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OtterGuy
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Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:45 am   



What is the best way to protect bare steel metal surface (IT RUSTS
EASILY) for use in woodworking ? It is on a band saw.

Bee's Wax ?

Suggestions please.

Tom Biasi
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Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:45 am   



On 2/6/2020 6:20 PM, OtterGuy wrote:
Quote:

What is the best way to protect bare steel metal surface (IT RUSTS
EASILY) for use in woodworking ?   It is on a band saw.

Bee's Wax ?

Suggestions please.


https://www.travers.com/prevent-rust-631/p/81-006-001/?msclkid=32b87b87729914b9abc825bbd6137d47&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=BPA%20-%20Brands%20-%20Tooling%20Components%20and%20Workholding&utm_term=4584826052967624&utm_content=BPA%20Brand%20-%20Tooling%20Components%20and%20Workholding%7C10-20%7CC%3A45

pfjw@aol.com
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Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:45 pm   



On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 6:20:56 PM UTC-5, OtterGuy wrote:
Quote:
What is the best way to protect bare steel metal surface (IT RUSTS
EASILY) for use in woodworking ? It is on a band saw.

Bee's Wax ?

Suggestions please.


Tom has an excellent suggestion. However, when I worked as a machinist, we used a dry silicon spray for that purpose.

https://www.zoro.com/lps-dry-film-silicone-lubricant-aerosol-01616/i/G1377537/feature-product?gclid=Cj0KCQiAsvTxBRDkARIsAH4W_j_ngWbb5XCSIEzieOynkomCz-DfRLRvNmu4D0kKA_JvSgyD2OS8nXoaArKVEALw_wcB

We needed a material that did not attract or entrap dust.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

Bob Engelhardt
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Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:45 pm   



On 2/7/2020 7:10 AM, pfjw_at_aol.com wrote:
Quote:
Tom has an excellent suggestion. However, when I worked as a machinist, we used a dry silicon spray for that purpose.
...


One does NOT want to get silicone on any wood that is going to be
finished (stained, varnished, oiled).

A classic approach is paste floor wax, e.g., Butcher's.

Try a woodworking newsgroup.

pfjw@aol.com
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Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:45 pm   



On Friday, February 7, 2020 at 7:34:28 AM UTC-5, Bob Engelhardt wrote:

Quote:
One does NOT want to get silicone on any wood that is going to be
finished (stained, varnished, oiled).

A classic approach is paste floor wax, e.g., Butcher's.

Try a woodworking newsgroup.


"Sheet metal surfaces"

Not wood. Which does not rust in any case.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

Bob Engelhardt
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Sat Feb 08, 2020 4:45 am   



On 2/7/2020 7:53 AM, pfjw_at_aol.com wrote:
Quote:
On Friday, February 7, 2020 at 7:34:28 AM UTC-5, Bob Engelhardt wrote:

One does NOT want to get silicone on any wood that is going to be
finished (stained, varnished, oiled).

A classic approach is paste floor wax, e.g., Butcher's.

Try a woodworking newsgroup.


"Sheet metal surfaces"

Not wood. Which does not rust in any case.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA


You put the silicone on the steel table (the only unpainted surface on a
woodworking machine), then push wood across the table and you have
silicone on the wood.


Guest

Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:45 pm   



On Thursday, 6 February 2020 23:20:56 UTC, OtterGuy wrote:
Quote:
What is the best way to protect bare steel metal surface (IT RUSTS
EASILY) for use in woodworking ? It is on a band saw.

Bee's Wax ?

Suggestions please.


Best way depends entirely on your app, which you have not clarified. Teflon coated, gold plated, powder coated, oil, wax, paint, zinc, chrome, brass, burnt oil, any might be the best in your case.

pfjw@aol.com
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Sat Feb 08, 2020 7:45 pm   



Any product for the purpose would have the same result.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

Michael Terrell
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Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:45 pm   



On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 6:20:56 PM UTC-5, OtterGuy wrote:
Quote:
What is the best way to protect bare steel metal surface (IT RUSTS
EASILY) for use in woodworking ? It is on a band saw.

Bee's Wax ?

Suggestions please.


A thin layer of cabinet grade plywood.

Fox's Mercantile
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Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:45 pm   



On 2/8/20 1:19 PM, Michael Terrell wrote:
Quote:
On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 6:20:56 PM UTC-5, OtterGuy wrote:
What is the best way to protect bare steel metal surface (IT RUSTS
EASILY) for use in woodworking ? It is on a band saw.

Bee's Wax ?

Suggestions please.

A thin layer of cabinet grade plywood.


That prevents rust?


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Phil Hobbs
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Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:45 pm   



On 2020-02-06 18:20, OtterGuy wrote:
Quote:

What is the best way to protect bare steel metal surface (IT RUSTS
EASILY) for use in woodworking ?   It is on a band saw.

Bee's Wax ?

Suggestions please.


Blueing?

https://www.wikihow.com/Blue-Steel

Cheers

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Michael Terrell
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Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:45 am   



On Saturday, February 8, 2020 at 2:32:33 PM UTC-5, Fox's Mercantile wrote:
Quote:
On 2/8/20 1:19 PM, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 6:20:56 PM UTC-5, OtterGuy wrote:
What is the best way to protect bare steel metal surface (IT RUSTS
EASILY) for use in woodworking ? It is on a band saw.

Bee's Wax ?

Suggestions please.

A thin layer of cabinet grade plywood.


That prevents rust


You are as stupid as ever. All the other methods given in other posts will contaminate the wood. With the plywood cap in place, you can treat the metal with anything you want without the contamination problem. Just as a good condom would have prevented your dad from contaminating the gene pool.

Jeff Liebermann
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Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:45 pm   



On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 15:20:51 -0800, OtterGuy
<OtterGuy_at_OtterGuy-aioe.com> wrote:

Quote:
What is the best way to protect bare steel metal surface (IT RUSTS
EASILY) for use in woodworking ? It is on a band saw.


What part of the band saw? Steel, stainless, cast iron, pot metal,
saw blade, etc???? It helps to know what you're trying to protect.
Also, some of the coating methods I suggested below are not
appropriate for some flavors of steel.

Quote:
Bee's Wax ?
Suggestions please.


Cold bluing or passivation is probably the easiest, cheapest, and
least protective method of protecting steel. The problem with wood
working machinery is that it will abrade away the surface coating,
expose the underlying steel, and proceed to rust. Hot bluing is more
durable but requires multiple layers of bluing:
<https://www.wikihow.com/Blue-Steel>

If you want better protection, I suggest:
1. Nickel electroplating.
2. Black chrome plating over nickel.
3. Powder coated paint.

If you need the surface to absorb oil for lubrication, I suggest
Parkerizing:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkerizing>

Nickel plating, you can probably it do yourself at home.
<https://www.caswellplating.com/electroplating-anodizing/nickel-plating-kits/nickel-electroplating-kits.html>
The others, I suggest you send the unspecified band saw part to a
plating shop and have them plate it.

For powder coating paint:
<https://www.eastwood.com/hotcoat-powder-coating.html>
or ask at your local automobile paint shop.

If you don't mind re-coating the steel part, try one of the rust
inhibiting sprays or coatings. For example:
<https://www.wd40.com/products/corrosion-inhibitor/>

Also see:
<https://www.finishing.com>


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