OT: Didn't Receive item from Ebay Seller in Hong Kong

The seller become unregistered while I was waiting for my $40.00 item
from Hong Kong!
wtf?
I wrote to Ebay 'If I hire someone to get my money back, how much will
it cost?'

Ebay did't address my question but instead wrote to the effect:
'45 days have past! Too bad sucker! It's up to you to waste your time
complaining to other people (US mail, consumer groups) not us.'

Patience is not a virtue in this case.
Hopefully I fed some needy family in Hong Kong instead of gangsters.

--
D from BC
British Columbia
They're an effin waste of space, always hiding behind their 'privacy policy'

The seller become unregistered while I was waiting for my $40.00 item
from Hong Kong!
wtf?
I wrote to Ebay 'If I hire someone to get my money back, how much will
it cost?'

Ebay did't address my question but instead wrote to the effect:
'45 days have past! Too bad sucker! It's up to you to waste your time
complaining to other people (US mail, consumer groups) not us.'

Patience is not a virtue in this case.
Hopefully I fed some needy family in Hong Kong instead of gangsters.

On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 14:19:13 -0800, D from BC <myrealaddress_at_comic.com
wrote:

[snip]

Patience is not a virtue in this case.
Hopefully I fed some needy family in Hong Kong instead of gangsters.

WEll, waiting 45 days does seem a bit long. I'd have been after them
in 21 days max.

You did pay by credit card through PayPal, right? Do a chargeback and
move on.

The seller become unregistered while I was waiting for my $40.00 item
from Hong Kong!
wtf?
I wrote to Ebay 'If I hire someone to get my money back, how much will
it cost?'

Ebay did't address my question but instead wrote to the effect:
'45 days have past! Too bad sucker! It's up to you to waste your time
complaining to other people (US mail, consumer groups) not us.'

Patience is not a virtue in this case.
Hopefully I fed some needy family in Hong Kong instead of gangsters.

"D from BC" <myrealaddress_at_comic.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.25f9d1b8c5820af59896b6_at_209.197.12.12...
The seller become unregistered while I was waiting for my $40.00 item
from Hong Kong!
wtf?
I wrote to Ebay 'If I hire someone to get my money back, how much will
it cost?'

Ebay did't address my question but instead wrote to the effect:
'45 days have past! Too bad sucker! It's up to you to waste your time
complaining to other people (US mail, consumer groups) not us.'

Patience is not a virtue in this case.
Hopefully I fed some needy family in Hong Kong instead of gangsters.

--
D from BC
British Columbia
They're an effin waste of space, always hiding behind their 'privacy policy'
Any chance of Paypal clawback? (assuming you paid by paypal)
They are quite in favour of buyers and 99% against sellers.... FWIW.
Saves them losing money
Good luck...

In article <2vWjn.201627$4D2.83047_at_newsfe12.ams2>,
someone.pc_at_ntlworld.com says...

"D from BC" <myrealaddress_at_comic.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.25f9d1b8c5820af59896b6_at_209.197.12.12...
The seller become unregistered while I was waiting for my $40.00 item
from Hong Kong!
wtf?
I wrote to Ebay 'If I hire someone to get my money back, how much will
it cost?'

Ebay did't address my question but instead wrote to the effect:
'45 days have past! Too bad sucker! It's up to you to waste your time
complaining to other people (US mail, consumer groups) not us.'

Patience is not a virtue in this case.
Hopefully I fed some needy family in Hong Kong instead of gangsters.

--
D from BC
British Columbia
They're an effin waste of space, always hiding behind their 'privacy policy'
Any chance of Paypal clawback? (assuming you paid by paypal)
They are quite in favour of buyers and 99% against sellers.... FWIW.
Saves them losing money
Good luck...


Here's what the subsidiary of Ebay (Paypal) produces automatically on
there web site:

"We Have Registered Your Dispute

Thank you for registering your complaint about this transaction.
Unfortunately, this type of transaction is not eligible for PayPal
dispute resolution. We encourage you to continue to work directly with
your seller, as we have found that many misunderstandings reach amicable
solutions through communication."

The above wordiness is annoying..
Translating the above =
'Ha gotcha!. We gave you your 45 day chance and you blew it fool. Paypal
is not going to help you. Go chase after the seller in Hong Kong
sucker.'

Cut from Paypal site buyer protection eligibility section:
?Open a Dispute within 45 days of the date you sent the payment ? then
follow the online dispute resolution process described below under
Dispute Resolution.'

If only nasty Hong Kong thugs were for rent on Ebay.

