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Sylvia Else
Guest

Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:30 am   



While some of my neighbours foolishly turn their lights out and ignite
candles (which produce more CO2 than the lights they replace), I might
just disconnect myself from the grid for an hour, and fire up my petrol
generator instead.

Sylvia.

Rheilly Phoull
Guest

Sat Mar 29, 2014 3:17 pm   



On 29/03/14 13:08, Sylvia Else wrote:
Quote:
While some of my neighbours foolishly turn their lights out and ignite
candles (which produce more CO2 than the lights they replace), I might
just disconnect myself from the grid for an hour, and fire up my petrol
generator instead.

Sylvia.


Meh!

If you want to feel good, have a glass of wine, should have the same
effect Smile

Je▀us
Guest

Sun Mar 30, 2014 6:44 am   



On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 16:08:22 +1100, Sylvia Else
<sylvia_at_not.at.this.address> wrote:

Quote:
While some of my neighbours foolishly turn their lights out and ignite
candles (which produce more CO2 than the lights they replace), I might
just disconnect myself from the grid for an hour, and fire up my petrol
generator instead.


'Earth Hour' eh? What PC faggot came up with that pointless concept?

F Murtz
Guest

Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:30 am   



Je▀us wrote:
Quote:
On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 16:08:22 +1100, Sylvia Else
sylvia_at_not.at.this.address> wrote:

While some of my neighbours foolishly turn their lights out and ignite
candles (which produce more CO2 than the lights they replace), I might
just disconnect myself from the grid for an hour, and fire up my petrol
generator instead.

'Earth Hour' eh? What PC faggot came up with that pointless concept?

It came and went without me realizing it.


Sylvia Else
Guest

Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:30 am   



On 30/03/2014 3:50 PM, Trevor wrote:
Quote:
"Sylvia Else" <sylvia_at_not.at.this.address> wrote in message
news:bpn2q6Fse7U1_at_mid.individual.net...
While some of my neighbours foolishly turn their lights out and ignite
candles (which produce more CO2 than the lights they replace), I might
just disconnect myself from the grid for an hour, and fire up my petrol
generator instead.

And you can save a fortune by disconnecting from the grid completely. It now
costs me as much for "supply charge" as it does for the electricity I use
thanks to the power companies clever way to recoup some of the money lost to
those with solar panels.
58% increase this year alone! Strangely there has been hardly a murmur
though Sad
Thinking a gas generator may be the answer, I'd only pay one supply charge
then, and the excess heat could warm the house in winter.

Trevor.


It's a nice idea, but I'd be surprised if you could actually save money
that way, once you take into account the cost of the capital involved,
depreciation, and such regular (and other) maintenance as is required.

Even getting the generator to run efficiently is a challenge when you
have the kind of varying load represented by a house.

Sylvia.

F Murtz
Guest

Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:30 am   



Clocky wrote:
Quote:
On 30/03/2014 8:44 AM, Je▀us wrote:
On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 16:08:22 +1100, Sylvia Else
sylvia_at_not.at.this.address> wrote:

While some of my neighbours foolishly turn their lights out and ignite
candles (which produce more CO2 than the lights they replace), I might
just disconnect myself from the grid for an hour, and fire up my petrol
generator instead.

'Earth Hour' eh? What PC faggot came up with that pointless concept?


Raising awareness isn't pointless in itself, but it's self-defeating if
it makes those taking part think they have done their bit for the year
by turning off a few lights for an hour.

And there will be plenty of the twitbook generation that will think
exactly that, the fucking numpties that they are.




The whole idiot affair would cost more both ecologically and financially
than had it not existed.

Dechucka
Guest

Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:30 am   



"Je▀us" <none_at_all.org> wrote in message
news:15qej9hia9kd7o5lkcnteo1o8h7ne6ml1s_at_4ax.com...
Quote:
On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 16:08:22 +1100, Sylvia Else
sylvia_at_not.at.this.address> wrote:

While some of my neighbours foolishly turn their lights out and ignite
candles (which produce more CO2 than the lights they replace), I might
just disconnect myself from the grid for an hour, and fire up my petrol
generator instead.

'Earth Hour' eh? What PC faggot came up with that pointless concept?


Google is your friend http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Hour

Clocky
Guest

Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:30 am   



On 30/03/2014 8:44 AM, Je▀us wrote:
Quote:
On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 16:08:22 +1100, Sylvia Else
sylvia_at_not.at.this.address> wrote:

While some of my neighbours foolishly turn their lights out and ignite
candles (which produce more CO2 than the lights they replace), I might
just disconnect myself from the grid for an hour, and fire up my petrol
generator instead.

'Earth Hour' eh? What PC faggot came up with that pointless concept?


Raising awareness isn't pointless in itself, but it's self-defeating if
it makes those taking part think they have done their bit for the year
by turning off a few lights for an hour.

And there will be plenty of the twitbook generation that will think
exactly that, the fucking numpties that they are.

