New coding method for a state machine in groups in HDL

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Weng Tianxiang
Guest

Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:27 pm

Hi everyone,

Welcome all critics from ones who are interested in coding state machine that seems to many as matured, but can be further improved.

Here is a coding snippet for new method you can immediately understand what will happening for coding a state machine.

type State_Machine_t is (
First_group : (s1, s2, s3),
Second_Group : (s4, s5, s6),
Third_Group ; (s7, s8, s9)
);
signal State_Machine, State_Machine_Next : State_Machine_t ;

Here is only one sentence that tells you what you can do with new method:
Any state machine's states can be grouped together in coding in HDL at one's discretion and each group acts like a small state machine sharing a same initial state and all act together as coordinated as a full state machine.

Here is a famous paper about the method with 244 cites, using probability theory:
http://www.scarpaz.com/2100-papers/Low%20Power/00503933.pdf

But my patent describes a new simpler and perfect method using group theory:

Patent:10482208, "Coding and synthesizing a state machine in state groups"

https://patents.justia.com/search?q=tianxiang+weng

Thank KJ for helping me to improve the patent text.

Thank you.

Weng

Andy Bennet
Guest

Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:26 am

On 25/11/2019 21:27, Weng Tianxiang wrote:
Quote:
Hi everyone,

Welcome all critics from ones who are interested in coding state machine that seems to many as matured, but can be further improved.

Here is a coding snippet for new method you can immediately understand what will happening for coding a state machine.

type State_Machine_t is (
First_group : (s1, s2, s3),
Second_Group : (s4, s5, s6),
Third_Group ; (s7, s8, s9)
);
signal State_Machine, State_Machine_Next : State_Machine_t ;

Here is only one sentence that tells you what you can do with new method:
Any state machine's states can be grouped together in coding in HDL at one's discretion and each group acts like a small state machine sharing a same initial state and all act together as coordinated as a full state machine.

Here is a famous paper about the method with 244 cites, using probability theory:
http://www.scarpaz.com/2100-papers/Low%20Power/00503933.pdf

But my patent describes a new simpler and perfect method using group theory:

Patent:10482208, "Coding and synthesizing a state machine in state groups"

https://patents.justia.com/search?q=tianxiang+weng

Thank KJ for helping me to improve the patent text.

Thank you.

Weng

So presumably as you have it patented, you will be requiring money for
anyone to use it?

rob dickinson
Guest

Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:39 pm

On Monday, November 25, 2019 at 9:27:41 PM UTC, Weng Tianxiang wrote:
Quote:
Hi everyone,

Welcome all critics from ones who are interested in coding state machine that seems to many as matured, but can be further improved.

Here is a coding snippet for new method you can immediately understand what will happening for coding a state machine.

type State_Machine_t is (
First_group : (s1, s2, s3),
Second_Group : (s4, s5, s6),
Third_Group ; (s7, s8, s9)
);
signal State_Machine, State_Machine_Next : State_Machine_t ;

Here is only one sentence that tells you what you can do with new method:
Any state machine's states can be grouped together in coding in HDL at one's discretion and each group acts like a small state machine sharing a same initial state and all act together as coordinated as a full state machine.

Here is a famous paper about the method with 244 cites, using probability theory:
http://www.scarpaz.com/2100-papers/Low%20Power/00503933.pdf

But my patent describes a new simpler and perfect method using group theory:

Patent:10482208, "Coding and synthesizing a state machine in state groups"

https://patents.justia.com/search?q=tianxiang+weng

Thank KJ for helping me to improve the patent text.

Thank you.

Weng

Good luck proving that I have never done this before.

Michael Kellett
Guest

Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:59 pm

On 26/11/2019 12:39, rob dickinson wrote:
Quote:
On Monday, November 25, 2019 at 9:27:41 PM UTC, Weng Tianxiang wrote:
Hi everyone,

Welcome all critics from ones who are interested in coding state machine that seems to many as matured, but can be further improved.

