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Robert Baer
Guest

Sat Jul 01, 2017 5:40 pm   



Is KICAD now belly-up? ALL references i had are dead in one way or
another.

Is there anyway to import EAGLE file to KICAD (assuming KCAD is
available and works)?

Martin Riddle
Guest

Sat Jul 01, 2017 9:17 pm   



On Sat, 01 Jul 2017 07:40:33 -0800, Robert Baer
<robertbaer_at_localnet.com> wrote:

Quote:
Is KICAD now belly-up? ALL references i had are dead in one way or
another.

Is there anyway to import EAGLE file to KICAD (assuming KCAD is
available and works)?


Still there, just downloaded 4.0.6

Hack-a-Day has an article on importing Eagle brd and sch.

Cheers

Robert Baer
Guest

Sun Jul 02, 2017 9:16 am   



Martin Riddle wrote:
Quote:
On Sat, 01 Jul 2017 07:40:33 -0800, Robert Baer
robertbaer_at_localnet.com> wrote:

Is KICAD now belly-up? ALL references i had are dead in one way or
another.

Is there anyway to import EAGLE file to KICAD (assuming KCAD is
available and works)?

Still there, just downloaded 4.0.6

Hack-a-Day has an article on importing Eagle brd and sch.

Cheers

DAMN! The shitiest site ever! Almost ZERO contrast; impossible to
read as-is.
So, pray tell how do i find that article? (Since i am a Baer) fur
example what title do i look for?
....933 Results fur "eagle to kicad"
Viewed about 150 titles, Kicad not mentioned.
....743 Results fur "kicad"
Viewed about 150 titles, Eagle mentioned, a few articles,not useful:
Project log from snapVCC
Moved to kicad
Moved from EAGLE to kicad with help from -- NOPE!

Hacker page by oshpark
Native Kicad upload
Continuing with our goal to simplify Open -- NOPE!

There were more projects following these, but still no cigar.

Help?
thanks.

rickman
Guest

Sun Jul 02, 2017 9:22 am   



Robert Baer wrote on 7/2/2017 3:16 AM:
Quote:
Martin Riddle wrote:
On Sat, 01 Jul 2017 07:40:33 -0800, Robert Baer
robertbaer_at_localnet.com> wrote:

Is KICAD now belly-up? ALL references i had are dead in one way or
another.

Is there anyway to import EAGLE file to KICAD (assuming KCAD is
available and works)?

Still there, just downloaded 4.0.6

Hack-a-Day has an article on importing Eagle brd and sch.

Cheers
DAMN! The shitiest site ever! Almost ZERO contrast; impossible to read as-is.
So, pray tell how do i find that article? (Since i am a Baer) fur example
what title do i look for?
....933 Results fur "eagle to kicad"
Viewed about 150 titles, Kicad not mentioned.
....743 Results fur "kicad"
Viewed about 150 titles, Eagle mentioned, a few articles,not useful:
Project log from snapVCC
Moved to kicad
Moved from EAGLE to kicad with help from -- NOPE!

Hacker page by oshpark
Native Kicad upload
Continuing with our goal to simplify Open -- NOPE!

There were more projects following these, but still no cigar.


I find th ebest way to search most web sites is by using Google.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=eagle+to+kicad

Check the third hit.

--

Rick C

Robert Baer
Guest

Mon Jul 03, 2017 9:41 am   



rickman wrote:
Quote:
Robert Baer wrote on 7/2/2017 3:16 AM:
Martin Riddle wrote:
On Sat, 01 Jul 2017 07:40:33 -0800, Robert Baer
robertbaer_at_localnet.com> wrote:

Is KICAD now belly-up? ALL references i had are dead in one way or
another.

Is there anyway to import EAGLE file to KICAD (assuming KCAD is
available and works)?

Still there, just downloaded 4.0.6

Hack-a-Day has an article on importing Eagle brd and sch.

Cheers
DAMN! The shitiest site ever! Almost ZERO contrast; impossible to read
as-is.
So, pray tell how do i find that article? (Since i am a Baer) fur example
what title do i look for?
....933 Results fur "eagle to kicad"
Viewed about 150 titles, Kicad not mentioned.
....743 Results fur "kicad"
Viewed about 150 titles, Eagle mentioned, a few articles,not useful:
Project log from snapVCC
Moved to kicad
Moved from EAGLE to kicad with help from -- NOPE!

Hacker page by oshpark
Native Kicad upload
Continuing with our goal to simplify Open -- NOPE!

There were more projects following these, but still no cigar.

I find th ebest way to search most web sites is by using Google.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=eagle+to+kicad

Check the third hit.

Thanks.
Have 5.12.0; so scheme not viable.

Then i got the (recent) student version which i found 120% useless,
so tossed it.
That was an unstated 64-bit win7 app.
My PC hardware will not accept 64-bit stuff; Win7 crashes early
during OS install.
In fact, i had to do a bit of fudging to get 32-bit Win7 running, and
more junk to get all of it working.

