fact that spoiling kids
is not good (so do I).

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Fri, 3 Sep 2010 10:15:44 -0700, "Joel Koltner"
zapwireDASHgroups_at_yahoo.com> wrote:

"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon_at_On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
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Poor Joerg, he was born with a silver *PHUT* in his mouth
It's forced him to become that much better of a designer/troubleshooter for
his customers' designs so that they don't get PHUT, then? :-)

Seems all his *PHUT-ing* is software related.

Never seen a person with so much install/crash/cockpit issues.


Many? The only SW that crashes is Acrobat. Back when I was at EndoSonics
also the Windows-versions of Orcad. That's it. All the rest works with
cast-iron robustness.

On Fri, 03 Sep 2010 10:34:20 -0700, Joerg <invalid_at_invalid.invalid
wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Fri, 03 Sep 2010 10:22:56 -0700, Joerg <invalid_at_invalid.invalid
wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
Poor Joerg, he was born with a silver *PHUT* in his mouth :-)

With properly created PDF's, Acrobat can add/change text as well as
add forms with nice colored frames to call attention. I do it all the
time.
True, but then Jorge had a depraved childhood. ;-)

Huh? Not at all. You tend to say things without knowing about them. I
had a great childhood and I am very grateful to my parents for that.
Yep. Poor doesn't make you depraved. It does make you creative.

We weren't poor but my parents believed in the fact that spoiling kids
is not good (so do I).

My family wasn't poor-poor either, just typical Scot tight fisted.

On Fri, 03 Sep 2010 10:36:06 -0700, Joerg <invalid_at_invalid.invalid
wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Fri, 3 Sep 2010 10:15:44 -0700, "Joel Koltner"
zapwireDASHgroups_at_yahoo.com> wrote:

"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon_at_On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
message news:0s12865qj3t2uom5g14k8th35cfkm0i5oi_at_4ax.com...
Poor Joerg, he was born with a silver *PHUT* in his mouth
It's forced him to become that much better of a designer/troubleshooter for
his customers' designs so that they don't get PHUT, then?
Seems all his *PHUT-ing* is software related.

Never seen a person with so much install/crash/cockpit issues.

Many? The only SW that crashes is Acrobat. Back when I was at EndoSonics
also the Windows-versions of Orcad. That's it. All the rest works with
cast-iron robustness.

OrCAD I'll give you... it's junk.

I have not a bit of trouble with Acrobat, other than later versions
have too many "features"... drop down menus drive me nuts ;-)

I have versions 4, 5 & 7 co-resident without issues.

I use whatever version suits the "feature" I want to use, primarily
v4, but I use v7 a lot for annotations.

But then I usually "Save As" in v4 (compatibility) so everyone can
read it.

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 14:46:00 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net> wrote:

Joerg wrote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 13:44:16 -0700, Joerg ?invalid_at_invalid.invalid?
wrote:

[snip]
?
?It would be very simple if many of the popular tools could at least
?import it. But PS must have fallen from grace, almost none do. However,
?Jim said Paint Shop does and that may be the ticket here because I am
?sure it has a more professional frontend than what I've got now.

PS hasn't fallen from grace... it's very much alive in the fancy
graphical and printing worlds.

Jeorge just doesn't want to take the time to lern how to use it.

Why learn how to drive and maintain a Stanley Steamer when you can buy a
nice gasoline-engine car everywhere?

You seem to be the only one around here with problems with PS. That
doesn't make PS the problem.


Nope, not the only one. Actually, at one client an engineer calls PS
"piece of s..t". He became a lot more fed up with it than I did.


Joerg seems to have problems with just about every software there is.

Maybe he has trouble with RTFM :-)

I also think he needs to run a reputable clean-up tool on his system.
He claims crashes on products I've never had issues with. I think
he's drifted off into DLL-conflict land, due to going "cheap".

Maybe he also needs to read-up on "compatibility" set-ups.


Again, it's only Acrobat that crashes all the time. Now how do you
explain that all other programs including some with a whole lot more
complexity never crash on this here computation machine?

Also, it's machine independent. On the other PCs Acrobat crashes all the
time and nothing else does. Same at clients. To me it is rather clear
what that means.

On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 16:48:58 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

That their IT department is incompetent?

IT == Ignorant Twat
^^^^ Twit (the other refers to something i really

On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 15:44:39 -0700, Joerg <invalid_at_invalid.invalid
wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 12:51:55 -0700, Joerg <invalid_at_invalid.invalid
wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 14:46:00 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net> wrote:

Joerg wrote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 13:44:16 -0700, Joerg ?invalid_at_invalid.invalid?
wrote:

[snip]
?
?It would be very simple if many of the popular tools could at least
?import it. But PS must have fallen from grace, almost none do. However,
?Jim said Paint Shop does and that may be the ticket here because I am
?sure it has a more professional frontend than what I've got now.

PS hasn't fallen from grace... it's very much alive in the fancy
graphical and printing worlds.
Jeorge just doesn't want to take the time to lern how to use it.

Why learn how to drive and maintain a Stanley Steamer when you can buy a
nice gasoline-engine car everywhere?
You seem to be the only one around here with problems with PS. That
doesn't make PS the problem.
Nope, not the only one. Actually, at one client an engineer calls PS
"piece of s..t". He became a lot more fed up with it than I did.


Joerg seems to have problems with just about every software there is.

Maybe he has trouble with RTFM :-)

I also think he needs to run a reputable clean-up tool on his system.
He claims crashes on products I've never had issues with. I think
he's drifted off into DLL-conflict land, due to going "cheap".

Maybe he also needs to read-up on "compatibility" set-ups.

Again, it's only Acrobat that crashes all the time. Now how do you
explain that all other programs including some with a whole lot more
complexity never crash on this here computation machine?

Also, it's machine independent. On the other PCs Acrobat crashes all the
time and nothing else does. Same at clients. To me it is rather clear
what that means.

"Rather clear" is a sample-of-one


Nope, engineers at clients told me the same thing. It's like with Orcad
where some folks said "Yeah, don't give any software to Joerg" and then,
later ... "Dang! It also crashes on me all the time". Well, I fixed that
problem by pulling the plug :-)

OK. Let's take a vote. How many people can replicate Joerg's crashes
?

...Jim Thompson