Here is a coding snippet for new method you can immediately understand what will happening for coding a state machine.

type State_Machine_t is (
First_group : (s1, s2, s3),
Second_Group : (s4, s5, s6),
Third_Group ; (s7, s8, s9)
);
signal State_Machine, State_Machine_Next : State_Machine_t ;

Here is only one sentence that tells you what you can do with new method:
Any state machine's states can be grouped together in coding in HDL at one's discretion and each group acts like a small state machine sharing a same initial state and all act together as coordinated as a full state machine.

Here is a famous paper about the method with 244 cites, using probability theory:
http://www.scarpaz.com/2100-papers/Low%20Power/00503933.pdf

But my patent describes a new simpler and perfect method using group theory:

Patent:10482208, "Coding and synthesizing a state machine in state groups"

https://patents.justia.com/search?q=tianxiang+weng

Thank KJ for helping me to improve the patent text.

Thank you.

Weng

Good luck proving that I have never done this before.

The patent has been granted - so I think it may be up to you to prove
that you have :-)

(Would you have wanted to ?)

MK

Weng Tianxiang
Guest

Tue Nov 26, 2019 3:50 pm

On Tuesday, November 26, 2019 at 4:59:38 AM UTC-8, Michael Kellett wrote:
Quote:
On 26/11/2019 12:39, rob dickinson wrote:
On Monday, November 25, 2019 at 9:27:41 PM UTC, Weng Tianxiang wrote:
Hi everyone,

Welcome all critics from ones who are interested in coding state machine that seems to many as matured, but can be further improved.

Here is a coding snippet for new method you can immediately understand what will happening for coding a state machine.

type State_Machine_t is (
First_group : (s1, s2, s3),
Second_Group : (s4, s5, s6),
Third_Group ; (s7, s8, s9)
);
signal State_Machine, State_Machine_Next : State_Machine_t ;

Here is only one sentence that tells you what you can do with new method:
Any state machine's states can be grouped together in coding in HDL at one's discretion and each group acts like a small state machine sharing a same initial state and all act together as coordinated as a full state machine.

Here is a famous paper about the method with 244 cites, using probability theory:
http://www.scarpaz.com/2100-papers/Low%20Power/00503933.pdf

But my patent describes a new simpler and perfect method using group theory:

Patent:10482208, "Coding and synthesizing a state machine in state groups"

https://patents.justia.com/search?q=tianxiang+weng

Thank KJ for helping me to improve the patent text.

Thank you.

Weng

Good luck proving that I have never done this before.

The patent has been granted - so I think it may be up to you to prove
that you have :-)

(Would you have wanted to ?)

MK

Hi MK,
I don't understand your saying "I think it may be up to you to prove
> that you have".

It's USPTO official publication, what do I have to prove?

I have patented not the coding method, but on how to generate the specific circuit that can be grouped with easiest coding method on mind.

Andy,
As an independent inventor, I want to sell the patent to a company to get financial support for my next tens of new exciting inventions.

Weng

Rick C
Guest

Tue Nov 26, 2019 5:44 pm

On Tuesday, November 26, 2019 at 8:50:23 AM UTC-5, Weng Tianxiang wrote:
Quote:
On Tuesday, November 26, 2019 at 4:59:38 AM UTC-8, Michael Kellett wrote:
On 26/11/2019 12:39, rob dickinson wrote:
On Monday, November 25, 2019 at 9:27:41 PM UTC, Weng Tianxiang wrote:
Hi everyone,

Welcome all critics from ones who are interested in coding state machine that seems to many as matured, but can be further improved.

Here is a coding snippet for new method you can immediately understand what will happening for coding a state machine.

type State_Machine_t is (
First_group : (s1, s2, s3),
Second_Group : (s4, s5, s6),
Third_Group ; (s7, s8, s9)
);
signal State_Machine, State_Machine_Next : State_Machine_t ;

Here is only one sentence that tells you what you can do with new method:
Any state machine's states can be grouped together in coding in HDL at one's discretion and each group acts like a small state machine sharing a same initial state and all act together as coordinated as a full state machine.

