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Mycelium
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Sat Aug 15, 2009 2:34 am   



On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 19:24:46 GMT, Rich Grise <richgrise_at_example.net>
wrote:

Quote:
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 18:15:02 +0000, jimp wrote:
In sci.physics Fester Bestertester <fbt_at_fbt.net> wrote:
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 02:46:19 -0700, Michael A. Terrell wrote
(in article <4A85326B.1A3672B4_at_earthlink.net>):

More important, what temperature destroys the sensor?

These are *non-contact* sensors. How can pointing it at an IR source from a
distance damage it?

It is going to depend on the sensor.

Eyeballs are non-contact sensors, try staring at the sun.

Your eyeballs have lenses, which focus the light/radiation onto a very
small spot on the retina - haven't you ever lit a piece of paper (or
ants!) on fire using a magnifying glass?

Do IR pyrometers have that kind of focus?

Thanks,
Rich

Pure optics. Take the field of view. Say you are looking at a 6 inch
spot.

That spot is focused down to what is typically a 2 mm resistor
bolometer sense element. It usually sits a couple mm down in the
"transistor can" under a germanium window or other such IR window media.

That 2mm spot has the entire "image" cast upon it. It is exactly like
when you put a pinhole in a box and look at the sun on the back wall of
the box. That image of the sun is a perfect casting of the actual image.

Same with IR. Instead of a CCD of whatever size like with video, the
resistor bolometer is only 2 mm square.

Just do not point your IR meter toward the sun. It will fry the sense
element.

Mycelium
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Sat Aug 15, 2009 2:37 am   



On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 19:45:02 GMT, jimp_at_specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

Quote:
In sci.physics Rich Grise <richgrise_at_example.net> wrote:
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 18:15:02 +0000, jimp wrote:
In sci.physics Fester Bestertester <fbt_at_fbt.net> wrote:
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 02:46:19 -0700, Michael A. Terrell wrote
(in article <4A85326B.1A3672B4_at_earthlink.net>):

More important, what temperature destroys the sensor?

These are *non-contact* sensors. How can pointing it at an IR source from a
distance damage it?

It is going to depend on the sensor.

Eyeballs are non-contact sensors, try staring at the sun.

Your eyeballs have lenses, which focus the light/radiation onto a very
small spot on the retina - haven't you ever lit a piece of paper (or
ants!) on fire using a magnifying glass?

Do IR pyrometers have that kind of focus?

Thanks,
Rich

Like I said, it depends.

Most instruments have a lens system.

Actually, the best instruments go straight from the primary mirror to
the sense element.

IR video has a lens system, and cheap IR has a fresnel <sp>, but most
radiate directly onto the sensor.

Most are set up like a reflector telescope.

Lens systems cut energy, raising the noise floor.

life imitates life
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Sat Aug 15, 2009 2:42 am   



On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 15:09:51 -0700, Gone Fishin' <gone_at_fishin.net> wrote:

Quote:
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:11:02 -0700, life imitates life wrote
(in article <3el6859itotge5n6vmjpo6t28dsgj9vl4n_at_4ax.com>):

The unit will usually switch to "off scale" indicator of some kind.
With a voltmeter, it is like "OV" for overvoltage. OT would be over temp,
but not all that intuitive, so it would probably flash off scale or
something.

You win the booby prize ("You may now choose your booby."). The display says
"OL" when the stovetop coil exceeds 500f.

So the limitation is in firmware. Damn!

Thanks for all who contributed.


Better not tell anyone here. It will ruin their claims that I am never
correct. Won't be the first time.

If you want to know who to filter, just filter all of the idiots that
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type in CMD click ok.. in the black box type IPCONFIG.
If your IP ADDRESS is a 192.168.x.x or 10.x.x.x then
you are already behind a router that may be built into the
modem.... in that case you'll just need a 10/100 hub
to connect both the computer and radio to the internet.
This is basic home networking.

Most modems will require a power down and power up
in order to talk to a router.

Quote:
I have a phone line that enters at one end of a
house and has a double plate for the usual 2 phone
connections in the room. I want to locate an
Internet radio near that plate and to have a DSL
connection there for that radio. In the next room,
about 16' away from the same radio, I have a
computer and I want it to use the DSL also.

An RJ45 Ethernet cable (usually about 4' to 5' in
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radio or to the computer. Is there a wiring
scheme that will work with one modem or are two
modems needed?

Thanks for the help.


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JD
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Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:59 am   



Thaaank you SomebodyHere :--)

nobodyhere_at_thisplace.com wrote:
Quote:
You might consider picking up a router. You'll
connect the single modem you have to the router,
then the router will connect both the computer and
internet radio. But, take a look at the ip address
that your computer thinks it has, (Start -> Run -
type in CMD click ok.. in the black box type IPCONFIG.
If your IP ADDRESS is a 192.168.x.x or 10.x.x.x then

Yes, I have the 192.168.......

Quote:
you are already behind a router that may be built into the
modem.... in that case you'll just need a 10/100 hub
to connect both the computer and radio to the internet.
This is basic home networking.

I prefer wired to wireless in routers. Could a
second DSL modem be used?
If not then, a wired router would be my choice. I
already use a firewall,
so would another one be needed?

Quote:
Most modems will require a power down and power up
in order to talk to a router.

I could probably handle that. You'll probably hear
a lot of screaming
if it doesn't work for me. ;-)

Thanks for your help.

Quote:
I have a phone line that enters at one end of a
house and has a double plate for the usual 2 phone
connections in the room. I want to locate an
Internet radio near that plate and to have a DSL
connection there for that radio. In the next room,
about 16' away from the same radio, I have a
computer and I want it to use the DSL also.

An RJ45 Ethernet cable (usually about 4' to 5' in
length) is needed to connect the DSL modem to the
radio or to the computer. Is there a wiring
scheme that will work with one modem or are two
modems needed?

Thanks for the help.


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