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Cydrome Leader
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Sat Jun 12, 2010 7:36 pm   



I've been trying to locate info on a technique that was used (at least in
the US) for detecting ground faults in mining equipment.

the basic concept was to inject a signal into the power and look for it in
the ground. If it was detected there, you had a fault. The signal may have
been 800Hz.

Is anything like this still used?

Jamie
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Sat Jun 12, 2010 11:37 pm   



Cydrome Leader wrote:
Quote:
I've been trying to locate info on a technique that was used (at least in
the US) for detecting ground faults in mining equipment.

the basic concept was to inject a signal into the power and look for it in
the ground. If it was detected there, you had a fault. The signal may have
been 800Hz.

Is anything like this still used?


http://www.benderrelay.com/mining2.htm


Jamie
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Sat Jun 12, 2010 11:57 pm   



Cydrome Leader wrote:

Quote:
Jamie <jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1lpa__at_charter.net> wrote:

Cydrome Leader wrote:

I've been trying to locate info on a technique that was used (at least in
the US) for detecting ground faults in mining equipment.

the basic concept was to inject a signal into the power and look for it in
the ground. If it was detected there, you had a fault. The signal may have
been 800Hz.

Is anything like this still used?



http://www.benderrelay.com/mining2.htm


I just looked at the datasheets on these, and they seem to be "regular"
GFC detectors that null out current and any difference is assumed to be
leaking to ground, and not the mystery systems that adds a signal to the
power itself.
Yes, that is how most GFC's work because a ground and is supplied with

the line that can be used to off set the balance...

Any thing else, most likely is custom made..

If you want to modulate the line with 800 hz, you can do that with an
inline xformer at the generation end and some simple band pass detection
circuit on the equipment end..

Having something engineered for the mining industry comes with a large
liability. You may find it tough searching for engineers stepping up to
the plate.

Cydrome Leader
Guest

Sun Jun 13, 2010 1:40 am   



Jamie <jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1lpa__at_charter.net> wrote:
Quote:
Cydrome Leader wrote:
I've been trying to locate info on a technique that was used (at least in
the US) for detecting ground faults in mining equipment.

the basic concept was to inject a signal into the power and look for it in
the ground. If it was detected there, you had a fault. The signal may have
been 800Hz.

Is anything like this still used?


http://www.benderrelay.com/mining2.htm

I just looked at the datasheets on these, and they seem to be "regular"
GFC detectors that null out current and any difference is assumed to be
leaking to ground, and not the mystery systems that adds a signal to the
power itself.

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