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David L. Jones
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Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:01 am
Zazzle have just pulled all my Flux Capacitor blog mechandise from sale due
to Copyright infringement!
This is a T-Shirt I completely hand drew myself!
Here is my artwork:
http://www.eevblog.com/images/DaveFluxCapacitor.jpg
Here is the traditional image everyone rips off from a bit of promo merch
from the movie:
http://www.zazzle.com/flux_capacitor_tshirt-235779835903386546
There are still two differnt sellers on Zazzle with these type shirts.
So if I've got this straight, my original sylised and modified hand drawing
of a hand drawing from a scrap of paper from a scene in a movie is somehow
classed as infringing on someones copyright?
What's the world coming too?
Dave.
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Phil Hobbs
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Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:09 am
On 2/5/2010 5:01 PM, David L. Jones wrote:
Quote:
Zazzle have just pulled all my Flux Capacitor blog mechandise from sale due
to Copyright infringement!
This is a T-Shirt I completely hand drew myself!
Here is my artwork:
http://www.eevblog.com/images/DaveFluxCapacitor.jpg
Here is the traditional image everyone rips off from a bit of promo merch
from the movie:
http://www.zazzle.com/flux_capacitor_tshirt-235779835903386546
There are still two differnt sellers on Zazzle with these type shirts.
So if I've got this straight, my original sylised and modified hand drawing
of a hand drawing from a scrap of paper from a scene in a movie is somehow
classed as infringing on someones copyright?
What's the world coming too?
Dave.
Payback from the War guys, maybe?
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
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Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal
ElectroOptical Innovations
55 Orchard Rd
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510
845-480-2058
hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net
David L. Jones
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Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:30 am
Phil Hobbs wrote:
Quote:
On 2/5/2010 5:01 PM, David L. Jones wrote:
Zazzle have just pulled all my Flux Capacitor blog mechandise from
sale due to Copyright infringement!
This is a T-Shirt I completely hand drew myself!
Here is my artwork:
http://www.eevblog.com/images/DaveFluxCapacitor.jpg
Here is the traditional image everyone rips off from a bit of promo
merch from the movie:
http://www.zazzle.com/flux_capacitor_tshirt-235779835903386546
There are still two differnt sellers on Zazzle with these type
shirts. So if I've got this straight, my original sylised and modified
hand
drawing of a hand drawing from a scrap of paper from a scene in a
movie is somehow classed as infringing on someones copyright?
What's the world coming too?
Dave.
Payback from the War guys, maybe?
The thought had crossed my mind!
Dave.
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David L. Jones
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Sat Feb 06, 2010 1:25 am
David L. Jones wrote:
Quote:
Zazzle have just pulled all my Flux Capacitor blog mechandise from
sale due to Copyright infringement!
This is a T-Shirt I completely hand drew myself!
Here is my artwork:
http://www.eevblog.com/images/DaveFluxCapacitor.jpg
Here is the traditional image everyone rips off from a bit of promo
merch from the movie:
http://www.zazzle.com/flux_capacitor_tshirt-235779835903386546
There are still two differnt sellers on Zazzle with these type shirts.
So if I've got this straight, my original sylised and modified hand
drawing of a hand drawing from a scrap of paper from a scene in a
movie is somehow classed as infringing on someones copyright?
What's the world coming too?
Dave.
The reply from Zazzle:
Quote:
"Your product was removed because it contained an image and/or design that
infringes on the intellectual property rights of NBC Universal and Universal
Pictures. More specifically, Back to the Future.
We have been contacted by Legal representatives of NBC Universal and
Universal Pictures and at their request your product has been removed from
Zazzle Marketplace.
While there may still be products of similar designs currently live on
Zazzle Marketplace, we are currently in the process of removing these
products."
Oh FFS!
Dave.
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Paul E. Schoen
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Sat Feb 06, 2010 1:26 am
"David L. Jones" <altzone_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
news:D_0bn.151541$uH1.3918_at_newsfe25.iad...
Quote:
Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2/5/2010 5:01 PM, David L. Jones wrote:
Zazzle have just pulled all my Flux Capacitor blog mechandise from
sale due to Copyright infringement!
This is a T-Shirt I completely hand drew myself!
Here is my artwork:
http://www.eevblog.com/images/DaveFluxCapacitor.jpg
Here is the traditional image everyone rips off from a bit of promo
merch from the movie:
http://www.zazzle.com/flux_capacitor_tshirt-235779835903386546
There are still two differnt sellers on Zazzle with these type
shirts. So if I've got this straight, my original sylised and modified
hand
drawing of a hand drawing from a scrap of paper from a scene in a
movie is somehow classed as infringing on someones copyright?
What's the world coming too?
Dave.
Payback from the War guys, maybe?
The thought had crossed my mind!
