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qrk
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Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:49 pm
On Thu, 4 Feb 2010 17:53:13 -0600, "Jon Slaughter"
<Jon_Slaughter_at_Hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
Yeah, I know about the bad caps... some chinese company stole some formula
but forgot or missed one key component and made a bunch of bad caps...
I know about the ESR but I figured it shouldn't matter too much and seems to
work fine. The cap was getting hot by touch but I put a small fan over it
and it is pretty cool. This should work fine until the new MB arrives.
These are used switching power supplies. ESR matters a lot. The ripple
current in the capacitor is faily high and will heat up a capacitor if
the ESR is too high. You need to get good quality, low ESR capacitors.
Digi Key and Mouser have many to choose from. Most computer equipment
use poor quality or high ESR electrolytics to save a penny or two.
Since the caps will die after the warranty, they get to sell you
another product. I have fixed a handful of LCD monitors with bulging
capacitors over the past few years.
Jim Yanik
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Sat Feb 06, 2010 2:01 am
qrk <SpamTrap_at_spam.net> wrote in
news:09tom59rlgcg0c3gn9ihqunm38uiitfog8_at_4ax.com:
Quote:
On Thu, 4 Feb 2010 17:53:13 -0600, "Jon Slaughter"
Jon_Slaughter_at_Hotmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, I know about the bad caps... some chinese company stole some
formula but forgot or missed one key component and made a bunch of bad
caps...
I know about the ESR but I figured it shouldn't matter too much and
seems to work fine. The cap was getting hot by touch but I put a small
fan over it and it is pretty cool. This should work fine until the new
MB arrives.
These are used switching power supplies. ESR matters a lot. The ripple
current in the capacitor is faily high and will heat up a capacitor if
the ESR is too high. You need to get good quality, low ESR capacitors.
Digi Key and Mouser have many to choose from. Most computer equipment
use poor quality or high ESR electrolytics to save a penny or two.
Since the caps will die after the warranty, they get to sell you
another product. I have fixed a handful of LCD monitors with bulging
capacitors over the past few years.
eventually,the power supply controller will shut the PS down because of the
excess load from bad caps.First,you'll get the "burst" mode,as it tries to
restart again and again.
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com
Jon Slaughter
Guest
Sat Feb 06, 2010 3:17 am
Glenn Gundlach wrote:
Quote:
On Feb 4, 3:53 pm, "Jon Slaughter" <Jon_Slaugh...@Hotmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, I know about the bad caps... some chinese company stole some
formula but forgot or missed one key component and made a bunch of
bad caps...
I know about the ESR but I figured it shouldn't matter too much and
seems to work fine. The cap was getting hot by touch but I put a
small fan over it and it is pretty cool. This should work fine until
the new MB arrives.
If it didn't matter about ESR, why would the caps be built and
specified? They matter a lot as evidenced by your new ready to fail
overheating junky caps.
What you and other tards don't seem to get is that I have a replacement
board comming monday as I already stated. So what is the point of ordering
low ESR caps and paralleling them when I'm going to get a new board and
using one cap worked just fine. Sure it was getting hot but I put a fan over
it and it will do.
What part of "This should work fine until the new MB arrives" do you guys
not get?
Michael A. Terrell
Guest
Sat Feb 06, 2010 3:22 am
Jon Slaughter wrote:
Quote:
Glenn Gundlach wrote:
On Feb 4, 3:53 pm, "Jon Slaughter" <Jon_Slaugh...@Hotmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, I know about the bad caps... some chinese company stole some
formula but forgot or missed one key component and made a bunch of
bad caps...
I know about the ESR but I figured it shouldn't matter too much and
seems to work fine. The cap was getting hot by touch but I put a
small fan over it and it is pretty cool. This should work fine until
the new MB arrives.
If it didn't matter about ESR, why would the caps be built and
specified? They matter a lot as evidenced by your new ready to fail
overheating junky caps.
What you and other tards don't seem to get is that I have a replacement
board comming monday as I already stated. So what is the point of ordering
low ESR caps and paralleling them when I'm going to get a new board and
using one cap worked just fine. Sure it was getting hot but I put a fan over
it and it will do.
What part of "This should work fine until the new MB arrives" do you guys
not get?
What part of doing things right don't YOU get? Or do you do
everything half assed?
--
Greed is the root of all eBay.
