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Tue Feb 02, 2010 5:22 am   



In sci.physics Bret Cahill <BretCahill_at_peoplepc.com> wrote:
Quote:

Shine a 4 milliwatt 645 nm wavelength dollar store pet laser onto a
red reflector lens at night and it explodes into color.

Slender reflective fibers would easily reflect a relatively low power
satellite based laser a couple hundred miles back to the satellite and
show up on satellite imaging.  A very weak magnet on each fiber could
orient the fibers in specified directions with respect to the earth's
magnitic field it the time it would take to fall hundreds or thousands
of feet from a plane.

Wind and aerodynamics are much stronger forces than the Earth's magnetic
field.

And?

And in the real world a "very weak magnet" wouldn't do crap,

Have you even calculated the Reynolds number of such a fiber at
terminal velocity?

Irrelvant to the question at hand.

Which is what . . . low Reynolds number turbulence?

Nope, wrong again.

It was a _question_. You dodged the question.

Here, we'll try again:

Above you wrote:

"Wind and aerodynamics are much stronger forces than the Earth's
magnetic field."

Now answer this question: You really think the Reynolds number is
irrelevant to aerodynamics?

No, Reynolds number is not irrelevant to aerodynamics, however it IS
irrelevant to your lastes comic book wet dream.

Quote:
another high school drop out who needs to get back to reading her
Harliquin Romance novels.

You sure seem fixated on Harliquin Romance novels.


--
Jim Pennino

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Bret Cahill
Guest

Tue Feb 02, 2010 5:26 am   



On Feb 1, 1:38 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
Quote:
krw wrote:

On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 20:46:39 -0800 (PST), Bret Cahill
BretCah...@peoplepc.com> wrote:

So how much does it cost

Can you think of any commodity cheaper than glass slivers or fibers?

Yes.  Big talk.

Which is why we are still waiting for your spread sheet on why it
should be summarily dismissed.

Are you really this witless in real life or are you just pulling our
legs?

. . .

Why is it, that every science kook tries to let others
do the research??

If you aren't interested in science or engineering calculations feel
free to start a thread on your last Harlequin Romance Novel.

How are those Harlequin's doing for ya' Brett?

If you aren't interested in science or engineering calculations, in
other words, if you are interested in science and technology period,
feel free to start a thread on your last Harlequin Romance Novel.

 Your reading list, no.

This thread is for those interested in some _numbers_ on the

It certainly isn't.  You're here.

deployment of a satellite based laser system that tracks terrorists
hiding in caves by crop dusting large regions with reflectors.

No, you were discussing another of your wet dreams.  You even brought
up Harlequin novels.

If you are a moronic high school drop out rightard who flunked math
feel free to start a thread on some other issue, i.e. Harliquin
Romance novels or whatever girly books you read.

No Bret, you're the one who is infatuated with Harlequin romance
books.  They are about your speed, though.

   Is Bret still

.. . . still a possible defendant in your defamation suit?

You know, where you demonstrated you couldn't fake a science or tech
background and got your panties all knotted up over me for some
reason?


Bret Cahill

Bret Cahill
Guest

Tue Feb 02, 2010 5:36 am   



Quote:
If you are a moronic high school drop out rightard who flunked math
feel free to start a thread on some other issue, i.e. Harliquin
Romance novels or whatever girly books you read.

No Bret,

Denying reality will get you nowhere.

I'm responding to your crap,

No, you're denying the reality that you aren't functional enough to
fake a science or tech background.

In fact, you seem to have given up even trying.

.. . .

Quote:
Now if you want to discuss the cost of plastic micro reflectors, post
here.

Plastic isn't on-topic

The only issues that will be on topic for you are at
alt.basket.weaving or alt.harliquin.romance.

In addition to you being warned several times that you too stoopid to
comment on science or tech issues you have repeatedly demonstrated
that fact.

You are too witless to even post an original comeback.

Now go back to spree shooting or whatever rightards do for
entertainment.


Bret Cahill

Immortalista
Guest

Tue Feb 02, 2010 5:44 am   



On Jan 27, 9:52 am, Bret Cahill <Bret_E_Cah...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
Shine a 4 milliwatt 645 nm wavelength dollar store pet laser onto a
red reflector lens at night and it explodes into color.


Sure thing, next thing you know the stupid Americans will have to cut
their eduction and infrastructure expenditures to chase some guys
around in some caves with camels while China and India cover the debt.
I the rest of the world doesn't want to help Irag and Afghanistan why
should we?

