OT: Copyright Infringement goes Back to The Future

Zazzle have just pulled all my Flux Capacitor blog mechandise from sale due
to Copyright infringement!
This is a T-Shirt I completely hand drew myself!

Here is my artwork:
http://www.eevblog.com/images/DaveFluxCapacitor.jpg

Here is the traditional image everyone rips off from a bit of promo merch
from the movie:
http://www.zazzle.com/flux_capacitor_tshirt-235779835903386546
There are still two differnt sellers on Zazzle with these type shirts.

So if I've got this straight, my original sylised and modified hand drawing
of a hand drawing from a scrap of paper from a scene in a movie is somehow
classed as infringing on someones copyright?

What's the world coming too?

Dave.

Zazzle have just pulled all my Flux Capacitor blog mechandise from sale due
to Copyright infringement!
This is a T-Shirt I completely hand drew myself!

Here is my artwork:
http://www.eevblog.com/images/DaveFluxCapacitor.jpg

Here is the traditional image everyone rips off from a bit of promo merch
from the movie:
http://www.zazzle.com/flux_capacitor_tshirt-235779835903386546
There are still two differnt sellers on Zazzle with these type shirts.

So if I've got this straight, my original sylised and modified hand drawing
of a hand drawing from a scrap of paper from a scene in a movie is somehow
classed as infringing on someones copyright?

What's the world coming too?

Dave.

"David L. Jones" <altzone_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
news:D_0bn.151541$uH1.3918_at_newsfe25.iad...
Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2/5/2010 5:01 PM, David L. Jones wrote:
Zazzle have just pulled all my Flux Capacitor blog mechandise from
sale due to Copyright infringement!
This is a T-Shirt I completely hand drew myself!

Here is my artwork:
http://www.eevblog.com/images/DaveFluxCapacitor.jpg

Here is the traditional image everyone rips off from a bit of promo
merch from the movie:
http://www.zazzle.com/flux_capacitor_tshirt-235779835903386546
There are still two differnt sellers on Zazzle with these type
shirts. So if I've got this straight, my original sylised and modified
hand
drawing of a hand drawing from a scrap of paper from a scene in a
movie is somehow classed as infringing on someones copyright?

What's the world coming too?

Dave.

Payback from the War guys, maybe?

The thought had crossed my mind!

I did see a button on the Zazzle site where one can report a "violation",
and it is likely that someone did that in spite or for retaliation. I read
the User Agreement and it is very broad in its definition of copyright so
they probably figured "better safe than sorry" and just pulled the ad to
avoid possible legal hassles. The BTTF guys probably had nothing to do with
it.

http://www.zazzle.com/mk/policy/user_agreement

Your design is definitely different but it has some key features that make
it instantly recognizable as a derivation from the original. Perhaps if it
were turned upside down? The equations appear to be different, and yours
does not actually have "Flux Capacitor" written. It's a really fine and
fuzzy line that someone claims you have crossed, and I think your claim
would stand up in court, although in a jury trial who knows what your
"peers" may think after being brainwashed by a skillful attorney.

Good luck,

Paul

David L. Jones wrote:
Zazzle have just pulled all my Flux Capacitor blog mechandise from
sale due to Copyright infringement!
This is a T-Shirt I completely hand drew myself!

Here is my artwork:
http://www.eevblog.com/images/DaveFluxCapacitor.jpg

Here is the traditional image everyone rips off from a bit of promo
merch from the movie:
http://www.zazzle.com/flux_capacitor_tshirt-235779835903386546
There are still two differnt sellers on Zazzle with these type shirts.

So if I've got this straight, my original sylised and modified hand
drawing of a hand drawing from a scrap of paper from a scene in a
movie is somehow classed as infringing on someones copyright?

What's the world coming too?

**You shouldn't be surprised. Remember Duff Beer?

Copyright laws are just plain ludicrous. When the author of (say) Happy
Birthday gets 75 years protection and the inventor of (say) an artificial
heart only gets 7 years, one has to wonder if the laws require serious
overhaul.

In article <7t4b43FiufU1_at_mid.individual.net>, trevor_at_rageaudio.com.au
says...

David L. Jones wrote:
Zazzle have just pulled all my Flux Capacitor blog mechandise from
sale due to Copyright infringement!
This is a T-Shirt I completely hand drew myself!

Here is my artwork:
http://www.eevblog.com/images/DaveFluxCapacitor.jpg

Here is the traditional image everyone rips off from a bit of promo
merch from the movie:
http://www.zazzle.com/flux_capacitor_tshirt-235779835903386546
There are still two differnt sellers on Zazzle with these type
shirts.

So if I've got this straight, my original sylised and modified hand
drawing of a hand drawing from a scrap of paper from a scene in a
movie is somehow classed as infringing on someones copyright?

What's the world coming too?

**You shouldn't be surprised. Remember Duff Beer?

Copyright laws are just plain ludicrous. When the author of (say)
Happy Birthday gets 75 years protection and the inventor of (say) an
artificial heart only gets 7 years, one has to wonder if the laws
require serious overhaul.

Well, patent law has its ridiculous points too.

On 6/02/2010 11:13 AM, a7yvm109gf5d1_at_netzero.com wrote:
On Feb 5, 5:01 pm, "David L. Jones"<altz...@gmail.com> wrote:
Zazzle have just pulled all my Flux Capacitor blog mechandise from
sale due to Copyright infringement!
This is a T-Shirt I completely hand drew myself!

Here is my
artwork:http://www.eevblog.com/images/DaveFluxCapacitor.jpg

Here is the traditional image everyone rips off from a bit of promo
merch from the
movie:http://www.zazzle.com/flux_capacitor_tshirt-235779835903386546
There are still two differnt sellers on Zazzle with these type
shirts.

