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Rod Speed
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Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:45 pm   



"Fredxx" <fredxx_at_nospam.com> wrote in message
news:q24uqi$i83$3_at_dont-email.me...
Quote:
On 21/01/2019 16:04:23, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 15:49:20 -0000, trader_4 <trader4_at_optonline.net
wrote:

On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 10:36:50 AM UTC-5, Fredxx wrote:
On 21/01/2019 15:11:41, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 14:56:52 -0000, Fredxx <fredxx_at_nospam.com> wrote:

On 02/01/2019 16:51:07, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 16:43:20 -0000, trader_4
trader4_at_optonline.net
wrote:

On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 10:58:16 AM UTC-5, Commander
Kinsey
wrote:
On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 13:26:42 -0000, trader_4
trader4_at_optonline.net
wrote:

On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 6:26:03 AM UTC-5,
angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Tuesday, January 1, 2019 at 3:58:10 PM UTC-5, Commander
Kinsey
wrote:
On Tue, 01 Jan 2019 13:00:40 -0000,
angelicapaganelli_at_yahoo.com> wrote:

On Monday, December 31, 2018 at 5:39:43 PM UTC-5,
Commander
Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 31 Dec 2018 11:34:40 -0000,
angelicapaganelli_at_yahoo.com> wrote:

On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 3:24:35 PM UTC-5,
William
Gothberg wrote:
On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 20:20:18 -0000, trader_4
trader4_at_optonline.net> wrote:

On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 12:16:27 PM UTC-5,
William Gothberg wrote:
On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 10:21:46 -0000, Max Demian
max_demian_at_bigfoot.com> wrote:

On 30/12/2018 03:18, Bill Wright wrote:
On 29/12/2018 17:35, William Gothberg wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 17:15:05 -0000, Bill Wright
wrightsaerials_at_f2s.com> wrote:

On 29/12/2018 16:27, William Gothberg wrote:

It can take 5 minutes to warm something from
frozen to eating
temperature. I see no reason that couldn't
be
made into 2 minutes.

Conduction

Which would be way faster if the water
content the
microwaves were
hitting was heated hotter.

But the difference in temp between the outside
and
the inside of the
food would be greater and this could result in
food
that was both over-
and under-cooked. This is why microwave ovens
have
low settings, so food
can cook slowly and evenly. Anyone who uses a
microwave a lot will be
well aware of this. For items where convection
can
assist conduction
higher power can be fine, but not for large
solid
lumps of food.

I can't say many things I cook have large solid
lumps.
All ready meals are pretty much fluid, so convection and
conduction
can take place, and almost everything I cook is a dish of
something
which is only 2 inches deep.

I don't know what the low settings are for. All
the
instructions I've
seen - e.g. on ready meals - say "full power".
There
is the defrost
setting, but microwaves aren't very good at
defrosting as they don't
heat frozen water very well.

Mine thaws a frozen (already cooked) pizza
extremely
well, on full power. It turns a -20C pizza into a +40C pizza in
4
minutes.

Only a moron would cook a pizza in a microwave.

No, anyone who wants it ready more quickly. I buy the
frozen pizza in the supermarket, place it in the microwave, then
I
can eat it in 4 minutes.

Why would you think pizzas shouldn't go in
microwaves?!
Every foodstuff can be cooked in a microwave.

Because some of us are more interested in good
results than
in speed.

When I want pizza, I make the crust from scratch,
wait for
it to rise,
shape it, top it, and bake it at 550 F.

And your stomach is happy to wait?!

Sure. I plan ahead, and the pizza is ready when my
stomach is.

When I see food, I get hungry, it's a natural instinct.
Therefore I cannot prepare food without consuming half the
ingredients during the cooking operation.

Like a child.

If I want something fast, I have scrambled eggs.

I always want something fast, therefore I cook EVERYTHING
in a
microwave. Even things that say you have to use an oven, I
ignore it
and use the microwave, funnily enough it tastes nice and is
edible.

You have an undeveloped palate. Ready meals taste "nice"
because
they
hit your evolutionary preferences for fat, salt, and sugar.
The
manufacturers do that deliberately so you won't notice how
truly
wretched the underlying taste is.