On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 14:19:13 -0800, D from BC <myrealaddress_at_comic.com
wrote:

The seller become unregistered while I was waiting for my $40.00 item
from Hong Kong!
wtf?
I wrote to Ebay 'If I hire someone to get my money back, how much will
it cost?'

Ebay did't address my question but instead wrote to the effect:
'45 days have past! Too bad sucker! It's up to you to waste your time
complaining to other people (US mail, consumer groups) not us.'

Patience is not a virtue in this case.
Hopefully I fed some needy family in Hong Kong instead of gangsters.

WEll, waiting 45 days does seem a bit long. I'd have been after them
in 21 days max.

You did pay by credit card through PayPal, right? Do a chargeback and
move on.

On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 14:19:13 -0800, D from BC <myrealaddress_at_comic.com
wrote:

The seller become unregistered while I was waiting for my $40.00 item
from Hong Kong!
wtf?
I wrote to Ebay 'If I hire someone to get my money back, how much will
it cost?'

Ebay did't address my question but instead wrote to the effect:
'45 days have past! Too bad sucker! It's up to you to waste your time
complaining to other people (US mail, consumer groups) not us.'

Patience is not a virtue in this case.
Hopefully I fed some needy family in Hong Kong instead of gangsters.


You're an idiot. I told another person this when he thought he was
going to get a nice, cheaply priced high end video card.

You are essentially screwed ANY time you do not use pay pal.

Waiting too long does essentially make you culpable in the crime of
utter stupidity... again.

On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 21:34:21 -0800, D from BC <myrealaddress_at_comic.com
wrote:

In article <2vWjn.201627$4D2.83047_at_newsfe12.ams2>,
someone.pc_at_ntlworld.com says...

"D from BC" <myrealaddress_at_comic.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.25f9d1b8c5820af59896b6_at_209.197.12.12...
The seller become unregistered while I was waiting for my $40.00 item
from Hong Kong!
wtf?
I wrote to Ebay 'If I hire someone to get my money back, how much will
it cost?'

Ebay did't address my question but instead wrote to the effect:
'45 days have past! Too bad sucker! It's up to you to waste your time
complaining to other people (US mail, consumer groups) not us.'

Patience is not a virtue in this case.
Hopefully I fed some needy family in Hong Kong instead of gangsters.

--
D from BC
British Columbia
They're an effin waste of space, always hiding behind their 'privacy policy'
Any chance of Paypal clawback? (assuming you paid by paypal)
They are quite in favour of buyers and 99% against sellers.... FWIW.
Saves them losing money
Good luck...


Here's what the subsidiary of Ebay (Paypal) produces automatically on
there web site:

"We Have Registered Your Dispute

Thank you for registering your complaint about this transaction.
Unfortunately, this type of transaction is not eligible for PayPal
dispute resolution. We encourage you to continue to work directly with
your seller, as we have found that many misunderstandings reach amicable
solutions through communication."

The above wordiness is annoying..
Translating the above =
'Ha gotcha!. We gave you your 45 day chance and you blew it fool. Paypal
is not going to help you. Go chase after the seller in Hong Kong
sucker.'

Cut from Paypal site buyer protection eligibility section:

On Mar 4, 2:19 pm, D from BC <myrealaddr...@comic.com> wrote:
The seller become unregistered while I was waiting for my $40.00 item
from Hong Kong!
wtf?
I wrote to Ebay 'If I hire someone to get my money back, how much will
it cost?'

Ebay did't address my question but instead wrote to the effect:
'45 days have past! Too bad sucker! It's up to you to waste your time
complaining to other people (US mail, consumer groups) not us.'

Patience is not a virtue in this case.
Hopefully I fed some needy family in Hong Kong instead of gangsters.

--
D from BC
British Columbia

Did the seller have any feedback? It might be useful to mention the
item since they will probably reregister and scam again.

The seller become unregistered while I was waiting for my $40.00 item
from Hong Kong!
wtf?
I wrote to Ebay 'If I hire someone to get my money back, how much will
it cost?'

Ebay did't address my question but instead wrote to the effect:
'45 days have past! Too bad sucker! It's up to you to waste your time
complaining to other people (US mail, consumer groups) not us.'

Patience is not a virtue in this case.
Hopefully I fed some needy family in Hong Kong instead of gangsters.

--
D from BC
British Columbia

Ebay did't address my question but instead wrote to the effect:
'45 days have past! Too bad sucker! It's up to you to waste your time
complaining to other people (US mail, consumer groups) not us.'

