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sphinx
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Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:28 am   



Hello,

Would anyone know of SPICE libraries released under an open source license?

sphinx

Jim Thompson
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Tue Feb 11, 2014 7:26 am   



On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 21:28:31 +0100, sphinx <sphinx_at_beotie.net> wrote:

Quote:
Hello,

Would anyone know of SPICE libraries released under an open source license?

sphinx


Not collected in one place, but there are models everywhere.

What would you pay for a HUGE library ?:-}

I have just about everything known to man.

...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

sphinx
Guest

Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:10 am   



Le 11/02/2014 01:26, Jim Thompson a écrit :
Quote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 21:28:31 +0100, sphinx <sphinx_at_beotie.net> wrote:

Hello,

Would anyone know of SPICE libraries released under an open source license?

sphinx

Not collected in one place, but there are models everywhere.

What would you pay for a HUGE library ?:-}

I have just about everything known to man.

...Jim Thompson


Thank you Jim Thompson, how are you doing?

My question was really about the issue of the license, not about price,
cost, availability or repository. I've seen libraries or single models
with a copyright notice and the statement "all right reserved" (which de
facto includes the right to distribute, as-is or modified, etc.). I have
also seen proprietary licenses attached to a some models and... Many
models and libraries without any explicit license!

By the way, should the libraries provided with Ngspice be uderstood to
be covered by the same modified-BSD license as Ngspice, or implicitely
public domain?

So if someone would know, if some SPICE libraries were ever released
under an open source license, or if this is theoretically possible, I
would be interested to know. But this is maybe not the right newsgroup
to ask a question about license issues.

sphinx

Jim Thompson
Guest

Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:47 am   



On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 00:10:18 +0100, sphinx <sphinx_at_beotie.net> wrote:

Quote:
Le 11/02/2014 01:26, Jim Thompson a écrit :
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 21:28:31 +0100, sphinx <sphinx_at_beotie.net> wrote:

Hello,

Would anyone know of SPICE libraries released under an open source license?

sphinx

Not collected in one place, but there are models everywhere.

What would you pay for a HUGE library ?:-}

I have just about everything known to man.

...Jim Thompson


Thank you Jim Thompson, how are you doing?

My question was really about the issue of the license, not about price,
cost, availability or repository. I've seen libraries or single models
with a copyright notice and the statement "all right reserved" (which de
facto includes the right to distribute, as-is or modified, etc.). I have
also seen proprietary licenses attached to a some models and... Many
models and libraries without any explicit license!

By the way, should the libraries provided with Ngspice be uderstood to
be covered by the same modified-BSD license as Ngspice, or implicitely
public domain?

So if someone would know, if some SPICE libraries were ever released
under an open source license, or if this is theoretically possible, I
would be interested to know. But this is maybe not the right newsgroup
to ask a question about license issues.

sphinx


I don't if there's really any restrictions on the _use_ of models,
copyright or not

The biggest problem I see on the LTspice list is that _very_few_
people actually know how to manage libraries. The standard BS of
putting the schematic and all its needed symbols and libraries in one
folder is just that, plain BS.

I have a large directory that encompasses all my symbols and device
libraries, by manufacturer and/or foundry.

All my projects/schematics are in their individual customer
directories, and each schematic calls, by path, the symbols and
libraries/models as needed.

INCLUDE is the _worst_possible_way_ to manage such stuff.

Come by some time and I'll give a demo.

Invitation applies to any and all.

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson | mens |
| Analog Innovations | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| San Tan Valley, AZ 85142 Skype: Contacts Only | |
| Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

sphinx
Guest

Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:24 am   



On 12/02/2014 01:47, Jim Thompson completely missed the point again:
Quote:

On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 00:10:18 +0100, sphinx <sphinx_at_beotie.net> wrote:

My question was really about the issue of the license, not about price,
cost, availability or repository. I've seen libraries or single models
with a copyright notice and the statement "all right reserved" (which de
facto includes the right to distribute, as-is or modified, etc.). I have
also seen proprietary licenses attached to a some models and... Many
models and libraries without any explicit license!

By the way, should the libraries provided with Ngspice be uderstood to
be covered by the same modified-BSD license as Ngspice, or implicitely
public domain?

So if someone would know, if some SPICE libraries were ever released
under an open source license, or if this is theoretically possible, I
would be interested to know. But this is maybe not the right newsgroup
to ask a question about license issues.

sphinx


I don't if there's really any restrictions on the _use_ of models,
copyright or not

The biggest problem I see on the LTspice list is that _very_few_
people actually know how to manage libraries. The standard BS of
putting the schematic and all its needed symbols and libraries in one
folder is just that, plain BS.

I have a large directory that encompasses all my symbols and device
libraries, by manufacturer and/or foundry.

All my projects/schematics are in their individual customer
directories, and each schematic calls, by path, the symbols and
libraries/models as needed.

INCLUDE is the _worst_possible_way_ to manage such stuff.

Come by some time and I'll give a demo.

Invitation applies to any and all.

...Jim Thompson


Hi Jimmy.

