OT: A nation of scammers (US Capitalism gone wild?)

"Paul E. Schoen" wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net> wrote in message
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"Paul E. Schoen" wrote:

But many people will need to learn to live cooperatively and in closer
contact with their neighbors, and change their lifestyles of
increasing
isolation even among family members as has been the trend in the last
50
years. We live in a global community and we can't continue to wolf
down
the
lion's share of the pie while billions of other world citizens
increasingly
demand their fair share. And the failures of recent wars show that we
can
no
longer take what we want by military force.

What have we taken by military force, other than the lives of our
military? Be specific.

It can be argued that we have facilitated the taking of cheap crude oil
from
the Middle East, by providing military protection for the US energy
companies' interests and continued profits. So we have "taken" Iraq, and
continue a strong military presence in the region. Even if the bulk of
forces are withdrawn, as promised, we will continue to monitor the
situation
and we'll be back if instability threatens our commercial interests
there.


Do you look for monsters under your bed?

On Mar 9, 9:00 pm, mpm <mpmill...@aol.com> wrote:





Lately, I've been barraged, nay, attacked by morons seeking to
separate me from my money.

What happend to the US?
It seems like I just woke up, and BAM!  - cheats, liars and theives
everywhere.

From the banks, to the government, to Vonage!
(Sorry Vonage, not a customer here, but hey, would it kill you to
mention aloud that your $14.95 price is only good for 6 months, and
even then, only with a one-year committment?)

It's gotten so bad lately that if a vendor actually told me the truth
about something, no matter how inane or inconsequential, I think I'd
just drop over dead right then and there.   In other words, people
(companies especially) are so untruthful so often, that I no longer
even consider the possibilty that they might not be.

Cynacism, or reality??

Note: not to pick on Vonage.  I could have just as easily used Heinz
Ketchup, or Acai Berry diets, or 401k's.
Everybody's looking for an angle, screw the other guy.  Whatever it
takes.  </rant

-mpm

I agree.  All the gold commercials are complete scams.  If you want
gold go find someone to sell you an ounce for 8% over spot price.
They will sell you gold at prices that will take another 50%
devaluation on the dollar to just break even.

I call these commercials all the time to challenge them:

Video professor?  - complete joke.

Rosetta Stone?  I have called two times for my "free" demo disk.
Guess what - no demo disk sent to me yet.  I had to listen to their
crap for 5 minutes to sign up for lessons and keep asking them for the
free demo disk that they talked about how badly they want to send you.

Free smoothies.  Nope.  They did not mention the shipping and handling
fees on the commercial.  Wanted to send them to me for free.  Of
course I will never give these scumballs my credit card number.

Every call is recorded so they can have proof that you agreed to their
$400 program after they take your credit card to simply process your
free whatever.

I call these guys all the time.  I hope that by calling these liar
scumbags out that maybe some of the people who take the calls will get
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On Mar 11, 3:42 am, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net
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JosephKK wrote:

On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:57:51 -0500, PeterD <pet...@hipson.net> wrote:

On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 18:16:40 -0800, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 18:00:58 -0800 (PST), mpm <mpmill...@aol.com
wrote:
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Note: not to pick on Vonage.  I could have just as easily used Heinz
Ketchup,

Everybody knows that DelMonte tastes better.

John

No way, if you want better, you have to make your own...

Gotta take a pass on that.  I use so little that even the smallest
bottles are spoiling before i get more than halfway through them.

  I haven't used any ketchup in over 40 years.  I never liked the
taste.  I love tomatoes, but ketchup always made my sick to my stomach.

--
Greed is the root of all eBay.

My three food groups are beef, onions and ketchup -- not catsup.  I
know I support John Kerry by buying Heinz,  but I claim this one
dispensation that I can buy Heinz Ketchup.- Hide quoted text -

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"brent" <buleg...@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message

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My impression about video professor from based upon reading stuff like
this:
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/education/video_professor.html

Wow.

Seems like a scam after all!

I liked Heinz LONG before I knew the Kerry's were involved.
So, I claim squatter's rights on this one too.

Not that I dislike Kerry per se, but the Dems could have fielded a
more winnable candidate...

On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:17:03 -0800 (PST), dagmargoodb...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Mar 10, 12:35 pm, "tm" <no...@msc.com> wrote:
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On Mar 10, 12:16 pm, Winston <Wins...@bigbrother.net> wrote:

On 3/10/2010 4:40 AM, mpm wrote:

(...)

I think today or tomorrow, just for kicks, I'll carry around a
notebook and jot down every instance of a scam I encounter that day.

Scams to include:

(...)

Mail-in rebate
Dealer auto service
"Sears Horsepower"
Dentistry
Psychology
In-home appliance repair

This list only gets bigger

--Winston

Jobs created or saved

Microsoft Works

"Laser-like focus on jobs."

Well, his policies certainly have zapped enough of 'em and he's certainly not
done with his laser yet.

