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Jim Thompson
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Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:27 pm   



On my Lenovo/Thinkpad X61s the Esc key is directly above the F1 key.

Unless I'm looking directly at it I'm constantly bumping the F1 key when I
reach for Esc.

Any way to reassign F1 so that it does nothing unless "helped" with extra
keys, like Ctrl-Alt, or whatever.

Or maybe stuff some cardboard under it ?Smile

...Jim Thompson
--
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Winston
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Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:40 pm   



Jim Thompson wrote:
Quote:
On my Lenovo/Thinkpad X61s the Esc key is directly above the F1 key.

Unless I'm looking directly at it I'm constantly bumping the F1 key when I
reach for Esc.

Any way to reassign F1 so that it does nothing unless "helped" with extra
keys, like Ctrl-Alt, or whatever.

Or maybe stuff some cardboard under it ?Smile

Later versions of the BIOS on some models apparently allows remapping.

"The bios swap for the function and ctrl keys is now implemented by Lenovo!
If you have a newer Lenovo laptop (mine is a thinkpad x201), you can find
the option to switch them under the "configure keyboard and mouse" options.
(For my laptop, I access the Bios by pressing the blue "ThinkVantage"
button while the computer is booting up).

http://superuser.com/questions/49412/swapping-function-fn-and-control-ctrl-keys-on-lenovo-thinkpad-w500

--Winston

JW
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Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:52 pm   



On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 07:27:24 -0700 Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon_at_On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote in Message id:
<n37li71sbbmqr16spticdv5mt58q71lvi4_at_4ax.com>:

Quote:
On my Lenovo/Thinkpad X61s the Esc key is directly above the F1 key.

Unless I'm looking directly at it I'm constantly bumping the F1 key when I
reach for Esc.

Any way to reassign F1 so that it does nothing unless "helped" with extra
keys, like Ctrl-Alt, or whatever.

Or maybe stuff some cardboard under it ?Smile

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.usnetizen.com%2Ffix_capslock.php

JW
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Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:54 pm   



On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 07:27:24 -0700 Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon_at_On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote in Message id:
<n37li71sbbmqr16spticdv5mt58q71lvi4_at_4ax.com>:

Quote:
On my Lenovo/Thinkpad X61s the Esc key is directly above the F1 key.

Unless I'm looking directly at it I'm constantly bumping the F1 key when I
reach for Esc.

Any way to reassign F1 so that it does nothing unless "helped" with extra
keys, like Ctrl-Alt, or whatever.

Or maybe stuff some cardboard under it ?:-)

...Jim Thompson

Damn. Screwed that last one up.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Remap+CapsLock+Key+or+any+Key

Jim Thompson
Guest

Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:13 pm   



On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 09:54:39 -0500, JW <none_at_dev.null> wrote:

Quote:
On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 07:27:24 -0700 Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon_at_On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote in Message id:
n37li71sbbmqr16spticdv5mt58q71lvi4_at_4ax.com>:

On my Lenovo/Thinkpad X61s the Esc key is directly above the F1 key.

Unless I'm looking directly at it I'm constantly bumping the F1 key when I
reach for Esc.

Any way to reassign F1 so that it does nothing unless "helped" with extra
keys, like Ctrl-Alt, or whatever.

Or maybe stuff some cardboard under it ?:-)

...Jim Thompson

Damn. Screwed that last one up.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Remap+CapsLock+Key+or+any+Key

Thanks, JW, looks like a winner!

...Jim Thompson
--
[On the Road, in New York]

| James E.Thompson, CTO | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | |
| Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

John G
Guest

Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:39 pm   



Winston was thinking very hard :
Quote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
On my Lenovo/Thinkpad X61s the Esc key is directly above the F1 key.

Unless I'm looking directly at it I'm constantly bumping the F1 key when I
reach for Esc.

Any way to reassign F1 so that it does nothing unless "helped" with extra
keys, like Ctrl-Alt, or whatever.

Or maybe stuff some cardboard under it ?:-)

Later versions of the BIOS on some models apparently allows remapping.

It was possible to remap any key on the original IBM PC XT keyboard.
But that was 30 years ago and I have not needed to do it much in recent
years so do not know the current position.