Did someone in this discussion use the word "restriction" or mentionned
the "use" of SPICE models?

Did someone mention LTspice at all?

Did someone in this thread ask to see your collection of models?

What's wrong here? Have you exhausted everybody's patience so that you
are the last man standing?

If the concept of license is a mystery to you, why not:

Option 1: holding back from replying

Option 2: answering that you don't know

Option 3: asking for clarifications

sphinx

Jim Thompson
Guest

Thu Feb 13, 2014 8:26 am   



On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 21:24:52 +0100, sphinx <sphinx_at_beotie.net> wrote:

Quote:
On 12/02/2014 01:47, Jim Thompson completely missed the point again:

On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 00:10:18 +0100, sphinx <sphinx_at_beotie.net> wrote:

My question was really about the issue of the license, not about price,
cost, availability or repository. I've seen libraries or single models
with a copyright notice and the statement "all right reserved" (which de
facto includes the right to distribute, as-is or modified, etc.). I have
also seen proprietary licenses attached to a some models and... Many
models and libraries without any explicit license!

By the way, should the libraries provided with Ngspice be uderstood to
be covered by the same modified-BSD license as Ngspice, or implicitely
public domain?

So if someone would know, if some SPICE libraries were ever released
under an open source license, or if this is theoretically possible, I
would be interested to know. But this is maybe not the right newsgroup
to ask a question about license issues.

sphinx


I don't if there's really any restrictions on the _use_ of models,
copyright or not

The biggest problem I see on the LTspice list is that _very_few_
people actually know how to manage libraries. The standard BS of
putting the schematic and all its needed symbols and libraries in one
folder is just that, plain BS.

I have a large directory that encompasses all my symbols and device
libraries, by manufacturer and/or foundry.

All my projects/schematics are in their individual customer
directories, and each schematic calls, by path, the symbols and
libraries/models as needed.

INCLUDE is the _worst_possible_way_ to manage such stuff.

Come by some time and I'll give a demo.

Invitation applies to any and all.

...Jim Thompson


Hi Jimmy.

Did someone in this discussion use the word "restriction" or mentionned
the "use" of SPICE models?

Did someone mention LTspice at all?

Did someone in this thread ask to see your collection of models?

What's wrong here? Have you exhausted everybody's patience so that you
are the last man standing?

If the concept of license is a mystery to you, why not:

Option 1: holding back from replying

Option 2: answering that you don't know

Option 3: asking for clarifications

sphinx


Excuse me? What is your problem? Reading comprehension?

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson | mens |
| Analog Innovations | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| San Tan Valley, AZ 85142 Skype: Contacts Only | |
| Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Jim Thompson
Guest

Thu Feb 13, 2014 8:30 am   



On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 18:26:42 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon_at_On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

Quote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 21:24:52 +0100, sphinx <sphinx_at_beotie.net> wrote:

On 12/02/2014 01:47, Jim Thompson completely missed the point again:

On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 00:10:18 +0100, sphinx <sphinx_at_beotie.net> wrote:

My question was really about the issue of the license, not about price,
cost, availability or repository. I've seen libraries or single models
with a copyright notice and the statement "all right reserved" (which de
facto includes the right to distribute, as-is or modified, etc.). I have
also seen proprietary licenses attached to a some models and... Many
models and libraries without any explicit license!

By the way, should the libraries provided with Ngspice be uderstood to
be covered by the same modified-BSD license as Ngspice, or implicitely
public domain?

So if someone would know, if some SPICE libraries were ever released
under an open source license, or if this is theoretically possible, I
would be interested to know. But this is maybe not the right newsgroup
to ask a question about license issues.

sphinx


I don't if there's really any restrictions on the _use_ of models,
copyright or not

The biggest problem I see on the LTspice list is that _very_few_
people actually know how to manage libraries. The standard BS of
putting the schematic and all its needed symbols and libraries in one
folder is just that, plain BS.

I have a large directory that encompasses all my symbols and device
libraries, by manufacturer and/or foundry.

All my projects/schematics are in their individual customer
directories, and each schematic calls, by path, the symbols and
libraries/models as needed.

INCLUDE is the _worst_possible_way_ to manage such stuff.

Come by some time and I'll give a demo.

Invitation applies to any and all.

...Jim Thompson


Hi Jimmy.

Did someone in this discussion use the word "restriction" or mentionned
the "use" of SPICE models?

Did someone mention LTspice at all?

Did someone in this thread ask to see your collection of models?

What's wrong here? Have you exhausted everybody's patience so that you
are the last man standing?

If the concept of license is a mystery to you, why not:

Option 1: holding back from replying

Option 2: answering that you don't know

Option 3: asking for clarifications

sphinx

Excuse me? What is your problem? Reading comprehension?

...Jim Thompson


Their "license" allows you to use their particular model. There is no
such thing as an all-encompassing library... except my own collection,
of course.

Asshole.

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson | mens |
| Analog Innovations | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| San Tan Valley, AZ 85142 Skype: Contacts Only | |
| Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

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