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Jim Thompson
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Sun Mar 07, 2010 11:23 pm
On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 17:15:02 -0500, "Martin Riddle"
<martin_rid_at_verizon.net> wrote:
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"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon_at_My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
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On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 14:00:41 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
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Archimedes' Lever wrote:
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 09:44:28 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon_at_My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
Spehro, What do you recommend for an IR thermometer? I have a
"slab
leak", so I want to scan the tile floor and localize which tiles I
need to rip up :-(
"Slab leak"? What's leaking? Air? Heat?
Water. Here in AZ they stupidly put the copper water pipes under the
slab, ignoring the thermal motion, and corrosion, making pin-hole
leaks :-(
Pin hole leaks... Does not sound good, they might keep popping up on
you.
I think bare feet should suffice in locating the leak , as well as the
wet spot.
But a pro might suggest replumbing, which might be the right option.
Cheers
I've heard of "repiping" by sliding a sleeve of some kind of plastic
into the pipe.
Anyone know of that technique?
...Jim Thompson
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Archimedes' Lever
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Sun Mar 07, 2010 11:27 pm
On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 17:15:02 -0500, "Martin Riddle"
<martin_rid_at_verizon.net> wrote:
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"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon_at_My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
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On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 14:00:41 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
Paul_at_Hovnanian.com> wrote:
Archimedes' Lever wrote:
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 09:44:28 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon_at_My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
Spehro, What do you recommend for an IR thermometer? I have a
"slab
leak", so I want to scan the tile floor and localize which tiles I
need to rip up :-(
"Slab leak"? What's leaking? Air? Heat?
Water. Here in AZ they stupidly put the copper water pipes under the
slab, ignoring the thermal motion, and corrosion, making pin-hole
leaks :-(
Pin hole leaks... Does not sound good, they might keep popping up on
you.
I think bare feet should suffice in locating the leak , as well as the
wet spot.
But a pro might suggest replumbing, which might be the right option.
Cheers
I think there are even folks that apply a lining to the pipes. That was
drainage though.
Feed lines likely need fool replacement though. (tee hee hee <sic>)
Jim Thompson
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Sun Mar 07, 2010 11:36 pm
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 15:23:51 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon_at_My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 17:15:02 -0500, "Martin Riddle"
martin_rid_at_verizon.net> wrote:
"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon_at_My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
message news:so88p5t8t1iqn1vbfmd1cfaq1s9aanm293_at_4ax.com...
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 14:00:41 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
Paul_at_Hovnanian.com> wrote:
Archimedes' Lever wrote:
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 09:44:28 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon_at_My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
Spehro, What do you recommend for an IR thermometer? I have a
"slab
leak", so I want to scan the tile floor and localize which tiles I
need to rip up :-(
"Slab leak"? What's leaking? Air? Heat?
Water. Here in AZ they stupidly put the copper water pipes under the
slab, ignoring the thermal motion, and corrosion, making pin-hole
leaks :-(
Pin hole leaks... Does not sound good, they might keep popping up on
you.
I think bare feet should suffice in locating the leak , as well as the
wet spot.
But a pro might suggest replumbing, which might be the right option.
Cheers
I've heard of "repiping" by sliding a sleeve of some kind of plastic
into the pipe.
Anyone know of that technique?
...Jim Thompson
martin_rid_at_verizon.net> wrote:
"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon_at_My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
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On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 14:00:41 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
Paul_at_Hovnanian.com> wrote:
Archimedes' Lever wrote:
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 09:44:28 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon_at_My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
Spehro, What do you recommend for an IR thermometer? I have a
"slab
leak", so I want to scan the tile floor and localize which tiles I
need to rip up :-(
"Slab leak"? What's leaking? Air? Heat?
Water. Here in AZ they stupidly put the copper water pipes under the
slab, ignoring the thermal motion, and corrosion, making pin-hole
leaks :-(
Pin hole leaks... Does not sound good, they might keep popping up on
you.
I think bare feet should suffice in locating the leak , as well as the
wet spot.
But a pro might suggest replumbing, which might be the right option.