Quote:
Slender reflective fibers would easily reflect a relatively low power
satellite based laser a couple hundred miles back to the satellite and
show up on satellite imaging.  A very weak magnet on each fiber could
orient the fibers in specified directions with respect to the earth's
magnitic field it the time it would take to fall hundreds or thousands
of feet from a plane.

It would be very difficult to tramp over the fibers without disturbing
the orientation.

When Al Quada tries a night time ambush, everyone on the planet knows
about it.

The mililary needs some material that can be crop dusted onto road
beds that can only be disturbed by digging and not by vehicle traffic..
  Ordinary traffic performs a certain amount of "gardening" on a dirt
road, meaning some of thetaggant_will_ be mixed into the roadbed
material. How deeply depends on the exact nature of the material (sand/
clay/organic dirt, salts, concrete, asphalt, etc.) the kind and degree
of traffic, the weather _and_ climate, and so on.

  Worst case you get washboarding which requires periodic repair,
meaning deeper penetration by thetaggant. It will however be more
evenly distributed than the sort of localized dugskullery you're
talking about.

  Hence the sort of disturbance due to traffic will be easily
differentiable from that due to digging.

The material must be deposited with a characteristic "thumbprint" that
can be identified with the appropriate sensors but cannot be
duplicated, i.e., it cannot be swept up and spread over a freshly
planted bomb.

This method wouldn't reveal the old bombs but it would make it easy to
spot where a roadbed was recently dug up.

  Just off the top of my head, how about microscopic polymer chips
like those used in dynamite. Rather than the complex layering used to
indicate batch numbers etc. it would be infused infused with an
additive which, when exposed to UV, fluoresces in the IR, not the
visible. If laid down by ground vehicle or say Predator or other drone
during low traffic periods it would have a fairly even characteristic
distribution, and any disturbance will be immediately visible by
inspection by personnel wearing IR goggles during the day, and at
night with IR goggles and the assistance of a UV lamp. Inspection
could also be done by suitably-equipped drones of course.

  Attempts to "sweep up" and use the dust to cover new bombs will not
replicate the dust distribution as laid down originally.

  Mark L. Fergerson


Michael A. Terrell
Guest

Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:52 am   



Bret Cahill wrote:
Quote:

On Feb 1, 1:38 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net
wrote:
krw wrote:

On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 20:46:39 -0800 (PST), Bret Cahill
BretCah...@peoplepc.com> wrote:

So how much does it cost

Can you think of any commodity cheaper than glass slivers or fibers?

Yes. Big talk.

Which is why we are still waiting for your spread sheet on why it
should be summarily dismissed.

Are you really this witless in real life or are you just pulling our
legs?

. . .

Why is it, that every science kook tries to let others
do the research??

If you aren't interested in science or engineering calculations feel
free to start a thread on your last Harlequin Romance Novel.

How are those Harlequin's doing for ya' Brett?

If you aren't interested in science or engineering calculations, in
other words, if you are interested in science and technology period,
feel free to start a thread on your last Harlequin Romance Novel.

Your reading list, no.

This thread is for those interested in some _numbers_ on the

It certainly isn't. You're here.

deployment of a satellite based laser system that tracks terrorists
hiding in caves by crop dusting large regions with reflectors.

No, you were discussing another of your wet dreams. You even brought
up Harlequin novels.

If you are a moronic high school drop out rightard who flunked math
feel free to start a thread on some other issue, i.e. Harliquin
Romance novels or whatever girly books you read.

No Bret, you're the one who is infatuated with Harlequin romance
books. They are about your speed, though.

Is Bret still

. . . still a possible defendant in your defamation suit?

You know, where you demonstrated you couldn't fake a science or tech
background and got your panties all knotted up over me for some
reason?


Yawn. Another drug induced fanatsy of yours?



--
Greed is the root of all eBay.

Bret Cahill
Guest

Tue Feb 02, 2010 5:24 pm   



Quote:
Shine a 4 milliwatt 645 nm wavelength dollar store pet laser onto a
red reflector lens at night and it explodes into color.

Slender reflective fibers would easily reflect a relatively low power
satellite based laser a couple hundred miles back to the satellite and
show up on satellite imaging.  A very weak magnet on each fiber could
orient the fibers in specified directions with respect to the earth's
magnitic field it the time it would take to fall hundreds or thousands
of feet from a plane.

Wind and aerodynamics are much stronger forces than the Earth's magnetic
field.

And?

And in the real world a "very weak magnet" wouldn't do crap,

Have you even calculated the Reynolds number of such a fiber at
terminal velocity?

Irrelvant to the question at hand.