Here is a famous paper about the method with 244 cites, using probability theory:
http://www.scarpaz.com/2100-papers/Low%20Power/00503933.pdf

But my patent describes a new simpler and perfect method using group theory:

Patent:10482208, "Coding and synthesizing a state machine in state groups"

https://patents.justia.com/search?q=tianxiang+weng

Thank KJ for helping me to improve the patent text.

Thank you.

Weng

Good luck proving that I have never done this before.

The patent has been granted - so I think it may be up to you to prove
that you have :-)

(Would you have wanted to ?)

MK

Hi MK,
I don't understand your saying "I think it may be up to you to prove
that you have".

It's USPTO official publication, what do I have to prove?

I have patented not the coding method, but on how to generate the specific circuit that can be grouped with easiest coding method on mind.

Andy,
As an independent inventor, I want to sell the patent to a company to get financial support for my next tens of new exciting inventions.

Weng

Please let us know when you have success in selling the patent. I assume you would go for a royalty rather than a single payment, or perhaps a combination.

How would you know if a company is using your patented idea in their tools? Enforcement might be the hard part. Heck, how do you know companies aren't using the idea already?

--

Rick C.

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Weng Tianxiang
Guest

Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:15 pm

On Tuesday, November 26, 2019 at 7:44:24 AM UTC-8, Rick C wrote:
Quote:
On Tuesday, November 26, 2019 at 8:50:23 AM UTC-5, Weng Tianxiang wrote:
On Tuesday, November 26, 2019 at 4:59:38 AM UTC-8, Michael Kellett wrote:
On 26/11/2019 12:39, rob dickinson wrote:
On Monday, November 25, 2019 at 9:27:41 PM UTC, Weng Tianxiang wrote:
Hi everyone,

Welcome all critics from ones who are interested in coding state machine that seems to many as matured, but can be further improved.

Here is a coding snippet for new method you can immediately understand what will happening for coding a state machine.

type State_Machine_t is (
First_group : (s1, s2, s3),
Second_Group : (s4, s5, s6),
Third_Group ; (s7, s8, s9)
);
signal State_Machine, State_Machine_Next : State_Machine_t ;

Here is only one sentence that tells you what you can do with new method:
Any state machine's states can be grouped together in coding in HDL at one's discretion and each group acts like a small state machine sharing a same initial state and all act together as coordinated as a full state machine.

Here is a famous paper about the method with 244 cites, using probability theory:
http://www.scarpaz.com/2100-papers/Low%20Power/00503933.pdf

But my patent describes a new simpler and perfect method using group theory:

Patent:10482208, "Coding and synthesizing a state machine in state groups"

https://patents.justia.com/search?q=tianxiang+weng

Thank KJ for helping me to improve the patent text.

Thank you.

Weng

Good luck proving that I have never done this before.

The patent has been granted - so I think it may be up to you to prove
that you have :-)

(Would you have wanted to ?)

MK

Hi MK,
I don't understand your saying "I think it may be up to you to prove
that you have".

It's USPTO official publication, what do I have to prove?

I have patented not the coding method, but on how to generate the specific circuit that can be grouped with easiest coding method on mind.

Andy,
As an independent inventor, I want to sell the patent to a company to get financial support for my next tens of new exciting inventions.

Weng

Please let us know when you have success in selling the patent. I assume you would go for a royalty rather than a single payment, or perhaps a combination.

How would you know if a company is using your patented idea in their tools? Enforcement might be the hard part. Heck, how do you know companies aren't using the idea already?

--

Rick C.

- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

Rick,

What I have done is trivial and not important, and I have patented them for living. What is important is what I am now developing and the final technology will be used by everyone, cellphones, computers and supercomputers, but not for industrial product controllers.

"Please let us know when you have success in selling the patent. " OK.

As an individual inventor, I have no resources to detect any situations as you described: How would you know if a company is using your patented idea in their tools?