On Mar 11, 6:21 pm, mpm <mpmill...@aol.com> wrote:

On Mar 11, 1:41 pm, "Joel Koltner" wrote:

"amdx" wrote:

When my contract was about to expire they called me to renew and
I laid into them about the "additional Nextel Charges" They dropped
them for a short time. Now I see "Sprint Surcharges" $2.66.

In general the cell phone companies all seem to add about 10% in "junk fees."
I'm pretty sure their strategy is that, since they want to be able to
advertise a "price" that's as low (competitive-looking) as possible, they set
the junk fees at a level just below where the government would get involved
and charge them with false advertising.

- FYI

These fees are probably relates to the Universal Service Fund.
Basically, all of us pitch in to promote wired and wireless service in
rural areas (where it is expensive for carriers to deploy towers and
landline assets).
Nevermind they're all making record profits....

Are they?  Do tell.

On Mar 9, 8:00 pm, mpm <mpmill...@aol.com> wrote:
Lately, I've been barraged, nay, attacked by morons seeking to
separate me from my money.

What happend to the US?
It seems like I just woke up, and BAM! - cheats, liars and theives
everywhere.

From the banks, to the government, to Vonage!
(Sorry Vonage, not a customer here, but hey, would it kill you to
mention aloud that your $14.95 price is only good for 6 months, and
even then, only with a one-year committment?)

It's gotten so bad lately that if a vendor actually told me the truth
about something, no matter how inane or inconsequential, I think I'd
just drop over dead right then and there. In other words, people
(companies especially) are so untruthful so often, that I no longer
even consider the possibilty that they might not be.

Cynacism, or reality??

Note: not to pick on Vonage. I could have just as easily used Heinz
Ketchup, or Acai Berry diets, or 401k's.
Everybody's looking for an angle, screw the other guy. Whatever it
takes. </rant

-mpm

Heinz Ketchup is crooked now? Dang!
I wrote to the tuna hotline and complained that there wasn't

Lately, I've been barraged, nay, attacked by morons seeking to
separate me from my money.

What happend to the US?
It seems like I just woke up, and BAM!  - cheats, liars and theives
everywhere.

From the banks, to the government, to Vonage!
(Sorry Vonage, not a customer here, but hey, would it kill you to
mention aloud that your $14.95 price is only good for 6 months, and
even then, only with a one-year committment?)

It's gotten so bad lately that if a vendor actually told me the truth
about something, no matter how inane or inconsequential, I think I'd
just drop over dead right then and there.   In other words, people
(companies especially) are so untruthful so often, that I no longer
even consider the possibilty that they might not be.

Cynacism, or reality??

Note: not to pick on Vonage.  I could have just as easily used Heinz
Ketchup, or Acai Berry diets, or 401k's.
Everybody's looking for an angle, screw the other guy.  Whatever it
takes.  </rant

-mpm

Another scam received in the mail today.

mpm wrote:
Another scam received in the mail today.
This one is from Construct Data Publishers.

The scam:

For $1,717/yr. (for 3 years, with a 1-year auto-renewal if you don't
cancel), they will publish your basic company information online at
www.fairguide.com.
Wow.!!!
Like anyone would ever find our Company there -- and note, their
online tradeshow guide is not the official guide of ANY trade show.

Just a complete, total, waste of money.

But, the scam must work?
It had to cost at least $0.35 or so to mail us the Order Form.

http://www.networksolutions.com/whois-search/fairguide.com

Check out where their servers are located !!

Yea, I would want my customers visiting me there !!  :-|

hamilton

Another scam received in the mail today.
This one is from Construct Data Publishers.

The scam:

For $1,717/yr. (for 3 years, with a 1-year auto-renewal if you don't
cancel), they will publish your basic company information online at
www.fairguide.com.
Wow.!!!
Like anyone would ever find our Company there -- and note, their
online tradeshow guide is not the official guide of ANY trade show.

Just a complete, total, waste of money.

But, the scam must work?
It had to cost at least $0.35 or so to mail us the Order Form.

mpm wrote:
Another scam received in the mail today.
This one is from Construct Data Publishers.

The scam:

For $1,717/yr. (for 3 years, with a 1-year auto-renewal if you don't
cancel), they will publish your basic company information online at
www.fairguide.com.
Wow.!!!
Like anyone would ever find our Company there -- and note, their
online tradeshow guide is not the official guide of ANY trade show.

Just a complete, total, waste of money.

But, the scam must work?
It had to cost at least $0.35 or so to mail us the Order Form.

http://www.networksolutions.com/whois-search/fairguide.com

Check out where their servers are located !!

Yea, I would want my customers visiting me there !! :-|

hamilton

Lately, I've been barraged, nay, attacked by morons seeking to
separate me from my money.

What happend to the US?
It seems like I just woke up, and BAM!  - cheats, liars and theives
everywhere.

From the banks, to the government, to Vonage!

(Sorry Vonage, not a customer here, but hey, would it kill you to
mention aloud that your $14.95 price is only good for 6 months, and
even then, only with a one-year committment?)