So if I've got this straight, my original sylised and modified hand
drawing of a hand drawing from a scrap of paper from a scene in a
movie is somehow classed as infringing on someones copyright?

What's the world coming too?

Dave.

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Podcast:http://www.eevblog.com

Draw an equivalent delta network with flux inductors.

Perhaps.

But his problem isn't really that his T-shirt violates someone's
intellectual property rights, it's that Zazzle are intimidated by the
studio's legal department. Any design that the studio doesn't like is
going to be taken off Zazzle on the same basis, whether or not it
actually infringes anyone's rights.

Sylvia.

In article <GS1bn.28249$fu3.27808_at_newsfe12.iad>, paul_at_peschoen.com
says...

"David L. Jones" <altzone_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
news:D_0bn.151541$uH1.3918_at_newsfe25.iad...

http://www.zazzle.com/mk/policy/user_agreement

Your design is definitely different but it has some key features that make
it instantly recognizable as a derivation from the original. Perhaps if it
were turned upside down? The equations appear to be different, and yours
does not actually have "Flux Capacitor" written. It's a really fine and
fuzzy line that someone claims you have crossed, and I think your claim
would stand up in court, although in a jury trial who knows what your
"peers" may think after being brainwashed by a skillful attorney.

But I thought derivations were considered kosher under copyright law?

In article <Uy0bn.151539$uH1.10...@newsfe25.iad>, altz...@gmail.com

Zazzle have just pulled all my Flux Capacitor blog mechandise from sale due
to Copyright infringement!
...
Yet search Zazzle with the term "Flux Capacitor" and you get a zillion
hits for other t-shirts with the design on them. Not as fun as yours by
a mile. I like the geekiness of yours. Too bad NBC Universal are being
such dickheads.

On Feb 6, 11:53 am, Sylvia Else <syl...@not.at.this.address> wrote:
On 6/02/2010 11:13 AM, a7yvm109gf...@netzero.com wrote:



On Feb 5, 5:01 pm, "David L. Jones"<altz...@gmail.com> wrote:
Zazzle have just pulled all my Flux Capacitor blog mechandise from sale due
to Copyright infringement!
This is a T-Shirt I completely hand drew myself!
Here is my artwork:http://www.eevblog.com/images/DaveFluxCapacitor.jpg
Here is the traditional image everyone rips off from a bit of promo merch
from the movie:http://www.zazzle.com/flux_capacitor_tshirt-235779835903386546
There are still two differnt sellers on Zazzle with these type shirts.
So if I've got this straight, my original sylised and modified hand drawing
of a hand drawing from a scrap of paper from a scene in a movie is somehow
classed as infringing on someones copyright?
What's the world coming too?
Dave.
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Check out my Electronics Engineering Video Blog& Podcast:http://www.eevblog.com
Draw an equivalent delta network with flux inductors.
Perhaps.

But his problem isn't really that his T-shirt violates someone's
intellectual property rights, it's that Zazzle are intimidated by the
studio's legal department. Any design that the studio doesn't like is
going to be taken off Zazzle on the same basis, whether or not it
actually infringes anyone's rights.

Sylvia.

That sounds more like the truth of the matter.

It is a matter of who has the deepest pockets, and how much profit is
at stake. In the scheme of things, and with all due respect to David,
I doubt Zazzle or David would make enough $$ from the shirts to even
consider justifying a defence even if in the right.

Justice is a commodity, and the one with the most $$ usually gets the
"justice" they want.
That is what i said (about the Golden Rule).

David L. Jones wrote:
Zazzle have just pulled all my Flux Capacitor blog mechandise from
sale due to Copyright infringement!
This is a T-Shirt I completely hand drew myself!

Here is my artwork:
http://www.eevblog.com/images/DaveFluxCapacitor.jpg

Here is the traditional image everyone rips off from a bit of promo
merch from the movie:
http://www.zazzle.com/flux_capacitor_tshirt-235779835903386546
There are still two differnt sellers on Zazzle with these type shirts.

So if I've got this straight, my original sylised and modified hand
drawing of a hand drawing from a scrap of paper from a scene in a
movie is somehow classed as infringing on someones copyright?

What's the world coming too?

Dave.


You'll know that there's REALLY a problem with copyright law when the
estate of James Maxwell starts sending you takedown notices over the
equations...
Not possible; way beyond statutory time limits ASS-u-ME-ing he

reviews, and satire are IIRC the only two types of derived work that
are specifically allowed without needing permission from the copyright
holder.

Jasen Betts wrote:
reviews, and satire are IIRC the only two types of derived work that
are specifically allowed without needing permission from the copyright
holder.

So Walt disnwey gets away with it because their was no copyright on the
cultural works they appropriated and produced a derivative of?

Bitrex wrote:
David L. Jones wrote:
Zazzle have just pulled all my Flux Capacitor blog mechandise from
sale due to Copyright infringement!
This is a T-Shirt I completely hand drew myself!

Here is my artwork:
http://www.eevblog.com/images/DaveFluxCapacitor.jpg

Here is the traditional image everyone rips off from a bit of promo
merch from the movie:
http://www.zazzle.com/flux_capacitor_tshirt-235779835903386546
There are still two differnt sellers on Zazzle with these type shirts.

So if I've got this straight, my original sylised and modified hand
drawing of a hand drawing from a scrap of paper from a scene in a
movie is somehow classed as infringing on someones copyright?

What's the world coming too?

Dave.


You'll know that there's REALLY a problem with copyright law when the
estate of James Maxwell starts sending you takedown notices over the
equations...
Not possible; way beyond statutory time limits ASS-u-ME-ing he
copyrighted them initially (and he did NOT, so they are PD).