I thought to try making Gerbers, but that fails (wheel has no apertures).
DOA.

rickman
Guest

Mon Jul 03, 2017 9:48 am   



Robert Baer wrote on 7/3/2017 3:41 AM:
Quote:
rickman wrote:
Robert Baer wrote on 7/2/2017 3:16 AM:
Martin Riddle wrote:
On Sat, 01 Jul 2017 07:40:33 -0800, Robert Baer
robertbaer_at_localnet.com> wrote:

Is KICAD now belly-up? ALL references i had are dead in one way or
another.

Is there anyway to import EAGLE file to KICAD (assuming KCAD is
available and works)?

Still there, just downloaded 4.0.6

Hack-a-Day has an article on importing Eagle brd and sch.

Cheers
DAMN! The shitiest site ever! Almost ZERO contrast; impossible to read
as-is.
So, pray tell how do i find that article? (Since i am a Baer) fur example
what title do i look for?
....933 Results fur "eagle to kicad"
Viewed about 150 titles, Kicad not mentioned.
....743 Results fur "kicad"
Viewed about 150 titles, Eagle mentioned, a few articles,not useful:
Project log from snapVCC
Moved to kicad
Moved from EAGLE to kicad with help from -- NOPE!

Hacker page by oshpark
Native Kicad upload
Continuing with our goal to simplify Open -- NOPE!

There were more projects following these, but still no cigar.

I find th ebest way to search most web sites is by using Google.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=eagle+to+kicad

Check the third hit.

Thanks.
Have 5.12.0; so scheme not viable.

Then i got the (recent) student version which i found 120% useless, so
tossed it.
That was an unstated 64-bit win7 app.
My PC hardware will not accept 64-bit stuff; Win7 crashes early during OS
install.
In fact, i had to do a bit of fudging to get 32-bit Win7 running, and more
junk to get all of it working.

I thought to try making Gerbers, but that fails (wheel has no apertures).
DOA.


I seem to recall the older version of Gerber files put the apertures in a
separate file. Can you look for that?

But I don't know how Gerbers will be of much help. I don't think there is a
way to go from Gerber to layout is there?

--

Rick C

Robert Baer
Guest

Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:42 am   



rickman wrote:
Quote:
Robert Baer wrote on 7/3/2017 3:41 AM:
rickman wrote:
Robert Baer wrote on 7/2/2017 3:16 AM:
Martin Riddle wrote:
On Sat, 01 Jul 2017 07:40:33 -0800, Robert Baer
robertbaer_at_localnet.com> wrote:

Is KICAD now belly-up? ALL references i had are dead in one way or
another.

Is there anyway to import EAGLE file to KICAD (assuming KCAD is
available and works)?

Still there, just downloaded 4.0.6

Hack-a-Day has an article on importing Eagle brd and sch.

Cheers
DAMN! The shitiest site ever! Almost ZERO contrast; impossible to read
as-is.
So, pray tell how do i find that article? (Since i am a Baer) fur
example
what title do i look for?
....933 Results fur "eagle to kicad"
Viewed about 150 titles, Kicad not mentioned.
....743 Results fur "kicad"
Viewed about 150 titles, Eagle mentioned, a few articles,not useful:
Project log from snapVCC
Moved to kicad
Moved from EAGLE to kicad with help from -- NOPE!

Hacker page by oshpark
Native Kicad upload
Continuing with our goal to simplify Open -- NOPE!

There were more projects following these, but still no cigar.

I find th ebest way to search most web sites is by using Google.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=eagle+to+kicad

Check the third hit.

Thanks.
Have 5.12.0; so scheme not viable.

Then i got the (recent) student version which i found 120% useless, so
tossed it.
That was an unstated 64-bit win7 app.
My PC hardware will not accept 64-bit stuff; Win7 crashes early during OS
install.
In fact, i had to do a bit of fudging to get 32-bit Win7 running, and
more
junk to get all of it working.

I thought to try making Gerbers, but that fails (wheel has no apertures).
DOA.

I seem to recall the older version of Gerber files put the apertures in
a separate file. Can you look for that?

But I don't know how Gerbers will be of much help. I don't think there
is a way to go from Gerber to layout is there?

Good question, as i cannot get Kicad to do anything useful.
Seems it DEMANDS InsipidExasperator, which i killed long ago (see
error messages).
Clicking on a new Kicad project file shows error message like
program not found.
Fixing the Open With results with another error (see attached).

Does this mean i "must" drag project file to the program EVERY time?

Robert Baer
Guest

Wed Jul 05, 2017 2:22 am   



Robert Baer wrote:
Quote:
rickman wrote:
Robert Baer wrote on 7/3/2017 3:41 AM:
rickman wrote:
Robert Baer wrote on 7/2/2017 3:16 AM:
Martin Riddle wrote:
On Sat, 01 Jul 2017 07:40:33 -0800, Robert Baer
robertbaer_at_localnet.com> wrote:

Is KICAD now belly-up? ALL references i had are dead in one way or
another.

Is there anyway to import EAGLE file to KICAD (assuming KCAD is
available and works)?

Still there, just downloaded 4.0.6

Hack-a-Day has an article on importing Eagle brd and sch.