What I want to do is to sell the patent once and get money to support my next project that will benefit everyone in the world.

Rick C
Guest

Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:03 pm

On Tuesday, November 26, 2019 at 1:15:54 PM UTC-5, Weng Tianxiang wrote:
Quote:
On Tuesday, November 26, 2019 at 7:44:24 AM UTC-8, Rick C wrote:
On Tuesday, November 26, 2019 at 8:50:23 AM UTC-5, Weng Tianxiang wrote:
On Tuesday, November 26, 2019 at 4:59:38 AM UTC-8, Michael Kellett wrote:
On 26/11/2019 12:39, rob dickinson wrote:
On Monday, November 25, 2019 at 9:27:41 PM UTC, Weng Tianxiang wrote:
Hi everyone,

Welcome all critics from ones who are interested in coding state machine that seems to many as matured, but can be further improved.

Here is a coding snippet for new method you can immediately understand what will happening for coding a state machine.

type State_Machine_t is (
First_group : (s1, s2, s3),
Second_Group : (s4, s5, s6),
Third_Group ; (s7, s8, s9)
);
signal State_Machine, State_Machine_Next : State_Machine_t ;

Here is only one sentence that tells you what you can do with new method:
Any state machine's states can be grouped together in coding in HDL at one's discretion and each group acts like a small state machine sharing a same initial state and all act together as coordinated as a full state machine.

Here is a famous paper about the method with 244 cites, using probability theory:
http://www.scarpaz.com/2100-papers/Low%20Power/00503933.pdf

But my patent describes a new simpler and perfect method using group theory:

Patent:10482208, "Coding and synthesizing a state machine in state groups"

https://patents.justia.com/search?q=tianxiang+weng

Thank KJ for helping me to improve the patent text.

Thank you.

Weng

Good luck proving that I have never done this before.

The patent has been granted - so I think it may be up to you to prove
that you have :-)

(Would you have wanted to ?)

MK

Hi MK,
I don't understand your saying "I think it may be up to you to prove
that you have".

It's USPTO official publication, what do I have to prove?

I have patented not the coding method, but on how to generate the specific circuit that can be grouped with easiest coding method on mind.

Andy,
As an independent inventor, I want to sell the patent to a company to get financial support for my next tens of new exciting inventions.

Weng

Please let us know when you have success in selling the patent. I assume you would go for a royalty rather than a single payment, or perhaps a combination.

How would you know if a company is using your patented idea in their tools? Enforcement might be the hard part. Heck, how do you know companies aren't using the idea already?

--

Rick C.

- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

Rick,

What I have done is trivial and not important, and I have patented them for living. What is important is what I am now developing and the final technology will be used by everyone, cellphones, computers and supercomputers, but not for industrial product controllers.

"Please let us know when you have success in selling the patent. " OK.

As an individual inventor, I have no resources to detect any situations as you described: How would you know if a company is using your patented idea in their tools?

What I want to do is to sell the patent once and get money to support my next project that will benefit everyone in the world.

If you don't have a way of knowing whether a company is using your patent, why would anyone pay you for it rather than just use it and wait for you to come after them for not paying royalties? That happens often even between large companies. Eventually a company will reverse design a product and find out their patent is infringed. But there has to be a way of knowing if the patent is infringed or not. Otherwise no one will pay for it.

--

Rick C.

+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

KJ
Guest

Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:15 pm

On Monday, November 25, 2019 at 4:27:41 PM UTC-5, Weng Tianxiang wrote:
Quote:
Here is a coding snippet for new method you can immediately understand what will happening for coding a state machine.

type State_Machine_t is (
First_group : (s1, s2, s3),
Second_Group : (s4, s5, s6),
Third_Group ; (s7, s8, s9)
);
signal State_Machine, State_Machine_Next : State_Machine_t ;

Here is only one sentence that tells you what you can do with new method:
Any state machine's states can be grouped together in coding in HDL at one's discretion and each group acts like a small state machine sharing a same initial state and all act together as coordinated as a full state machine.