Which is what . . . low Reynolds number turbulence?

Nope, wrong again.

It was a _question_.  You dodged the question.

Here, we'll try again:

Above you wrote:

"Wind and aerodynamics are much stronger forces than the Earth's
magnetic field."

Now answer this question:  You really think the Reynolds number is
irrelevant to aerodynamics?

No, Reynolds number is not irrelevant to aerodynamics,

Then why did you mention aerodynamics?

Face reality: Ain't no janitor who can clean up the poop _you_
smeared all over yourself.

Everyone knows you are an idiot for trying to fake a science
background.


Bret Cahill

Bret Cahill
Guest

Tue Feb 02, 2010 5:31 pm   



Quote:
Shine a 4 milliwatt 645 nm wavelength dollar store pet laser onto a
red reflector lens at night and it explodes into color.

Sure thing, next thing you know the stupid Americans will have to cut
their eduction and infrastructure expenditures to chase some guys
around in some caves with camels while China and India cover the debt.
I the rest of the world doesn't want to help Irag and Afghanistan why
should we?

The BushCo quagmires were losers from the very beginning, the last
desperate attempt of the Repugliar Party to cling to power through
jingoism.

In fact Cheney and Bush both knew their quagmires were losers, Cheney
on a youtube video the corp. media wanted to low profile.

This does _not_ mean it is easy to get out of these quagmires and it
does _not_ mean we cannot save lives and money with new, relatively
low cost technology.


Bret Cahill


Quote:
Slender reflective fibers would easily reflect a relatively low power
satellite based laser a couple hundred miles back to the satellite and
show up on satellite imaging.  A very weak magnet on each fiber could
orient the fibers in specified directions with respect to the earth's
magnitic field it the time it would take to fall hundreds or thousands
of feet from a plane.

It would be very difficult to tramp over the fibers without disturbing
the orientation.

When Al Quada tries a night time ambush, everyone on the planet knows
about it.

The mililary needs some material that can be crop dusted onto road
beds that can only be disturbed by digging and not by vehicle traffic.
  Ordinary traffic performs a certain amount of "gardening" on a dirt
road, meaning some of thetaggant_will_ be mixed into the roadbed
material. How deeply depends on the exact nature of the material (sand/
clay/organic dirt, salts, concrete, asphalt, etc.) the kind and degree
of traffic, the weather _and_ climate, and so on.

  Worst case you get washboarding which requires periodic repair,
meaning deeper penetration by thetaggant. It will however be more
evenly distributed than the sort of localized dugskullery you're
talking about.

  Hence the sort of disturbance due to traffic will be easily
differentiable from that due to digging.

The material must be deposited with a characteristic "thumbprint" that
can be identified with the appropriate sensors but cannot be
duplicated, i.e., it cannot be swept up and spread over a freshly
planted bomb.

This method wouldn't reveal the old bombs but it would make it easy to
spot where a roadbed was recently dug up.

  Just off the top of my head, how about microscopic polymer chips
like those used in dynamite. Rather than the complex layering used to
indicate batch numbers etc. it would be infused infused with an
additive which, when exposed to UV, fluoresces in the IR, not the
visible. If laid down by ground vehicle or say Predator or other drone
during low traffic periods it would have a fairly even characteristic
distribution, and any disturbance will be immediately visible by
inspection by personnel wearing IR goggles during the day, and at
night with IR goggles and the assistance of a UV lamp. Inspection
could also be done by suitably-equipped drones of course.

  Attempts to "sweep up" and use the dust to cover new bombs will not
replicate the dust distribution as laid down originally.

  Mark L. Fergerson- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Bret Cahill
Guest

Tue Feb 02, 2010 6:45 pm   



Quote:
So how much does it cost

Can you think of any commodity cheaper than glass slivers or fibers?

No answer?

.. . .


Quote:
Yawn.

Everyone _already_ knows science and technology bores your empty head.

Try commenting on this:

http://www.me-sensor.com/news/Archiv/2009-11-10-ILD1302/index.html

Or go back to posting on alt.harliquin.romance.


Bret Cahill

Bret Cahill
Guest

Tue Feb 02, 2010 6:50 pm   



Quote:
If you are a moronic high school drop out rightard who flunked math
feel free to start a thread on some other issue, i.e. Harliquin
Romance novels or whatever girly books you read.

No Bret,

Denying reality will get you nowhere.

I'm responding to your crap,

No, you're denying the reality that you aren't functional enough to
fake a science or tech background.

Unlike you, Cahill, I have no need to fake anything.