Cindy Hamilton

It's still mostly wretched compared to real cooked food that
you
prepare
yourself. The idea that a pizza cooked in a microwave is
representative
of good pizza is absurd. The vast majority of the commercial
frozen pizzas
that I've seen do not say that they should be or can be
cooked in a
microwave.

They're ALREADY cooked, you're reheating them. A microwave is
perfectly capable of this. Even if you were actually cooking
them,
it's easy enough to change the power level accordingly. But
there's
no reason to reduce the maximum power available. When you just
want
to heat something rapidly, you need as much power as possible.

There are a few small pizzas designed for a microwave and they
have to play tricks, like have a piece of metalized cardboard
to
try to
crisp up the bottom. It doesn't work well and the one I
tried was
also
among the crappiest pizzas for other reasons too.

Again, it's ALREADY cooked and crisped. If you were actually
cooking
it, you can turn the grill or oven function on on your microwave
simultaneously.

IDK what kind of crap you have over there, but here, in the USA,
frozen
pizza is not cooked. The crust is dough that needs to be baked,
the cheese needs to be melted, etc. I suspect, as usual from past
experience, you're full of shit and pizza in the UK is similar.
And
the vast majority of pizza COOKING instructions say to put it in a
regular oven, not a microwave. For obvious reasons.

No, it's pre-cooked, why would I buy a pre-made pizza and still
have to
do the work myself? If I wanted a home made pizza, I'd start from
scratch.

https://groceries.asda.com/product/thin-crust-pizza/asda-mediterranean-vegetable-extra-thin-crispy-pizza/910000479897


No wonder you don't have a job. The cooking instructions in your
link
are to oven cook from frozen. None are given for a microwave. You
are
utterly brainless.

No, an utterly brainless person would think "I can't microwave that".
The pizza is ALREADY COOKED. All I do is warm it up to the desired
eating temperature.

Only an utterly brainless person who has never cooked pizza before
would
say that.

How old are? Can you read cooking instructions?

I tried to explain that to the birdbrain weeks ago. Same thing here in
the
USA. Frozen pizzas are not cooked, the vast majority rely on baking
them in a regular
oven. The crust is not baked, the cheese is not melted. Most of the
toppings
are already cooked, eg pepperoni, sausage. And the few small pizzas that
are made to be microwaved have a special metalized box to try to crisp
up the crust. It doesn't work very well and they are inferior to the
other frozen pizzas. The other 95% of the frozen
pizzas have instructions to use a conventional oven. If you tried a
microwave, instead of a brown, at least partially crispy crust, you;ll
get a soggy, steamed mess.

Why do you continue to remove the newsgroups from the crosspost? Is this
your first time on the internet? What do you think will happen when you
post that comment? Think of the people who are in one of the groups
other than alt.home.repair. They won't see it. You're wasting your
time. You're splitting the conversation into several sections and making
a thorough mess. Go read "Dummies Guide to the Internet".

You're the troll here. I can see I crosspost to 4 groups.


But you never say Trader4's post that he is replying to
because his system strips the newsgroups back to just one.

Quote:
You must be new here or a troll if you are unaware excessive crossposting
is against netiquette.


Nothing excessive about 4.

> I suspect you are too illiterate to read any book for dummies.

That's a pathetic excuse for a troll.

Commander Kinsey
Guest

Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:45 pm   



On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 18:52:48 -0000, Steven <shy543_at_gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:


"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
news:op.zvzb0pz8wdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 17:14:35 -0000, Fredxx <fredxx_at_nospam.com> wrote:

On 21/01/2019 16:04:44, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 15:36:46 -0000, Fredxx <fredxx_at_nospam.com> wrote:

On 21/01/2019 15:11:41, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 14:56:52 -0000, Fredxx <fredxx_at_nospam.com> wrote:

On 02/01/2019 16:51:07, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 16:43:20 -0000, trader_4 <trader4_at_optonline.net
wrote:

On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 10:58:16 AM UTC-5, Commander
Kinsey
wrote:
On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 13:26:42 -0000, trader_4
trader4_at_optonline.net
wrote:

On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 6:26:03 AM UTC-5,
angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Tuesday, January 1, 2019 at 3:58:10 PM UTC-5, Commander
Kinsey
wrote:
On Tue, 01 Jan 2019 13:00:40 -0000,
angelicapaganelli_at_yahoo.com> wrote:

On Monday, December 31, 2018 at 5:39:43 PM UTC-5, Commander
Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 31 Dec 2018 11:34:40 -0000,
angelicapaganelli_at_yahoo.com> wrote:

On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 3:24:35 PM UTC-5,
William
Gothberg wrote:
On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 20:20:18 -0000, trader_4
trader4_at_optonline.net> wrote:

On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 12:16:27 PM UTC-5,
William Gothberg wrote:
On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 10:21:46 -0000, Max Demian
max_demian_at_bigfoot.com> wrote:

On 30/12/2018 03:18, Bill Wright wrote:
On 29/12/2018 17:35, William Gothberg wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 17:15:05 -0000, Bill Wright
wrightsaerials_at_f2s.com> wrote:

On 29/12/2018 16:27, William Gothberg wrote:

It can take 5 minutes to warm something from
frozen to eating
temperature. I see no reason that couldn't be
made into 2 minutes.

Conduction

Which would be way faster if the water content
the
microwaves were
hitting was heated hotter.

But the difference in temp between the outside
and
the inside of the
food would be greater and this could result in
food
that was both over-
and under-cooked. This is why microwave ovens
have
low settings, so food
can cook slowly and evenly. Anyone who uses a
microwave a lot will be
well aware of this. For items where convection
can
assist conduction
higher power can be fine, but not for large solid
lumps of food.

I can't say many things I cook have large solid
lumps.
All ready meals are pretty much fluid, so convection and
conduction
can take place, and almost everything I cook is a dish of
something
which is only 2 inches deep.

I don't know what the low settings are for. All
the
instructions I've
seen - e.g. on ready meals - say "full power".
There
is the defrost
setting, but microwaves aren't very good at
defrosting as they don't
heat frozen water very well.

Mine thaws a frozen (already cooked) pizza extremely
well, on full power. It turns a -20C pizza into a +40C pizza in 4
minutes.

Only a moron would cook a pizza in a microwave.

No, anyone who wants it ready more quickly. I buy the
frozen pizza in the supermarket, place it in the microwave, then I
can eat it in 4 minutes.

Why would you think pizzas shouldn't go in microwaves?!
Every foodstuff can be cooked in a microwave.

Because some of us are more interested in good results
than
in speed.

When I want pizza, I make the crust from scratch, wait
for
it to rise,
shape it, top it, and bake it at 550 F.

And your stomach is happy to wait?!

Sure. I plan ahead, and the pizza is ready when my
stomach is.

When I see food, I get hungry, it's a natural instinct.
Therefore I cannot prepare food without consuming half the
ingredients during the cooking operation.

Like a child.

If I want something fast, I have scrambled eggs.

I always want something fast, therefore I cook EVERYTHING in
a
microwave. Even things that say you have to use an oven, I
ignore it
and use the microwave, funnily enough it tastes nice and is
edible.

You have an undeveloped palate. Ready meals taste "nice"
because
they
hit your evolutionary preferences for fat, salt, and sugar.
The
manufacturers do that deliberately so you won't notice how
truly
wretched the underlying taste is.

Cindy Hamilton

It's still mostly wretched compared to real cooked food that you
prepare
yourself. The idea that a pizza cooked in a microwave is
representative
of good pizza is absurd. The vast majority of the commercial
frozen pizzas
that I've seen do not say that they should be or can be cooked
in a
microwave.

They're ALREADY cooked, you're reheating them. A microwave is
perfectly capable of this. Even if you were actually cooking
them,
it's easy enough to change the power level accordingly. But
there's
no reason to reduce the maximum power available. When you just
want
to heat something rapidly, you need as much power as possible.

There are a few small pizzas designed for a microwave and they
have to play tricks, like have a piece of metalized cardboard to
try to
crisp up the bottom. It doesn't work well and the one I tried
was
also
among the crappiest pizzas for other reasons too.

Again, it's ALREADY cooked and crisped. If you were actually
cooking
it, you can turn the grill or oven function on on your microwave
simultaneously.

IDK what kind of crap you have over there, but here, in the USA,
frozen
pizza is not cooked. The crust is dough that needs to be baked,
the cheese needs to be melted, etc. I suspect, as usual from past
experience, you're full of shit and pizza in the UK is similar.
And
the vast majority of pizza COOKING instructions say to put it in a
regular oven, not a microwave. For obvious reasons.