KJ: And I suppose you think that this is new or novel or something (Hint: I do not)

Quote:
Andy,
As an independent inventor, I want to sell the patent to a company to get financial support for my next tens of new exciting inventions.

KJ: Current patents that have your name are all assigned only to you. Does that mean you have not sold any patents yet? When somebody does sell a patent, does the assignee have to get updated at USPTO as part of that sale?

Kevin Jennings

Michael Kellett
Guest

Wed Nov 27, 2019 11:42 am

On 26/11/2019 13:50, Weng Tianxiang wrote:
Quote:
On Tuesday, November 26, 2019 at 4:59:38 AM UTC-8, Michael Kellett wrote:
On 26/11/2019 12:39, rob dickinson wrote:
On Monday, November 25, 2019 at 9:27:41 PM UTC, Weng Tianxiang wrote:
Hi everyone,

Welcome all critics from ones who are interested in coding state machine that seems to many as matured, but can be further improved.

Here is a coding snippet for new method you can immediately understand what will happening for coding a state machine.

type State_Machine_t is (
First_group : (s1, s2, s3),
Second_Group : (s4, s5, s6),
Third_Group ; (s7, s8, s9)
);
signal State_Machine, State_Machine_Next : State_Machine_t ;

Here is only one sentence that tells you what you can do with new method:
Any state machine's states can be grouped together in coding in HDL at one's discretion and each group acts like a small state machine sharing a same initial state and all act together as coordinated as a full state machine.

Here is a famous paper about the method with 244 cites, using probability theory:
http://www.scarpaz.com/2100-papers/Low%20Power/00503933.pdf

But my patent describes a new simpler and perfect method using group theory:

Patent:10482208, "Coding and synthesizing a state machine in state groups"

https://patents.justia.com/search?q=tianxiang+weng

Thank KJ for helping me to improve the patent text.

Thank you.

Weng

Good luck proving that I have never done this before.

The patent has been granted - so I think it may be up to you to prove
that you have :-)

(Would you have wanted to ?)

MK

Hi MK,
I don't understand your saying "I think it may be up to you to prove
that you have".

It's USPTO official publication, what do I have to prove?

I have patented not the coding method, but on how to generate the specific circuit that can be grouped with easiest coding method on mind.

Andy,
As an independent inventor, I want to sell the patent to a company to get financial support for my next tens of new exciting inventions.

Weng

Strewth Weng !

Here you are patenting state machines and you don't seem to get news net
My comment was to Rob Dickinson, not to you.

MK

Michael Kellett
Guest

Wed Nov 27, 2019 11:47 am

On 26/11/2019 15:44, Rick C wrote:
Quote:
On Tuesday, November 26, 2019 at 8:50:23 AM UTC-5, Weng Tianxiang wrote:
On Tuesday, November 26, 2019 at 4:59:38 AM UTC-8, Michael Kellett wrote:
On 26/11/2019 12:39, rob dickinson wrote:
On Monday, November 25, 2019 at 9:27:41 PM UTC, Weng Tianxiang wrote:
Hi everyone,

Welcome all critics from ones who are interested in coding state machine that seems to many as matured, but can be further improved.

Here is a coding snippet for new method you can immediately understand what will happening for coding a state machine.

type State_Machine_t is (
First_group : (s1, s2, s3),
Second_Group : (s4, s5, s6),
Third_Group ; (s7, s8, s9)
);
signal State_Machine, State_Machine_Next : State_Machine_t ;

Here is only one sentence that tells you what you can do with new method:
Any state machine's states can be grouped together in coding in HDL at one's discretion and each group acts like a small state machine sharing a same initial state and all act together as coordinated as a full state machine.

Here is a famous paper about the method with 244 cites, using probability theory:
http://www.scarpaz.com/2100-papers/Low%20Power/00503933.pdf

But my patent describes a new simpler and perfect method using group theory:

Patent:10482208, "Coding and synthesizing a state machine in state groups"

https://patents.justia.com/search?q=tianxiang+weng

Thank KJ for helping me to improve the patent text.