Cheers
I've heard of "repiping" by sliding a sleeve of some kind of plastic
into the pipe.
Anyone know of that technique?
...Jim Thompson
Or this...
http://www.aceenvirotech.com/
...Jim Thompson
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Mon Mar 08, 2010 1:56 am
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 15:07:03 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon_at_My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 14:00:41 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
Paul_at_Hovnanian.com> wrote:
Archimedes' Lever wrote:
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 09:44:28 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon_at_My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
Spehro, What do you recommend for an IR thermometer? I have a "slab
leak", so I want to scan the tile floor and localize which tiles I
need to rip up :-(
"Slab leak"? What's leaking? Air? Heat?
Water. Here in AZ they stupidly put the copper water pipes under the
slab, ignoring the thermal motion, and corrosion, making pin-hole
leaks
Paul_at_Hovnanian.com> wrote:
Archimedes' Lever wrote:
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 09:44:28 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon_at_My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
Spehro, What do you recommend for an IR thermometer? I have a "slab
leak", so I want to scan the tile floor and localize which tiles I
need to rip up :-(
"Slab leak"? What's leaking? Air? Heat?
Water. Here in AZ they stupidly put the copper water pipes under the
slab, ignoring the thermal motion, and corrosion, making pin-hole
leaks
My house has PEX in the slab. Just as dumb, but at least they aren't rigid.
Robert Baer
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Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:01 am
Jim Flanagan wrote:
Quote:
I've been 'eye-balling' these cheap meters and am wondering if I want
to take a chance on one of these. Curious if anyone has any experience
with these? They may be nothing but junk, but who knows?
http://cgi.ebay.com/2-K-Type-Digital-Thermometer-with-Thermocouple-Sensors_W0QQitemZ250591227188QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3a5866ad34
-jim
Toss one together yourself; i will even send you some TC wire.
Use a torch to make a connection bead at one end, make 2 TCs one for
the ice bath and connect to a decent sensitivity pane meter.
Most expensive part is the meter even if from surplus house.
Paul Hovnanian P.E.
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Tue Mar 09, 2010 4:04 am
Jim Thompson wrote:
Quote:
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 14:00:41 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
Paul_at_Hovnanian.com> wrote:
Archimedes' Lever wrote:
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 09:44:28 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon_at_My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
Spehro, What do you recommend for an IR thermometer? I have a "slab
leak", so I want to scan the tile floor and localize which tiles I
need to rip up :-(
"Slab leak"? What's leaking? Air? Heat?
Water. Here in AZ they stupidly put the copper water pipes under the
slab, ignoring the thermal motion, and corrosion, making pin-hole
leaks
Under the slab, not in it? That's going to be tough to find. The water
can migrate quite a ways before it contacts the slab where you'll find
the cool spot.
Any change you can just abandon the buried stuff and have PEX snaked
through the walls?
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artie
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Tue Mar 09, 2010 4:24 am
In article <dp98p5t8gq9p3qln4qu8tko3np8ne9q487_at_4ax.com>, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon_at_My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
Quote:
I've heard of "repiping" by sliding a sleeve of some kind of plastic
into the pipe.
Anyone know of that technique?
...Jim Thompson
Pretty common on the Left Coast, particularly in Eichler-style homes,
which also used copper-in-slab radiant heating.
Pinholes, jackhammers. Noisy and expensive. This might be the time to
go to forced air?
Paul Hovnanian P.E.
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Tue Mar 09, 2010 4:27 am
Jim Thompson wrote:
Quote:
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 15:13:02 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
speffSNIP_at_interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 09:44:28 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon_at_My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 11:30:43 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
speffSNIP_at_interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:
On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 11:18:56 -0500, the renowned "Martin Riddle"
martin_rid_at_verizon.net> wrote:
"Jim Flanagan" <jflan_at_tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4b93b823$0$4969$9a6e19ea_at_unlimited.newshosting.com...
