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bitrex
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Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:45 pm   



<https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/18/asia/kyoto-animation-fire-intl-hnk/index.html>

Seems like a very high death toll for that kind of office structure for
what sounds like a clumsy arson attempt with a bit of gasoline. Must
have created a very fast-moving fire that blocked the only exit on the
ground floor and trapped people on the upper floors? Doesn't look like
there's any other way out except jumping from up there.

Doesn't look like any fire suppression system to speak of, either. Could
have probably survived by escaping to the roof, roof door likely locked
to prevent suicide attempts


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Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:45 am   



On Thursday, July 18, 2019 at 1:00:49 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
Quote:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/18/asia/kyoto-animation-fire-intl-hnk/index.html

Seems like a very high death toll for that kind of office structure for
what sounds like a clumsy arson attempt with a bit of gasoline. Must
have created a very fast-moving fire that blocked the only exit on the
ground floor and trapped people on the upper floors? Doesn't look like
there's any other way out except jumping from up there.

Doesn't look like any fire suppression system to speak of, either. Could
have probably survived by escaping to the roof, roof door likely locked
to prevent suicide attempts


Mass murderers are almost always executed.

The criminal judicial system in Japan has no provisions for a sentence of life without parole. And it's difficult to impossible to plead insanity there:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6224490/

The method of execution is hanging, and it's carried out by ordinary prison guards:
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2018/09/12/national/social-issues/cruel-secretive-politically-popular-japans-death-penalty/#.XTD6jOhKgdU

bitrex
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Fri Jul 19, 2019 1:45 am   



On 7/18/19 7:05 PM, bloggs.fredbloggs.fred_at_gmail.com wrote:
Quote:
On Thursday, July 18, 2019 at 1:00:49 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/18/asia/kyoto-animation-fire-intl-hnk/index.html

Seems like a very high death toll for that kind of office structure for
what sounds like a clumsy arson attempt with a bit of gasoline. Must
have created a very fast-moving fire that blocked the only exit on the
ground floor and trapped people on the upper floors? Doesn't look like
there's any other way out except jumping from up there.

Doesn't look like any fire suppression system to speak of, either. Could
have probably survived by escaping to the roof, roof door likely locked
to prevent suicide attempts


Mass murderers are almost always executed.

The criminal judicial system in Japan has no provisions for a sentence of life without parole. And it's difficult to impossible to plead insanity there:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6224490/

The method of execution is hanging, and it's carried out by ordinary prison guards:
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2018/09/12/national/social-issues/cruel-secretive-politically-popular-japans-death-penalty/#.XTD6jOhKgdU


Yes, it's even a plot point in the Japanese series "Million Yen Women";
the main character is a young novelist whose father is on death row for
murdering a police officer, and he visits him there.

The son of the perpetrator also assists in the household care/living
expenses of the slain police officer's mother, some kind of
family-shame-penance-thing which may or may not actually be a real
custom, or just fictional situation, I don't know.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Million_Yen_Women>

Clifford Heath
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Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:45 am   



On 19/7/19 9:05 am, bloggs.fredbloggs.fred_at_gmail.com wrote:
Quote:
And it's difficult to impossible to plead insanity there:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6224490/


If the insanity is incurable, there's no reason it should mitigate. We
are right to neutralise harmful things. It's a cost minimisation
activity, like most criminal penalties (so mis-named!)

bitrex
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Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:45 am   



On 7/21/19 7:37 PM, Clifford Heath wrote:
Quote:
On 19/7/19 9:05 am, bloggs.fredbloggs.fred_at_gmail.com wrote:
And it's difficult to impossible to plead insanity there:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6224490/

If the insanity is incurable, there's no reason it should mitigate. We
are right to neutralise harmful things. It's a cost minimisation
activity, like most criminal penalties (so mis-named!)


Beep boop, I am Clifford of Borg. Your life, as you know it, is over...


Guest

Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:45 pm   



On Sunday, July 21, 2019 at 7:37:30 PM UTC-4, Clifford Heath wrote:
Quote:
On 19/7/19 9:05 am, bloggs.fredbloggs.fred_at_gmail.com wrote:
And it's difficult to impossible to plead insanity there:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6224490/

If the insanity is incurable, there's no reason it should mitigate. We
are right to neutralise harmful things. It's a cost minimisation
activity, like most criminal penalties (so mis-named!)


The perpetrator was burned pretty badly and may not survive, so this issue may become moot.
As for motive, he claimed the anime company had stolen ideas from a novel he wrote, made a bundle off it, and never paid him a single yen.

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