Glenn Gundlach
Guest
Sat Feb 06, 2010 3:32 am
On Feb 4, 3:53 pm, "Jon Slaughter" <Jon_Slaugh...@Hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
Yeah, I know about the bad caps... some chinese company stole some formula
but forgot or missed one key component and made a bunch of bad caps...
I know about the ESR but I figured it shouldn't matter too much and seems to
work fine. The cap was getting hot by touch but I put a small fan over it
and it is pretty cool. This should work fine until the new MB arrives.
If it didn't matter about ESR, why would the caps be built and
specified? They matter a lot as evidenced by your new ready to fail
overheating junky caps.
G²
Jon Slaughter
Guest
Sat Feb 06, 2010 3:48 am
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Quote:
Jon Slaughter wrote:
Glenn Gundlach wrote:
On Feb 4, 3:53 pm, "Jon Slaughter" <Jon_Slaugh...@Hotmail.com
wrote:
Yeah, I know about the bad caps... some chinese company stole some
formula but forgot or missed one key component and made a bunch of
bad caps...
I know about the ESR but I figured it shouldn't matter too much and
seems to work fine. The cap was getting hot by touch but I put a
small fan over it and it is pretty cool. This should work fine
until the new MB arrives.
If it didn't matter about ESR, why would the caps be built and
specified? They matter a lot as evidenced by your new ready to fail
overheating junky caps.
What you and other tards don't seem to get is that I have a
replacement board comming monday as I already stated. So what is the
point of ordering low ESR caps and paralleling them when I'm going
to get a new board and using one cap worked just fine. Sure it was
getting hot but I put a fan over it and it will do.
What part of "This should work fine until the new MB arrives" do you
guys not get?
What part of doing things right don't YOU get? Or do you do
everything half assed?
Fuck You! Take your piece of shit ass off this thread. I have every right to
do it how I please. It's my shit and I can screw it up if I want and I don't
need some two bit engineer acting like he knows best!
Michael A. Terrell
Guest
Sat Feb 06, 2010 5:02 am
Jon Slaughter wrote:
Quote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Jon Slaughter wrote:
Glenn Gundlach wrote:
On Feb 4, 3:53 pm, "Jon Slaughter" <Jon_Slaugh...@Hotmail.com
wrote:
Yeah, I know about the bad caps... some chinese company stole some
formula but forgot or missed one key component and made a bunch of
bad caps...
I know about the ESR but I figured it shouldn't matter too much and
seems to work fine. The cap was getting hot by touch but I put a
small fan over it and it is pretty cool. This should work fine
until the new MB arrives.
If it didn't matter about ESR, why would the caps be built and
specified? They matter a lot as evidenced by your new ready to fail
overheating junky caps.
What you and other tards don't seem to get is that I have a
replacement board comming monday as I already stated. So what is the
point of ordering low ESR caps and paralleling them when I'm going
to get a new board and using one cap worked just fine. Sure it was
getting hot but I put a fan over it and it will do.
What part of "This should work fine until the new MB arrives" do you
guys not get?
What part of doing things right don't YOU get? Or do you do
everything half assed?
Fuck You! Take your piece of shit ass off this thread. I have every right to
do it how I please. It's my shit and I can screw it up if I want and I don't
need some two bit engineer acting like he knows best!
Yawn.
--
Greed is the root of all eBay.
Jamie
Guest
Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:14 pm
Jon Slaughter wrote:
Quote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Jon Slaughter wrote:
Glenn Gundlach wrote:
On Feb 4, 3:53 pm, "Jon Slaughter" <Jon_Slaugh...@Hotmail.com
wrote:
Yeah, I know about the bad caps... some chinese company stole some
formula but forgot or missed one key component and made a bunch of
bad caps...
I know about the ESR but I figured it shouldn't matter too much and
seems to work fine. The cap was getting hot by touch but I put a
small fan over it and it is pretty cool. This should work fine
until the new MB arrives.
If it didn't matter about ESR, why would the caps be built and
specified? They matter a lot as evidenced by your new ready to fail
overheating junky caps.
What you and other tards don't seem to get is that I have a
replacement board comming monday as I already stated. So what is the
point of ordering low ESR caps and paralleling them when I'm going
to get a new board and using one cap worked just fine. Sure it was
getting hot but I put a fan over it and it will do.