Thank you.

Weng

Good luck proving that I have never done this before.

The patent has been granted - so I think it may be up to you to prove
that you have :-)

(Would you have wanted to ?)

MK

Hi MK,
I don't understand your saying "I think it may be up to you to prove
that you have".

It's USPTO official publication, what do I have to prove?

I have patented not the coding method, but on how to generate the specific circuit that can be grouped with easiest coding method on mind.

Andy,
As an independent inventor, I want to sell the patent to a company to get financial support for my next tens of new exciting inventions.

Weng

Please let us know when you have success in selling the patent. I assume you would go for a royalty rather than a single payment, or perhaps a combination.

How would you know if a company is using your patented idea in their tools? Enforcement might be the hard part. Heck, how do you know companies aren't using the idea already?

He may be able to sell it to an NPE, although they prefer to buy in bulk.
The way they operate doesn't rely on precise identification of infringement.

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/071515/who-are-patent-trolls-how-do-they-work.asp

Not that good an article but will give you pointers to follow if you are
really interested.

MK

Weng Tianxiang
Guest

Wed Nov 27, 2019 6:40 pm

Quote:
If you don't have a way of knowing whether a company is using your patent, why would anyone pay you for it rather than just use it and wait for you to come after them for not paying royalties? That happens often even between large companies. Eventually a company will reverse design a product and find out their patent is infringed. But there has to be a way of knowing if the patent is infringed or not. Otherwise no one will pay for it.

--

Rick C.

Rick,
I think I will have many many more patents in the future.

My strategy dealing with your infringing cases is very simple:
To any engineer who has solid evidence to prove in court that your current or previous employer has infringed my patents, please cooperate with my company as witness to suit the employer and he/she will get 20% of damaging penalty of court or one time compensation the employer will pay for previous infringement if he agrees to resolve the issue before law suit.

Weng

Rick C
Guest

Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:32 pm

On Wednesday, November 27, 2019 at 11:41:03 AM UTC-5, Weng Tianxiang wrote:
Quote:
If you don't have a way of knowing whether a company is using your patent, why would anyone pay you for it rather than just use it and wait for you to come after them for not paying royalties? That happens often even between large companies. Eventually a company will reverse design a product and find out their patent is infringed. But there has to be a way of knowing if the patent is infringed or not. Otherwise no one will pay for it.

--

Rick C.

Rick,
I think I will have many many more patents in the future.

My strategy dealing with your infringing cases is very simple:
To any engineer who has solid evidence to prove in court that your current or previous employer has infringed my patents, please cooperate with my company as witness to suit the employer and he/she will get 20% of damaging penalty of court or one time compensation the employer will pay for previous infringement if he agrees to resolve the issue before law suit.

Virtually all employees have to sign non-disclosure agreements these days which would prevent them from coming to you with any information about what the company was working on. If they come to you, they will be held liable for ALL costs the infringing company has to pay you... and all legal fees.

That might put a damper on their willingness to get 20% of what you make.

I think your main problem is what appears to be a total lack of exposure to the engineering work environment. You come up with lots of ideas, but don't seem to understand their utility or lack thereof. It appears that you don't understand the real issues that designers encounter. Designers are not mathematicians or logicians. They don't typically write research papers. They just get their work done.

--

Rick C.

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Weng Tianxiang
Guest

Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:03 pm

On Wednesday, November 27, 2019 at 9:32:56 AM UTC-8, Rick C wrote:
Quote:
On Wednesday, November 27, 2019 at 11:41:03 AM UTC-5, Weng Tianxiang wrote:
If you don't have a way of knowing whether a company is using your patent, why would anyone pay you for it rather than just use it and wait for you to come after them for not paying royalties? That happens often even between large companies. Eventually a company will reverse design a product and find out their patent is infringed. But there has to be a way of knowing if the patent is infringed or not. Otherwise no one will pay for it.

--

Rick C.

Rick,
I think I will have many many more patents in the future.