It was easier to eventually accept what there was than try and keep to
older ways Wink
Quote:

"The bios swap for the function and ctrl keys is now implemented by Lenovo!
If you have a newer Lenovo laptop (mine is a thinkpad x201), you can find
the option to switch them under the "configure keyboard and mouse" options.
(For my laptop, I access the Bios by pressing the blue "ThinkVantage"
button while the computer is booting up).

http://superuser.com/questions/49412/swapping-function-fn-and-control-ctrl-keys-on-lenovo-thinkpad-w500

--Winston

--
John G

Jamie
Guest

Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:21 am   



Jim Thompson wrote:

Quote:
On my Lenovo/Thinkpad X61s the Esc key is directly above the F1 key.

Unless I'm looking directly at it I'm constantly bumping the F1 key when I
reach for Esc.

Any way to reassign F1 so that it does nothing unless "helped" with extra
keys, like Ctrl-Alt, or whatever.

Or maybe stuff some cardboard under it ?:-)

...Jim Thompson
Get yourself a USB or wireless keyboard that fits your fancy..


http://www.dinodirect.com/keyboard-computer-usb-illuminated-ku-0533.html

Jamie

Ralph Barone
Guest

Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:33 am   



Winston <Winston_at_Bigbrother.net> wrote:
Quote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
On my Lenovo/Thinkpad X61s the Esc key is directly above the F1 key.

Unless I'm looking directly at it I'm constantly bumping the F1 key when I
reach for Esc.

Any way to reassign F1 so that it does nothing unless "helped" with extra
keys, like Ctrl-Alt, or whatever.

Or maybe stuff some cardboard under it ?:-)

Later versions of the BIOS on some models apparently allows remapping.

"The bios swap for the function and ctrl keys is now implemented by Lenovo!
If you have a newer Lenovo laptop (mine is a thinkpad x201), you can find
the option to switch them under the "configure keyboard and mouse" options.
(For my laptop, I access the Bios by pressing the blue "ThinkVantage"
button while the computer is booting up).

http://superuser.com/questions/49412/swapping-function-fn-and-control-ctrl-keys-on-lenovo-thinkpad-w500

--Winston

Just pop the key cap off.

TunnelRat
Guest

Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:57 am   



On Fri, 03 Feb 2012 02:33:52 GMT, Ralph Barone
<address_is_at_invalid.invalid> wrote:

Quote:
Winston <Winston_at_Bigbrother.net> wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
On my Lenovo/Thinkpad X61s the Esc key is directly above the F1 key.

Unless I'm looking directly at it I'm constantly bumping the F1 key when I
reach for Esc.

Any way to reassign F1 so that it does nothing unless "helped" with extra
keys, like Ctrl-Alt, or whatever.

Or maybe stuff some cardboard under it ?:-)

Later versions of the BIOS on some models apparently allows remapping.

"The bios swap for the function and ctrl keys is now implemented by Lenovo!
If you have a newer Lenovo laptop (mine is a thinkpad x201), you can find
the option to switch them under the "configure keyboard and mouse" options.
(For my laptop, I access the Bios by pressing the blue "ThinkVantage"
button while the computer is booting up).

http://superuser.com/questions/49412/swapping-function-fn-and-control-ctrl-keys-on-lenovo-thinkpad-w500

--Winston

Just pop the key cap off.

Good one.

Another is simply "presence of mind whilst typing". And since it is an
other than normally struck key, when one does hit it, one would think one
could do so cleanly...

...The mean old fart must still be drunk. Any monkey can hit the key
he desires to hit. Maybe his 'better hag' is haggling with his dick...
and a pair of tweezers.

Joerg
Guest

Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:02 pm   



Jim Thompson wrote:
Quote:
On my Lenovo/Thinkpad X61s the Esc key is directly above the F1 key.

Unless I'm looking directly at it I'm constantly bumping the F1 key when I
reach for Esc.

Any way to reassign F1 so that it does nothing unless "helped" with extra
keys, like Ctrl-Alt, or whatever.

Or maybe stuff some cardboard under it ?Smile
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


You got it!

Guess how I sometimes disable that dreaded caps lock key ...

True Arizonians probably do it the classic way: Get 9mm Glock out of
drawer, aim at F1 key ... *BANG* ... and it's fixed :-)

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

Joerg
Guest

Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:26 pm   



Ralph Barone wrote:
Quote:
Winston <Winston_at_Bigbrother.net> wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
On my Lenovo/Thinkpad X61s the Esc key is directly above the F1 key.