What part of "This should work fine until the new MB arrives" do you
guys not get?
What part of doing things right don't YOU get? Or do you do
everything half assed?
Fuck You! Take your piece of shit ass off this thread. I have every
right to do it how I please. It's my shit and I can screw it up if I
want and I don't need some two bit engineer acting like he knows best!
Now wait, he may be a 2 bit engineer (I have my doubts about the
engineering part) but, he most likely is using a 32 bit computer, that
makes him eligible for a total of 16 comments. Of course, if you want to
perform some ROR, ASR or logical masking, One can then reduce his
eligibility to make much fewer comments. Leaving out of course, any
carrier flags to prevent any credited points!
That was my one bit comment of the day and may the Bit flux muster be
with you.
Nico Coesel
Guest
Sat Feb 06, 2010 9:41 pm
"Jon Slaughter" <Jon_Slaughter_at_Hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
Glenn Gundlach wrote:
On Feb 4, 3:53 pm, "Jon Slaughter" <Jon_Slaugh...@Hotmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, I know about the bad caps... some chinese company stole some
formula but forgot or missed one key component and made a bunch of
bad caps...
I know about the ESR but I figured it shouldn't matter too much and
seems to work fine. The cap was getting hot by touch but I put a
small fan over it and it is pretty cool. This should work fine until
the new MB arrives.
If it didn't matter about ESR, why would the caps be built and
specified? They matter a lot as evidenced by your new ready to fail
overheating junky caps.
What you and other tards don't seem to get is that I have a replacement
board comming monday as I already stated. So what is the point of ordering
low ESR caps and paralleling them when I'm going to get a new board and
Whats the point of asking a question if the answer doesn't matter
anyhow...
--
Failure does not prove something is impossible, failure simply
indicates you are not using the right tools...
nico_at_nctdevpuntnl (punt=.)
--------------------------------------------------------------
Jon Slaughter
Guest
Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:43 pm
Nico Coesel wrote:
Quote:
"Jon Slaughter" <Jon_Slaughter_at_Hotmail.com> wrote:
Glenn Gundlach wrote:
On Feb 4, 3:53 pm, "Jon Slaughter" <Jon_Slaugh...@Hotmail.com
wrote:
Yeah, I know about the bad caps... some chinese company stole some
formula but forgot or missed one key component and made a bunch of
bad caps...
I know about the ESR but I figured it shouldn't matter too much and
seems to work fine. The cap was getting hot by touch but I put a
small fan over it and it is pretty cool. This should work fine
until the new MB arrives.
If it didn't matter about ESR, why would the caps be built and
specified? They matter a lot as evidenced by your new ready to fail
overheating junky caps.
What you and other tards don't seem to get is that I have a
replacement board comming monday as I already stated. So what is the
point of ordering low ESR caps and paralleling them when I'm going
to get a new board and
Whats the point of asking a question if the answer doesn't matter
anyhow...
Way to go to work on those obama points! Maybe one day one day you'll have
enough to be the official obama cocksucker?
Straw man, red herring, whatever it takes huh? Is that your method of
answering questions?
Maybe you should really ask yourself why you asked that question if my
response doesn't matter.
JosephKK
Guest
Sun Feb 07, 2010 4:56 am
On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 20:17:12 -0600, "Jon Slaughter" <Jon_Slaughter_at_Hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
Glenn Gundlach wrote:
On Feb 4, 3:53 pm, "Jon Slaughter" <Jon_Slaugh...@Hotmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, I know about the bad caps... some chinese company stole some
formula but forgot or missed one key component and made a bunch of
bad caps...
I know about the ESR but I figured it shouldn't matter too much and
seems to work fine. The cap was getting hot by touch but I put a
small fan over it and it is pretty cool. This should work fine until
the new MB arrives.
If it didn't matter about ESR, why would the caps be built and
specified? They matter a lot as evidenced by your new ready to fail
overheating junky caps.
What you and other tards don't seem to get is that I have a replacement
board comming monday as I already stated. So what is the point of ordering
low ESR caps and paralleling them when I'm going to get a new board and
using one cap worked just fine. Sure it was getting hot but I put a fan over
it and it will do.
What part of "This should work fine until the new MB arrives" do you guys
not get?
And you do not recognize that as hack technician way of getting things done?
Read also as "quick temporary fix", or "quick patch". Not really an enduring
solution.
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