No, it's pre-cooked, why would I buy a pre-made pizza and still
have to
do the work myself? If I wanted a home made pizza, I'd start from
scratch.
https://groceries.asda.com/product/thin-crust-pizza/asda-mediterranean-vegetable-extra-thin-crispy-pizza/910000479897



No wonder you don't have a job. The cooking instructions in your link
are to oven cook from frozen. None are given for a microwave. You are
utterly brainless.

No, an utterly brainless person would think "I can't microwave that".
The pizza is ALREADY COOKED. All I do is warm it up to the desired
eating temperature.

Only an utterly brainless person who has never cooked pizza before
would
say that.

How old are? Can you read cooking instructions?

What part of "ALREADY COOKED" didn't you understand?

The link you gave does not say already cooked. Are you illiterate?

It would seem you are. The first line, the nutrition part, says "Each
(ovenbaked) 1/2 pizza contains". Look at the word in brackets.
OVENBAKED. That means it's ALREADY BAKED.

It actually means that that's the nutritional breakdown
AFTER it has been oven baked by the purchaser.


Well I eat them a few times a week, and they're certainly cooked after microwaving. Anything can go in a microwave, don't believe the shit on the label.

Peeler
Guest

Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:45 pm   



On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 17:14:35 +0000, Fredxx, another mentally challenged,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blathered:

Quote:


What part of "ALREADY COOKED" didn't you understand?

The link you gave does not say already cooked. Are you illiterate?


Did he successfully bait you with a link, troll-feeding senile idiot? LOL

Peeler
Guest

Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:45 pm   



On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 06:05:27 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

Quote:

That's a pathetic excuse for a troll.


Pleased to see that you religiously KEEP reading all my posts, including
their sigs, senile Rot! <VBG>

--
Richard addressing Rot Speed:
"Shit you're thick/pathetic excuse for a troll."
MID: <ogoa38$pul$1_at_news.mixmin.net>

Peeler
Guest

Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:45 pm   



On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 05:52:48 +1100, Steven, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rot Speed, wrote:

Quote:
It would seem you are. The first line, the nutrition part, says "Each
(ovenbaked) 1/2 pizza contains". Look at the word in brackets.
OVENBAKED. That means it's ALREADY BAKED.

It actually means that that's the nutritional breakdown
AFTER it has been oven baked by the purchaser.


Afraid that you got killfiled again, you abnormal disgusting nym-shifting
senile Ozzie cretin? <BG>

--
Norman Wells addressing senile Rot:
"Ah, the voice of scum speaks."
MID: <g4t0jtFrknaU1_at_mid.individual.net>

Commander Kinsey
Guest

Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:45 pm   



On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 05:34:39 -0000, Daniel60 <daniel47_at_eternal-september.org> wrote:

Quote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 3/01/2019 3:51 AM:
On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 16:43:20 -0000, trader_4 <trader4_at_optonline.net
wrote:

Snip

IDK what kind of crap you have over there, but here, in the USA,
frozen pizza is not cooked. The crust is dough that needs to be
baked, the cheese needs to be melted, etc. I suspect, as usual
from past experience, you're full of shit and pizza in the UK is
similar. And the vast majority of pizza COOKING instructions say
to put it in a regular oven, not a microwave. For obvious
reasons.

No, it's pre-cooked, why would I buy a pre-made pizza and still have
to do the work myself? If I wanted a home made pizza, I'd start from
scratch.
https://groceries.asda.com/product/thin-crust-pizza/asda-mediterranean-vegetable-extra-thin-crispy-pizza/910000479897

Gee, you've got to read the small print, don't you??

That ad for a pizza quotes "Each (ovenbaked) 1/2 pizza contains" and
cites assorted Energy/Fats/Saturates/Sugars/Salt ratings.

Note "1/2 pizza", relying on us sharing it with our nearest and dearest!!

Here in Australia, you can pick up these pre-cooked pizza from your
local Supermarkets, but they can taste a bit bland/cardboardy. Or you
can pick-up/Home delivered from your favourite local Pizzeria. Or you
buy the makings and prepare your own ... even buying your very own Pizza
Oven ... if you're that determined!!


I just ain't that fussy. I eat for energy.

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