I did see a button on the Zazzle site where one can report a "violation",
and it is likely that someone did that in spite or for retaliation. I read
the User Agreement and it is very broad in its definition of copyright so
they probably figured "better safe than sorry" and just pulled the ad to
avoid possible legal hassles. The BTTF guys probably had nothing to do with
it.
http://www.zazzle.com/mk/policy/user_agreement
Your design is definitely different but it has some key features that make
it instantly recognizable as a derivation from the original. Perhaps if it
were turned upside down? The equations appear to be different, and yours
does not actually have "Flux Capacitor" written. It's a really fine and
fuzzy line that someone claims you have crossed, and I think your claim
would stand up in court, although in a jury trial who knows what your
"peers" may think after being brainwashed by a skillful attorney.
Good luck,
Paul
Guest
Sat Feb 06, 2010 3:13 am
On Feb 5, 5:01 pm, "David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
Zazzle have just pulled all my Flux Capacitor blog mechandise from sale due
to Copyright infringement!
This is a T-Shirt I completely hand drew myself!
Here is my artwork:http://www.eevblog.com/images/DaveFluxCapacitor.jpg
Here is the traditional image everyone rips off from a bit of promo merch
from the movie:http://www.zazzle.com/flux_capacitor_tshirt-235779835903386546
There are still two differnt sellers on Zazzle with these type shirts.
So if I've got this straight, my original sylised and modified hand drawing
of a hand drawing from a scrap of paper from a scene in a movie is somehow
classed as infringing on someones copyright?
What's the world coming too?
Dave.
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Check out my Electronics Engineering Video Blog & Podcast:http://www.eevblog.com
Draw an equivalent delta network with flux inductors.
Sylvia Else
Guest
Sat Feb 06, 2010 3:53 am
On 6/02/2010 11:13 AM, a7yvm109gf5d1_at_netzero.com wrote:
Quote:
On Feb 5, 5:01 pm, "David L. Jones"<altz...@gmail.com> wrote:
Zazzle have just pulled all my Flux Capacitor blog mechandise from sale due
to Copyright infringement!
This is a T-Shirt I completely hand drew myself!
Here is my artwork:http://www.eevblog.com/images/DaveFluxCapacitor.jpg
Here is the traditional image everyone rips off from a bit of promo merch
from the movie:http://www.zazzle.com/flux_capacitor_tshirt-235779835903386546
There are still two differnt sellers on Zazzle with these type shirts.
So if I've got this straight, my original sylised and modified hand drawing
of a hand drawing from a scrap of paper from a scene in a movie is somehow
classed as infringing on someones copyright?
What's the world coming too?
Dave.
--
---------------------------------------------
Check out my Electronics Engineering Video Blog& Podcast:http://www.eevblog.com
Draw an equivalent delta network with flux inductors.
Perhaps.
But his problem isn't really that his T-shirt violates someone's
intellectual property rights, it's that Zazzle are intimidated by the
studio's legal department. Any design that the studio doesn't like is
going to be taken off Zazzle on the same basis, whether or not it
actually infringes anyone's rights.
Sylvia.
Mark Harriss
Guest
Sat Feb 06, 2010 5:12 am
David L. Jones wrote:
Quote:
Zazzle have just pulled all my Flux Capacitor blog mechandise from sale due
to Copyright infringement!
This is a T-Shirt I completely hand drew myself!
Here is my artwork:
http://www.eevblog.com/images/DaveFluxCapacitor.jpg
Here is the traditional image everyone rips off from a bit of promo merch
from the movie:
http://www.zazzle.com/flux_capacitor_tshirt-235779835903386546
There are still two differnt sellers on Zazzle with these type shirts.
So if I've got this straight, my original sylised and modified hand drawing
of a hand drawing from a scrap of paper from a scene in a movie is somehow
classed as infringing on someones copyright?
What's the world coming too?
Dave.
I dunno why you muck around with that analogue flux crap, where's your
digital solution?. Anyway isn't there a fair use clause?, not to mention
if it's used for parody they can't do a thing.
atec 77
Guest
Sat Feb 06, 2010 5:31 am
David L. Jones wrote:
Quote:
if you seriously want to still list it then link to a Russian site
with the image hosted there ..
There will be threats BUT because it is an intangible actually stopping
you if determined is impossible ( I suspect it's a "get at")
Phil Hobbs
Guest
Sat Feb 06, 2010 5:39 am
On 2/5/2010 10:12 PM, Mark Harriss wrote:
Quote:
David L. Jones wrote:
Zazzle have just pulled all my Flux Capacitor blog mechandise from
sale due to Copyright infringement!
This is a T-Shirt I completely hand drew myself!
Here is my artwork:
http://www.eevblog.com/images/DaveFluxCapacitor.jpg
Here is the traditional image everyone rips off from a bit of promo
merch from the movie:
http://www.zazzle.com/flux_capacitor_tshirt-235779835903386546
There are still two differnt sellers on Zazzle with these type shirts.
So if I've got this straight, my original sylised and modified hand
drawing of a hand drawing from a scrap of paper from a scene in a
movie is somehow classed as infringing on someones copyright?
What's the world coming too?
Dave.
I dunno why you muck around with that analogue flux crap, where's your
digital solution?. Anyway isn't there a fair use clause?, not to mention
if it's used for parody they can't do a thing.
What about a FluxPIC? With the time travel synchronized with the clock,
you could get infinite speed!