I've been 'eye-balling' these cheap meters and am wondering if I want
to take a chance on one of these. Curious if anyone has any
experience
with these? They may be nothing but junk, but who knows?
http://cgi.ebay.com/2-K-Type-Digital-Thermometer-with-Thermocouple-Sensors_W0QQitemZ250591227188QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3a5866ad34
-jim
Made in China, but seems like a legit company.
http://www.chinasampo.cn/Thermometer/DM6802B.htm
Hey for $10 it's worth the risk.
Cheers
$26 with postage... and if it's dead you only get $10 back, but still
very cheap.
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
Spehro, What do you recommend for an IR thermometer? I have a "slab
leak", so I want to scan the tile floor and localize which tiles I
need to rip up :-(
...Jim Thompson
What's the emissivity of the tiles look to be? Most tiles are shiny so
a fast contact probe might be a better bet, but NONE of the cheap
meters come with a proper ribbon thermocouple, which alone is worth
$40-$100. I could lend you a probe if you have a meter with a type-K
jack. You only need relative readings, so just about any meter should
do.
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
I don't have such a meter
Damn! You just missed a sale at Harbor Freight. These were going for
about $25
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=96451
Measuring shiny surfaces (tile) isn't too difficult. You just stick a
patch of tape on each one, let it stabilize and use it as a target. You
can write the readings down on the tape as well.
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JosephKK
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Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:20 pm
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 15:23:51 -0700, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon_at_My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 17:15:02 -0500, "Martin Riddle"
martin_rid_at_verizon.net> wrote:
"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon_at_My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
message news:so88p5t8t1iqn1vbfmd1cfaq1s9aanm293_at_4ax.com...
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 14:00:41 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
Paul_at_Hovnanian.com> wrote:
Archimedes' Lever wrote:
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 09:44:28 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon_at_My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
Spehro, What do you recommend for an IR thermometer? I have a
"slab
leak", so I want to scan the tile floor and localize which tiles I
need to rip up :-(
"Slab leak"? What's leaking? Air? Heat?
Water. Here in AZ they stupidly put the copper water pipes under the
slab, ignoring the thermal motion, and corrosion, making pin-hole
leaks :-(
Pin hole leaks... Does not sound good, they might keep popping up on
you.
I think bare feet should suffice in locating the leak , as well as the
wet spot.
But a pro might suggest replumbing, which might be the right option.
Cheers
I've heard of "repiping" by sliding a sleeve of some kind of plastic
into the pipe.
Anyone know of that technique?
...Jim Thompson
martin_rid_at_verizon.net> wrote:
"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon_at_My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
message news:so88p5t8t1iqn1vbfmd1cfaq1s9aanm293_at_4ax.com...
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 14:00:41 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
Paul_at_Hovnanian.com> wrote:
Archimedes' Lever wrote:
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 09:44:28 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon_at_My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
Spehro, What do you recommend for an IR thermometer? I have a
"slab
leak", so I want to scan the tile floor and localize which tiles I
need to rip up :-(
"Slab leak"? What's leaking? Air? Heat?
Water. Here in AZ they stupidly put the copper water pipes under the
slab, ignoring the thermal motion, and corrosion, making pin-hole
leaks :-(
Pin hole leaks... Does not sound good, they might keep popping up on
you.
I think bare feet should suffice in locating the leak , as well as the
wet spot.
But a pro might suggest replumbing, which might be the right option.
Cheers
I've heard of "repiping" by sliding a sleeve of some kind of plastic
into the pipe.
Anyone know of that technique?
...Jim Thompson
I have, but it has some limitations. It will not go around bends let alone
elbows (though it can handle sweeps). It cannot handle "T" or "Y" taps.
I will mention directional boring for the work under the slab.
JosephKK
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Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:23 pm
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 15:36:00 -0700, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon_at_My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 15:23:51 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon_at_My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 17:15:02 -0500, "Martin Riddle"
martin_rid_at_verizon.net> wrote:
"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon_at_My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
message news:so88p5t8t1iqn1vbfmd1cfaq1s9aanm293_at_4ax.com...