Unless I'm looking directly at it I'm constantly bumping the F1 key when I
reach for Esc.

Any way to reassign F1 so that it does nothing unless "helped" with extra
keys, like Ctrl-Alt, or whatever.

Or maybe stuff some cardboard under it ?Smile
Later versions of the BIOS on some models apparently allows remapping.

"The bios swap for the function and ctrl keys is now implemented by Lenovo!
If you have a newer Lenovo laptop (mine is a thinkpad x201), you can find
the option to switch them under the "configure keyboard and mouse" options.
(For my laptop, I access the Bios by pressing the blue "ThinkVantage"
button while the computer is booting up).

http://superuser.com/questions/49412/swapping-function-fn-and-control-ctrl-keys-on-lenovo-thinkpad-w500

--Winston

Just pop the key cap off.


Might be a wee problem when you need F1. Better: Take a piece of
cardboard, bend three times, slide over F1 key like a sawed-off chimney
.... done.

Sometimes low-tech solutions are the ticket.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

Jim Thompson
Guest

Sat Feb 04, 2012 1:15 am   



On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 07:27:24 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon_at_On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

Quote:
On my Lenovo/Thinkpad X61s the Esc key is directly above the F1 key.

Unless I'm looking directly at it I'm constantly bumping the F1 key when I
reach for Esc.

Any way to reassign F1 so that it does nothing unless "helped" with extra
keys, like Ctrl-Alt, or whatever.

Or maybe stuff some cardboard under it ?:-)

...Jim Thompson

Made a Macro in MacroExpress... assigned F1 as "blank" when PSpice Schematics
is running. Success! Bump F1 while reaching for Esc... nada Wink

...Jim Thompson
--
[On the Road]

| James E.Thompson, CTO | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | |
| Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Michael A. Terrell
Guest

Sat Feb 04, 2012 1:33 am   



Jim Thompson wrote:
Quote:

On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 07:27:24 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon_at_On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On my Lenovo/Thinkpad X61s the Esc key is directly above the F1 key.

Unless I'm looking directly at it I'm constantly bumping the F1 key when I
reach for Esc.

Any way to reassign F1 so that it does nothing unless "helped" with extra
keys, like Ctrl-Alt, or whatever.

Or maybe stuff some cardboard under it ?:-)

...Jim Thompson

Made a Macro in MacroExpress... assigned F1 as "blank" when PSpice Schematics
is running. Success! Bump F1 while reaching for Esc... nada Wink


You should have made it 'CTL G' ;-)


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.

Jim Thompson
Guest

Sat Feb 04, 2012 1:46 am   



On Fri, 03 Feb 2012 19:33:14 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net> wrote:

Quote:

Jim Thompson wrote:

On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 07:27:24 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon_at_On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On my Lenovo/Thinkpad X61s the Esc key is directly above the F1 key.

Unless I'm looking directly at it I'm constantly bumping the F1 key when I
reach for Esc.

Any way to reassign F1 so that it does nothing unless "helped" with extra
keys, like Ctrl-Alt, or whatever.

Or maybe stuff some cardboard under it ?:-)

...Jim Thompson

Made a Macro in MacroExpress... assigned F1 as "blank" when PSpice Schematics
is running. Success! Bump F1 while reaching for Esc... nada ;-)


You should have made it 'CTL G' Wink

Am I remembering correctly... "bell" ?Smile

...Jim Thompson
--
[On the Road]

| James E.Thompson, CTO | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | |
| Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Alan W
Guest

Sat Feb 04, 2012 2:19 am   



On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 07:27:24 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon_at_On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

Quote:
On my Lenovo/Thinkpad X61s the Esc key is directly above the F1 key.

Unless I'm looking directly at it I'm constantly bumping the F1 key when I
reach for Esc.

Any way to reassign F1 so that it does nothing unless "helped" with extra
keys, like Ctrl-Alt, or whatever.

Or maybe stuff some cardboard under it ?:-)

...Jim Thompson

I had a similar problem with my TP R61i, kept hitting the page back &
page forward keys instead of the left & right arrows just below them.

If you're running Win XP or 2000, there's a built-in key remapping
function. Check out:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/gg463447

You have to find the right key codes (Google is your friend here Smile )
and it just remaps raw keys, so I don't think you can add Ctrl/Alt/etc
as a "shift" key, but it's worked well for me so far.

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