Cheers
DAMN! The shitiest site ever! Almost ZERO contrast; impossible to read
as-is.
So, pray tell how do i find that article? (Since i am a Baer) fur
example
what title do i look for?
....933 Results fur "eagle to kicad"
Viewed about 150 titles, Kicad not mentioned.
....743 Results fur "kicad"
Viewed about 150 titles, Eagle mentioned, a few articles,not useful:
Project log from snapVCC
Moved to kicad
Moved from EAGLE to kicad with help from -- NOPE!

Hacker page by oshpark
Native Kicad upload
Continuing with our goal to simplify Open -- NOPE!

There were more projects following these, but still no cigar.

I find th ebest way to search most web sites is by using Google.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=eagle+to+kicad

Check the third hit.

Thanks.
Have 5.12.0; so scheme not viable.

Then i got the (recent) student version which i found 120% useless, so
tossed it.
That was an unstated 64-bit win7 app.
My PC hardware will not accept 64-bit stuff; Win7 crashes early
during OS
install.
In fact, i had to do a bit of fudging to get 32-bit Win7 running, and
more
junk to get all of it working.

I thought to try making Gerbers, but that fails (wheel has no
apertures).
DOA.

I seem to recall the older version of Gerber files put the apertures in
a separate file. Can you look for that?

But I don't know how Gerbers will be of much help. I don't think there
is a way to go from Gerber to layout is there?

Good question, as i cannot get Kicad to do anything useful.
Seems it DEMANDS InsipidExasperator, which i killed long ago (see
error messages).
Clicking on a new Kicad project file shows error message like
program not found.
Fixing the Open With results with another error (see attached).

Does this mean i "must" drag project file to the program EVERY time?

Well. I am un-impressed.
Extremely difficult if not impossible to create even a simple board
outline.
CONTINUOUS mouse movements necessary else get jaggies and
discontinuous pieces.

NO WAY TO EDIT via given program.
Had to use a text editor to fix the .kicad_pcb file to properly fix
the "(gr_line (start..." lines.

The "help" doc is in error; one CANNOT "zero" or reset co-ordinates
with the space-bar (ignored).

There are NO mounting holes in the 3.86 to 4.04 mm region; no other
size will do for the Mouser 561-MTP500 "ball" top post, which are
perfect for snap-in mounting of a PCB (#21 drill).

Diodes.THT DO-15 P2.54 mm looks shorted; and the pads look too damn
large; a standard layout in other CAD programs give up to 0.1 spacing
allowance.

Cannot select ANY footprint.

Yes, Kicad is Really Swift.


Guest

Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:22 am   



On Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 11:17:47 AM UTC-8, Martin Riddle wrote:
Quote:
On Sat, 01 Jul 2017 07:40:33 -0800, Robert Baer
robertbaer_at_localnet.com> wrote:

Is KICAD now belly-up? ALL references i had are dead in one way or
another.

Is there anyway to import EAGLE file to KICAD (assuming KCAD is
available and works)?

Still there, just downloaded 4.0.6

Hack-a-Day has an article on importing Eagle brd and sch.

Cheers


Hack-day site is almost total sh*t; damn-near black font on black background.
Impossible to find article inside UL.
"Instructions" set a very high bar, seriously inhibiting usefulness.


Guest

Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:30 am   



Well. I am un-impressed.
Extremely difficult if not impossible to create even a simple board outline.
CONTINUOUS mouse movements necessary else get jaggies and discontinuous pieces.

NO WAY TO EDIT via given program.
Had to use a text editor to fix the .kicad_pcb file to properly fix
the "(gr_line (start..." lines.

The "help" doc is in error; one CANNOT "zero" or reset co-ordinates with the space-bar (ignored).

There are NO mounting holes in the 3.86 to 4.04 mm region; no other
size will do for the Mouser 561-MTP500 "ball" top post, which are perfect for snap-in mounting of a PCB (#21 drill).

Diodes.THT DO-15 P2.54 mm looks shorted; and the pads look too damn large; a standard layout in other CAD programs give up to 0.02 spacing
allowance.

Cannot select ANY footprint.

Yes, Kicad is Really Swift.

rickman
Guest

Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:49 am   



oil4lessllc_at_gmail.com wrote on 7/4/2017 9:22 PM:
Quote:
On Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 11:17:47 AM UTC-8, Martin Riddle wrote:
On Sat, 01 Jul 2017 07:40:33 -0800, Robert Baer
robertbaer_at_localnet.com> wrote:

Is KICAD now belly-up? ALL references i had are dead in one way or
another.

Is there anyway to import EAGLE file to KICAD (assuming KCAD is
available and works)?

Still there, just downloaded 4.0.6

Hack-a-Day has an article on importing Eagle brd and sch.

Cheers

Hack-day site is almost total sh*t; damn-near black font on black background.


That's for sure. I go nearly blind reading that crap site. They know this
bothers people and have indicated they don't care. At least I recall
reading this somewhere, but I can't recall where. It is hard to imagine
they have not received a ton of feedback on the colors.


> Impossible to find article inside UL.

What is a UL?


> "Instructions" set a very high bar, seriously inhibiting usefulness.

Not sure what this means.

--

Rick C

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