Then why aren't you commenting on and science or tech matters?

The only answer is you are a loser with no interest in science or tech
matters.

This is easy to prove:

Let's see if our loser - rightard can comment on this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=7H0K1k54t6A


Bret Cahill

Michael A. Terrell
Guest

Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:17 am   



Bret Cahill wrote:
Quote:

So how much does it cost

Can you think of any commodity cheaper than glass slivers or fibers?


Your harebrained ideas are worth far less.


Quote:
No answer?


You never have a valid answer, just pathetic ideas.
Quote:

. . .

Yawn.

Everyone _already_ knows science and technology bores your empty head.


No, what bores me are brain dead assholes with delusions of adequacy.


Quote:


What does that have to do with your harebrained idea? You know
nothing about how a laser is affected by the atmosphere. Also, if you
had read the web page for that link you would have seen that it is a
simple detector designed for SHORT DISTANCES, not thousands of miles.
There were no specifications as to sensitivity. It looks like a sensor
designed to detect levels or movements in industrial equipment at a few
feet. Years ago a high power laser was used to illuminate a spot on the
moon. By the time the beam reached the moon it had spread to about a one
mile diameter circle. Its reflection was barely detectable on earth.


BTW, 25 years ago there was a phrase when I built and maintained CATV
head ends: A 4 GHz TWT tube is worth <$1000 on the ground, and
Quote:
$1,000,000 in orbit. In other words, they hardware has to be space hardened, along with all the support hardware. Then you have to get it into orbit safely and still functioning. That multiples the cost by a factor of over 1000 to 1 when launched on a shared payload launch


Quote:
Or go back to posting on alt.harliquin.romance.


I've never been there so I'll leave it to you and the other girls who
are suffering from estrogen overload, in the secretarial pool.


Quote:
Bret Cahill


--
Greed is the root of all eBay.

Bret Cahill
Guest

Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:32 am   



Quote:
   Yawn.

Everyone _already_ knows science and technology bores your empty head.

   No,

Then start a thread on one of _your_ ideas.

You say you don't have any ideas?

Of course not! You are such a loser.

Quote:
what bores me are brain dead assholes with delusions of adequacy.

That's why you are so obese. You hate yourself and are so bored with
yourself you keep stuffing your face with food.

Even when you aren't hungry.

Quote:
Try commenting on this:

http://www.me-sensor.com/news/Archiv/2009-11-10-ILD1302/index.html

   What does that have to do with your harebrained idea?

You just proved you cannot make any intelligent comments on _any_
science or tech issues.

That's why you need to go back to reading Harliquin Romance novels.


Bret Cahill

Michael A. Terrell
Guest

Wed Feb 03, 2010 2:24 pm   



Bret Cahill wrote:
Quote:

Yawn.

Everyone _already_ knows science and technology bores your empty head.

No,

Then start a thread on one of _your_ ideas.


You wouldn't understand my ideas, moron. Do you know ANYTHING about
low noise RF design? Low phase noise frequency synthesizers used to
detect weak, deep space telemetry? Do you have any clue as to the
problems caused by phase noise? How about telling everyone what you
have to do to reduce spurs in the output, or how to keep the output
constant to less than a dB across a full octave?

How about building a UHF TV station, starting from an empty
building? Have you ever done anything other than masturbate while
trolling?


Quote:
You say you don't have any ideas?

Of course not! You are such a loser.


Sigh. Projecting, again? I worked in electronics for 44 years. I
served in the US Army as a broadcast engineer, owned an industrial
electronics repair business, then a computer store after I was no longer
able to clime a ladder. The last thing I did was work at Microdyne where
we built communications equipment for the aerospace industry. You
refuse to say what you do, or where you work, or have worked.


Quote:
what bores me are brain dead assholes with delusions of adequacy.

That's why you are so obese. You hate yourself and are so bored with
yourself you keep stuffing your face with food.


Yawn. Yes, I am overweight. I spent two years confined to my bed
before the VA decided that I was diabetic, and had high blood pressure.
It took another six months before I was able to function again. The VA
declared me 100% disabled two weeks after I had to apply and stated that
I will never be able to work again.

I will still be overweight if I wake up tomorrow, but you'll still be
brain dead.


Quote:
Even when you aren't hungry.