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal
ElectroOptical Innovations
55 Orchard Rd
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510
845-480-2058
hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net
Mark Harriss
Guest
Sat Feb 06, 2010 5:52 am
Phil Hobbs wrote:
Quote:
What about a FluxPIC? With the time travel synchronized with the clock,
you could get infinite speed!
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
True, or even...dare I say it, an Arduino, as they seem to used for
everything.
Trevor Wilson
Guest
Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:56 am
David L. Jones wrote:
Quote:
Zazzle have just pulled all my Flux Capacitor blog mechandise from
sale due to Copyright infringement!
This is a T-Shirt I completely hand drew myself!
Here is my artwork:
http://www.eevblog.com/images/DaveFluxCapacitor.jpg
Here is the traditional image everyone rips off from a bit of promo
merch from the movie:
http://www.zazzle.com/flux_capacitor_tshirt-235779835903386546
There are still two differnt sellers on Zazzle with these type shirts.
So if I've got this straight, my original sylised and modified hand
drawing of a hand drawing from a scrap of paper from a scene in a
movie is somehow classed as infringing on someones copyright?
What's the world coming too?
**You shouldn't be surprised. Remember Duff Beer?
Copyright laws are just plain ludicrous. When the author of (say) Happy
Birthday gets 75 years protection and the inventor of (say) an artificial
heart only gets 7 years, one has to wonder if the laws require serious
overhaul.
--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au
nuny@bid.nes
Guest
Sat Feb 06, 2010 7:48 am
On Feb 5, 2:01 pm, "David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
Zazzle have just pulled all my Flux Capacitor blog mechandise from sale due
to Copyright infringement!
This is a T-Shirt I completely hand drew myself!
Here is my artwork:http://www.eevblog.com/images/DaveFluxCapacitor.jpg
Here is the traditional image everyone rips off from a bit of promo merch
from the movie:http://www.zazzle.com/flux_capacitor_tshirt-235779835903386546
There are still two differnt sellers on Zazzle with these type shirts.
They're paying royalties, and you weren't, right?
Quote:
So if I've got this straight, my original sylised and modified hand drawing
of a hand drawing from a scrap of paper from a scene in a movie is somehow
classed as infringing on someones copyright?
Yes. It's obviously derivative.
Quote:
What's the world coming too?
Design a new, unique circuit. Start making a profit from it. Have
somebody else design an obvious derivative circuit and start selling
it, taking sales you might have made.
Get back to us.
I may seem unsympathetic but the phrase "intellectual property" does
have meaning.
Mark L. Fergerson
Robert Baer
Guest
Sat Feb 06, 2010 8:12 am
David L. Jones wrote:
Quote:
Zazzle have just pulled all my Flux Capacitor blog mechandise from sale due
to Copyright infringement!
This is a T-Shirt I completely hand drew myself!
Here is my artwork:
http://www.eevblog.com/images/DaveFluxCapacitor.jpg
Here is the traditional image everyone rips off from a bit of promo merch
from the movie:
http://www.zazzle.com/flux_capacitor_tshirt-235779835903386546
There are still two differnt sellers on Zazzle with these type shirts.
So if I've got this straight, my original sylised and modified hand drawing
of a hand drawing from a scrap of paper from a scene in a movie is somehow
classed as infringing on someones copyright?
What's the world coming too?
Dave.
Have you never heard of the Golden Rule??
"He who has the gold, RULES".
kreed
Guest
Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:03 am
On Feb 6, 11:53 am, Sylvia Else <syl...@not.at.this.address> wrote:
Quote:
On 6/02/2010 11:13 AM, a7yvm109gf...@netzero.com wrote:
On Feb 5, 5:01 pm, "David L. Jones"<altz...@gmail.com> wrote:
Zazzle have just pulled all my Flux Capacitor blog mechandise from sale due
to Copyright infringement!
This is a T-Shirt I completely hand drew myself!
Here is my artwork:http://www.eevblog.com/images/DaveFluxCapacitor.jpg
Here is the traditional image everyone rips off from a bit of promo merch
from the movie:http://www.zazzle.com/flux_capacitor_tshirt-235779835903386546
There are still two differnt sellers on Zazzle with these type shirts.
So if I've got this straight, my original sylised and modified hand drawing
of a hand drawing from a scrap of paper from a scene in a movie is somehow
classed as infringing on someones copyright?
What's the world coming too?
Dave.
--
---------------------------------------------
Check out my Electronics Engineering Video Blog& Podcast:http://www..eevblog.com
Draw an equivalent delta network with flux inductors.
Perhaps.
But his problem isn't really that his T-shirt violates someone's
intellectual property rights, it's that Zazzle are intimidated by the
studio's legal department. Any design that the studio doesn't like is
going to be taken off Zazzle on the same basis, whether or not it
actually infringes anyone's rights.
Sylvia.
That sounds more like the truth of the matter.
It is a matter of who has the deepest pockets, and how much profit is
at stake. In the scheme of things, and with all due respect to David,
I doubt Zazzle or David would make enough $$ from the shirts to even
consider justifying a defence even if in the right.
Justice is a commodity, and the one with the most $$ usually gets the
"justice" they want.
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