My strategy dealing with your infringing cases is very simple:
To any engineer who has solid evidence to prove in court that your current or previous employer has infringed my patents, please cooperate with my company as witness to suit the employer and he/she will get 20% of damaging penalty of court or one time compensation the employer will pay for previous infringement if he agrees to resolve the issue before law suit.

Virtually all employees have to sign non-disclosure agreements these days which would prevent them from coming to you with any information about what the company was working on. If they come to you, they will be held liable for ALL costs the infringing company has to pay you... and all legal fees..

That might put a damper on their willingness to get 20% of what you make.

I think your main problem is what appears to be a total lack of exposure to the engineering work environment. You come up with lots of ideas, but don't seem to understand their utility or lack thereof. It appears that you don't understand the real issues that designers encounter. Designers are not mathematicians or logicians. They don't typically write research papers. They just get their work done.

--

Rick C.

-- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
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Rick,

You are right in some points, but not all.

Court system has precedence on how it may work.

Chinese Huawei was suited by Cisco company for coping their manuals in their laboratory research department. The proof was provided by a white American engineer previously employed by Huawei. Huawei resolved the suit by paying \$500 million to Cosco and what the white American engineer got?

Did not he sign non-disclosure agreement before he joined the company?

Non-disclosure agreement does not shut your employees' mouth up totally, and in law scope it does not cover any illegal activities.

Of cause the employee who would cooperate with me, in most cases, would have left his company before any lawsuit.

Weng

Rick C
Guest

Wed Nov 27, 2019 11:03 pm

On Wednesday, November 27, 2019 at 1:03:15 PM UTC-5, Weng Tianxiang wrote:
Quote:
On Wednesday, November 27, 2019 at 9:32:56 AM UTC-8, Rick C wrote:
On Wednesday, November 27, 2019 at 11:41:03 AM UTC-5, Weng Tianxiang wrote:
If you don't have a way of knowing whether a company is using your patent, why would anyone pay you for it rather than just use it and wait for you to come after them for not paying royalties? That happens often even between large companies. Eventually a company will reverse design a product and find out their patent is infringed. But there has to be a way of knowing if the patent is infringed or not. Otherwise no one will pay for it.

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Rick C.

Rick,
I think I will have many many more patents in the future.

My strategy dealing with your infringing cases is very simple:
To any engineer who has solid evidence to prove in court that your current or previous employer has infringed my patents, please cooperate with my company as witness to suit the employer and he/she will get 20% of damaging penalty of court or one time compensation the employer will pay for previous infringement if he agrees to resolve the issue before law suit.

Virtually all employees have to sign non-disclosure agreements these days which would prevent them from coming to you with any information about what the company was working on. If they come to you, they will be held liable for ALL costs the infringing company has to pay you... and all legal fees.

That might put a damper on their willingness to get 20% of what you make.

I think your main problem is what appears to be a total lack of exposure to the engineering work environment. You come up with lots of ideas, but don't seem to understand their utility or lack thereof. It appears that you don't understand the real issues that designers encounter. Designers are not mathematicians or logicians. They don't typically write research papers. They just get their work done.

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Rick C.

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Rick,

You are right in some points, but not all.

Court system has precedence on how it may work.

Chinese Huawei was suited by Cisco company for coping their manuals in their laboratory research department. The proof was provided by a white American engineer previously employed by Huawei. Huawei resolved the suit by paying \$500 million to Cosco and what the white American engineer got?

Did not he sign non-disclosure agreement before he joined the company?

Non-disclosure agreement does not shut your employees' mouth up totally, and in law scope it does not cover any illegal activities.

Of cause the employee who would cooperate with me, in most cases, would have left his company before any lawsuit.

Weng

Leaving a company does not relieve a person of the responsibility of adhering to the non disclosure agreement. I can't attest to any particular case unless I have the details and there may be some cases where a company won't pursue the matter. But it does tend to be a huge impediment to employees and ex-employees from talking about work.

I stand my my previous statements.

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Rick C.

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