More bullshit. There are days that I have to force myself to eat, due
to the side effects of all my medication for diabetes, Diabetic
neuropathy and high blood pressure. If I don't, my blood sugar drops
and I could die. I usually have little or no appetite, and the
medication has destroyed the taste of most food to the point I don't
even want to eat. My diet was approved by a VA dietitian, and is under
1800 calories a day including any snacks. I have to watch everything,
and prepare 99% of my meals at home. That is about half of the calories
it was when I was working, and spent hours on my feet every day. Now
that I need a cane to walk, I can only spend about an hour a day on my
feet without getting pressure sores on my lower legs. Just wait till
you get older and see what is waiting for you. Old age isn't for
sissies, and you'll probably suck on the end of a pistol to kill
yourself. I'm a tough old bastard who enjoys the battle, even on the
days the medication makes me vomit. I'm a couple years from retirement
now, and I don't have anything else to do, other than point out what a
useless loser you are to everyone. You can snip all the evidence that
you are wrong, but you can't remove my messages.


Quote:
Try commenting on this:

http://www.me-sensor.com/news/Archiv/2009-11-10-ILD1302/index.html

What does that have to do with your harebrained idea?

You just proved you cannot make any intelligent comments on _any_
science or tech issues.


Sigh. You posted a link to some advertising blurb with no
specifications. It is as worthless as all your harebrained ideas. It
was created for a press release in a trade journal, probably for plant
maintenance types. Mostly poorly educated types who are too stupid to
find something on the internet without the thousand pages a month of
advertising bullshit they get in the mail, every month. Before the
internet, they had the Tomcat catalogs which took up three or four feet
of shelf space full of lists of companies that listed their product
lines and phone numbers to request OEM catalogs.

Quote:

That's why you need to go back to reading Harliquin Romance novels.


I've never read any of them, but you must spend all the money you
make from picking up aluminum cans on them.

Quote:
Bret Cahill, loser


--
Greed is the root of all eBay.

Bret Cahill
Guest

Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:15 pm   



Quote:
   Yawn.

Everyone _already_ knows science and technology bores your empty head.

   No,

Then start a thread on one of _your_ ideas.

   You wouldn't understand my ideas,

Does the _patent_ office understand your ideas?

Face reality: You cannot bs your way out of a wet paper bag.

.. . .

Quote:
 I worked in electronics for 44 years.  

And you _still_ have nothing to show for your work?

You are more pitiful than previously thought.

.. . .


Quote:
what bores me are brain dead assholes with delusions of adequacy.

That's why you are so obese.  You hate yourself and are so bored with
yourself you keep stuffing your face with food.

   Yawn. Yes, I am overweight.

1. You eat when you aren't hungry.

2. You post to tech threads which do not interest you.

You've lost your freedom, buddy.

You have a _political_ problem.

.. . .

Quote:
That's why you need to go back to reading Harliquin Romance novels.

   I've never read any of them

Try alt.foods


Bret Cahill

Bret Cahill
Guest

Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:26 pm   



Quote:
Yawn.

Everyone _already_ knows science and technology bores your empty head.

No,

Then start a thread on one of _your_ ideas.
You wouldn't understand my ideas,

Does the _patent_ office understand your ideas?

Face reality: You cannot bs your way out of a wet paper bag.


.. . .


Quote:
I worked in electronics for 44 years.

And you _still_ have nothing to show for your work?

You are more pitiful than previously thought.

.. . .


Quote:
what bores me are brain dead assholes with delusions of adequacy.
That's why you are so obese. You hate yourself and are so bored with
yourself you keep stuffing your face with food.
Yawn. Yes, I am overweight.


1. You eat when you aren't hungry.

2. You post to tech threads which do not interest you.

You've lost your freedom, buddy.

You have a _political_ problem.

.. . .


Quote:
That's why you need to go back to reading Harliquin Romance novels.

I've never read any of them

Try alt.foods


Bret Cahill

Michael A. Terrell
Guest

Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:37 pm   



Bret Cahill wrote:
Quote:

Yawn.

Everyone _already_ knows science and technology bores your empty head.

No,

Then start a thread on one of _your_ ideas.
You wouldn't understand my ideas,

Does the _patent_ office understand your ideas?

Face reality: You cannot bs your way out of a wet paper bag.

. . .

I worked in electronics for 44 years.

And you _still_ have nothing to show for your work?

You are more pitiful than previously thought.

. . .

what bores me are brain dead assholes with delusions of adequacy.
That's why you are so obese. You hate yourself and are so bored with
yourself you keep stuffing your face with food.
Yawn. Yes, I am overweight.

1. You eat when you aren't hungry.

2. You post to tech threads which do not interest you.

You've lost your freedom, buddy.

You have a _political_ problem.

. . .

That's why you need to go back to reading Harliquin Romance novels.

I've never read any of them

Try alt.foods


Try reality.



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