Patience is not a virtue in this case.
Hopefully I fed some needy family in Hong Kong instead of gangsters.

--
D from BC
British Columbia

Did the seller have any feedback? It might be useful to mention the
item since they will probably reregister and scam again.

Seller had:
98.8% feedback.
Over 2000 sells.

Ebay's email and Paypal's resolution web programming produced no
feedback about red flagging the seller.
Maybe they do red flag the seller but they didn't say.

Shit happens, move on and learn. Pay by CC- paypal-ebay next time you do a

In article <rb61p5lmr18fq6ocbktl873qtv7to57fg0_at_4ax.com>,
Dorothy_at_notinkansas.org says...
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 21:34:21 -0800, D from BC <myrealaddress_at_comic.com
wrote:

In article <2vWjn.201627$4D2.83047_at_newsfe12.ams2>,
someone.pc_at_ntlworld.com says...
"D from BC" <myrealaddress_at_comic.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.25f9d1b8c5820af59896b6_at_209.197.12.12...
The seller become unregistered while I was waiting for my $40.00 item
from Hong Kong!
wtf?
I wrote to Ebay 'If I hire someone to get my money back, how much will
it cost?'

Ebay did't address my question but instead wrote to the effect:
'45 days have past! Too bad sucker! It's up to you to waste your time
complaining to other people (US mail, consumer groups) not us.'

Patience is not a virtue in this case.
Hopefully I fed some needy family in Hong Kong instead of gangsters.

--
D from BC
British Columbia
They're an effin waste of space, always hiding behind their 'privacy policy'
Any chance of Paypal clawback? (assuming you paid by paypal)
They are quite in favour of buyers and 99% against sellers.... FWIW.
Saves them losing money
Good luck...

Here's what the subsidiary of Ebay (Paypal) produces automatically on
there web site:

"We Have Registered Your Dispute

Thank you for registering your complaint about this transaction.
Unfortunately, this type of transaction is not eligible for PayPal
dispute resolution. We encourage you to continue to work directly with
your seller, as we have found that many misunderstandings reach amicable
solutions through communication."

The above wordiness is annoying..
Translating the above =
'Ha gotcha!. We gave you your 45 day chance and you blew it fool. Paypal
is not going to help you. Go chase after the seller in Hong Kong
sucker.'

Cut from Paypal site buyer protection eligibility section:

I'd like to dispute the dispute time.
It's interesting that my sense something is wrong kicked in not far
beyond 45 days. Maybe that's me or maybe I'm not alone.
Businesses sometimes apply rules based on psychological studies to
reduce losses.

I suspect 45 days is a clever number. Why 45 days? It's by design for
Paypal to get off the hook.

What if hundreds of people get burned after 45 days?
What if thousands of people get burned after 45 days?
The answers to those questions will be very difficult to know and Ebay
will probably not make that information public.

Is 45 days enough?

In article <jc21p5lt4svqh694f5jk5jafp17dqmdb2u_at_4ax.com>,
LeonardooftheLarcenousLaugh_at_thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org says...

On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 14:19:13 -0800, D from BC <myrealaddress_at_comic.com
wrote:

The seller become unregistered while I was waiting for my $40.00 item
from Hong Kong!
wtf?
I wrote to Ebay 'If I hire someone to get my money back, how much will
it cost?'

Ebay did't address my question but instead wrote to the effect:
'45 days have past! Too bad sucker! It's up to you to waste your time
complaining to other people (US mail, consumer groups) not us.'

Patience is not a virtue in this case.
Hopefully I fed some needy family in Hong Kong instead of gangsters.


You're an idiot. I told another person this when he thought he was
going to get a nice, cheaply priced high end video card.

You are essentially screwed ANY time you do not use pay pal.

Waiting too long does essentially make you culpable in the crime of
utter stupidity... again.


Yup.. Waited too long after paying with paypal..
I wasn't aware of a 45 day countdown.
(Roads have better warnings such as speed signs.)
Ebay is bid bid bid bid before it's too late.
Never
You now have 45 days to make a dispute..
You now have 44 days to make a dispute..
You now have 43 days to make a dispute..
Does Ebay make it clear like that?.. Nope..Not that I've noticed.
It's not in Ebay's best interest to make users aware, only to make
money.
The burden is put upon the buyer to read Ebay and Paypal policies or
fuck up and then to read and study Ebay and Paypal policies. :(

Now that I've wasted time putting myself through Paypal policy school,
I'm now all prepared to prevent getting screwed the next time.