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 14:00:41 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
Paul_at_Hovnanian.com> wrote:
Archimedes' Lever wrote:
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 09:44:28 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon_at_My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
Spehro, What do you recommend for an IR thermometer? I have a
"slab
leak", so I want to scan the tile floor and localize which tiles I
need to rip up :-(
"Slab leak"? What's leaking? Air? Heat?
Water. Here in AZ they stupidly put the copper water pipes under the
slab, ignoring the thermal motion, and corrosion, making pin-hole
leaks :-(
Pin hole leaks... Does not sound good, they might keep popping up on
you.
I think bare feet should suffice in locating the leak , as well as the
wet spot.
But a pro might suggest replumbing, which might be the right option.
Cheers
I've heard of "repiping" by sliding a sleeve of some kind of plastic
into the pipe.
Anyone know of that technique?
...Jim Thompson
Or this...
http://www.aceenvirotech.com/
...Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon_at_My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 17:15:02 -0500, "Martin Riddle"
martin_rid_at_verizon.net> wrote:
"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon_at_My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
message news:so88p5t8t1iqn1vbfmd1cfaq1s9aanm293_at_4ax.com...
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 14:00:41 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
Paul_at_Hovnanian.com> wrote:
Archimedes' Lever wrote:
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 09:44:28 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon_at_My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
Spehro, What do you recommend for an IR thermometer? I have a
"slab
leak", so I want to scan the tile floor and localize which tiles I
need to rip up :-(
"Slab leak"? What's leaking? Air? Heat?
Water. Here in AZ they stupidly put the copper water pipes under the
slab, ignoring the thermal motion, and corrosion, making pin-hole
leaks :-(
Pin hole leaks... Does not sound good, they might keep popping up on
you.
I think bare feet should suffice in locating the leak , as well as the
wet spot.
But a pro might suggest replumbing, which might be the right option.
Cheers
I've heard of "repiping" by sliding a sleeve of some kind of plastic
into the pipe.
Anyone know of that technique?
...Jim Thompson
Or this...
http://www.aceenvirotech.com/
...Jim Thompson
Interesting. Worth a serious look.
Michael A. Terrell
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Thu Mar 11, 2010 5:33 am
"Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote:
Quote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 15:13:02 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
speffSNIP_at_interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 09:44:28 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon_at_My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 11:30:43 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
speffSNIP_at_interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:
On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 11:18:56 -0500, the renowned "Martin Riddle"
martin_rid_at_verizon.net> wrote:
"Jim Flanagan" <jflan_at_tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4b93b823$0$4969$9a6e19ea_at_unlimited.newshosting.com...
I've been 'eye-balling' these cheap meters and am wondering if I want
to take a chance on one of these. Curious if anyone has any
experience
with these? They may be nothing but junk, but who knows?
http://cgi.ebay.com/2-K-Type-Digital-Thermometer-with-Thermocouple-Sensors_W0QQitemZ250591227188QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3a5866ad34
-jim
Made in China, but seems like a legit company.
http://www.chinasampo.cn/Thermometer/DM6802B.htm
Hey for $10 it's worth the risk.
Cheers
$26 with postage... and if it's dead you only get $10 back, but still
very cheap.
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
Spehro, What do you recommend for an IR thermometer? I have a "slab
leak", so I want to scan the tile floor and localize which tiles I
need to rip up :-(
...Jim Thompson
What's the emissivity of the tiles look to be? Most tiles are shiny so
a fast contact probe might be a better bet, but NONE of the cheap
meters come with a proper ribbon thermocouple, which alone is worth
$40-$100. I could lend you a probe if you have a meter with a type-K
jack. You only need relative readings, so just about any meter should
do.
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
I don't have such a meter :-(
Damn! You just missed a sale at Harbor Freight. These were going for
about $25
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=96451
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=93984
is on sale for $19.95 on the main page of their website:
http://www.harborfreight.com/
Quote:
Measuring shiny surfaces (tile) isn't too difficult. You just stick a
patch of tape on each one, let it stabilize and use it as a target. You
can write the readings down on the tape as well.
patch of tape on each one, let it stabilize and use it as a target. You
can write the readings down on the tape as well.
Flat black spray paint?
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