On 26/11/2018 08:46, already5chosen_at_yahoo.com wrote:
On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 3:04:29 AM UTC+2,
On Sunday, November 25, 2018 at 12:51:30 PM UTC-5,
On Sunday, November 25, 2018 at 7:28:13 PM UTC+2,
On Sunday, November 25, 2018 at 10:49:31 AM UTC-5,
On Sunday, November 25, 2018 at 4:28:42 PM UTC+2,
On Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 3:12:01 PM UTC-5,
On Saturday, November 10, 2018 at 7:39:55 PM UTC+2,
On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 8:01:22 PM UTC-5,
I hadn't heard of this company before. They seem to
be making a number of FPGA devices. Unfortunately
all the docs are in Chinese. Anyone know much about
Google can translate the web pages, but not the data
I'm a bit surprised at the lack of response...
hello... Is this mike on?
I would have thought FPGA people might get excited
about a 16 kLUT FPGA with an embedded MCU for under
$10. I am... sort of. But I haven't started my
Chinese lessons yet.
No, I am not excited. 10CL016 is 17 USD on digikey in
quantity of 1. Which probably means pretty close to 10
USD in quantity of few 1000s. And if the quantity is
lower than few 1000s then I probably don't care if it's
10 UDS or 17. 10CL016 comes with datasheet that I can
read and with development tools that I can trust.
If you propose me "40 kLUT for 5 USD" then there is a
chance that I can start to get excited.
BTW, as far as variable cost goes "40 kLUT for 5 USD" is
pretty easy at 28nm or better. The problem here is how do
you recover NRE. One have to sell more than 10M units.
Probably much more.
How about 10k LUTs for $3.29 @500, data sheet in English?
Is that at all interesting?
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Looks like a clone of EP4CE10 == 10CL010. It could be
interesting if they are compatible at bitstream level.
Otherwise - less so.
But despite practicality I wouldn't count a manufacturer that
managed to clone 9 years old Altera chip as new(ish) FPGA
Why is bitstream compatibility between two Asian company
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Since when Altera/Intel is Asian company?
Ok, it's official. We are not having the same conversation.
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I suspect, we are not belonging to the same branch of the
Multiverse. In our branch we have thingies called "web search
engines". The most popular of them is called "google". It's so
popular that its name became a verb.
What are you trying to prove.
You've said Altera/Intel is Asian company.
Reread the conversation. I never said that.
I didn't say that either. I wondered, if it is the same bit stream or not.
The chip is obviously the same design, but it is possible that they made small modification to cause bit stream to be incompatible. For example, for legal reasons.