Trevor
Guest

Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:30 am   



"F Murtz" <haggisz_at_hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:53377263$0$33504$c3e8da3$9deca2c3_at_news.astraweb.com...
Quote:
'Earth Hour' eh? What PC faggot came up with that pointless concept?

It came and went without me realizing it.


You mean it's been and gone. When was it?

Trevor.

Trevor
Guest

Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:30 am   



"Dechucka" <Dechucka_1_at_hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:SuidnUowRK20HKrOnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d_at_westnet.com.au...
Quote:
'Earth Hour' eh? What PC faggot came up with that pointless concept?

Google is your friend http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Hour


Assumes he really cares enough to bother. I sure don't.

Trevor.

Dechucka
Guest

Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:30 am   



"F Murtz" <haggisz_at_hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:53377263$0$33504$c3e8da3$9deca2c3_at_news.astraweb.com...
Quote:
Je▀us wrote:
On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 16:08:22 +1100, Sylvia Else
sylvia_at_not.at.this.address> wrote:

While some of my neighbours foolishly turn their lights out and ignite
candles (which produce more CO2 than the lights they replace), I might
just disconnect myself from the grid for an hour, and fire up my petrol
generator instead.

'Earth Hour' eh? What PC faggot came up with that pointless concept?

It came and went without me realizing it.


You realize now that all these morons have posted about it don't you

Trevor
Guest

Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:30 am   



"Sylvia Else" <sylvia_at_not.at.this.address> wrote in message
news:bpn2q6Fse7U1_at_mid.individual.net...
Quote:
While some of my neighbours foolishly turn their lights out and ignite
candles (which produce more CO2 than the lights they replace), I might
just disconnect myself from the grid for an hour, and fire up my petrol
generator instead.


And you can save a fortune by disconnecting from the grid completely. It now
costs me as much for "supply charge" as it does for the electricity I use
thanks to the power companies clever way to recoup some of the money lost to
those with solar panels.
58% increase this year alone! Strangely there has been hardly a murmur
though Sad
Thinking a gas generator may be the answer, I'd only pay one supply charge
then, and the excess heat could warm the house in winter.

Trevor.

Dechucka
Guest

Mon Mar 31, 2014 1:31 am   



"Trevor" <trevor_at_home.net> wrote in message
news:lh88j9$ig3$1_at_speranza.aioe.org...
Quote:

"Dechucka" <Dechucka_1_at_hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:SuidnUowRK20HKrOnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d_at_westnet.com.au...
'Earth Hour' eh? What PC faggot came up with that pointless concept?

Google is your friend http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Hour

Assumes he really cares enough to bother. I sure don't.


Bothered enough to post about it

Dechucka
Guest

Mon Mar 31, 2014 1:34 am   



"Sylvia Else" <sylvia_at_not.at.this.address> wrote in message
news:bppoo7Fi42gU1_at_mid.individual.net...
Quote:
On 30/03/2014 3:50 PM, Trevor wrote:
"Sylvia Else" <sylvia_at_not.at.this.address> wrote in message
news:bpn2q6Fse7U1_at_mid.individual.net...
While some of my neighbours foolishly turn their lights out and ignite
candles (which produce more CO2 than the lights they replace), I might
just disconnect myself from the grid for an hour, and fire up my petrol
generator instead.

And you can save a fortune by disconnecting from the grid completely. It
now
costs me as much for "supply charge" as it does for the electricity I use
thanks to the power companies clever way to recoup some of the money lost
to
those with solar panels.
58% increase this year alone! Strangely there has been hardly a murmur
though Sad
Thinking a gas generator may be the answer, I'd only pay one supply
charge
then, and the excess heat could warm the house in winter.

Trevor.

It's a nice idea, but I'd be surprised if you could actually save money
that way, once you take into account the cost of the capital involved,
depreciation, and such regular (and other) maintenance as is required.

Even getting the generator to run efficiently is a challenge when you have
the kind of varying load represented by a house.


You don't use the generator to directly power the house but rather to
generate electricity to store if you use it as a long term system long term.

news13
Guest

Mon Mar 31, 2014 4:10 am   



On Mon, 31 Mar 2014 10:51:01 +1100, Sylvia Else wrote:

Quote:
On 31/03/2014 6:34 AM, Dechucka wrote:

"Sylvia Else" <sylvia_at_not.at.this.address> wrote in message

Even getting the generator to run efficiently is a challenge when you
have the kind of varying load represented by a house.

You don't use the generator to directly power the house but rather to
generate electricity to store if you use it as a long term system long
term.

That addresses the efficiency issue, but at the very non-trivial cost of
needing substantial storage capacity.


To date, the mains has (mostly*some sites) always been cheaper, but
increasingly there are brackets where it isn't.

There is also the reliability issue, resultant losses and recovery
ability.

Due to the "RV" market, you can get into small storage systems cheaply
before moving onto the higher investment.

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