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bitrex
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Mon Dec 31, 2018 5:45 pm   



On 12/30/2018 07:32 PM, whit3rd wrote:
Quote:
On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 3:53:02 PM UTC-8, dp wrote:

Although I suppose the only way Trump could have got into the job
was to have someone as hated as Hillary against him

Yeah, but 'hated' is not how anyone sees Hillary Clinton, it's just
a provocation. A few people will always believe any outrageous claim,
and if you ask a probing question (like, "Why?") the answers are
sparse and unimpressive. One 'warmonger' advocate has
suggested all wars during her Secretary of State tenure were her fault,
for instance.

It's like a conspiracy theory, a suggestive soundbite that doesn't really HAVE a good
correspondence with real events and persons. A few people will
decide to believe... regardless of the merits.

Swiftboat was an example that kinda... worked. We've GOT to expect
the tricksters to do it again, and again, and again...


The American Right hated Hillary but mostly for the wrong reasons, same
as how the Right hates the university system but mostly for the wrong
reasons.

i.e. the Right hates the university system because it thinks it's a
hotbed of extreme left-wing/Marxist behavior when in reality it's at
best a hotbed of elitist, centrist Clintonian Democracts who are in the
business of same-ol, same-ol.

Colleges and university is ferociously expensive; colleges and
universities tend to be full of _wealthy_ people who aren't much
interested in the plight of either unemployed mid-western factory
workers or inner-city blacks, the type of place where sheltered 21 year
olds their first year away from home ring the police because they see a
black student using a pay phone (they've never seen either before.)

whit3rd
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Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:45 pm   



On Monday, December 31, 2018 at 7:58:04 AM UTC-8, bitrex wrote:
Quote:
On 12/30/2018 07:32 PM, whit3rd wrote:
On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 3:53:02 PM UTC-8, dp wrote:

Although I suppose the only way Trump could have got into the job
was to have someone as hated as Hillary against him

Yeah, but 'hated' is not how anyone sees Hillary Clinton, it's just
a provocation.

The American Right hated Hillary but mostly for the wrong reasons,


If by 'American Right' you mean sock puppets co-operated as Republican party
tools, that's what I mean by 'a provocation'. Hillary got as many votes as
the other guy, that doesn't square with the 'hated' theory. The vote distribution
and electoral college footprint just overlapped to favor the Donald.

bitrex
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Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:45 pm   



On 12/30/2018 09:41 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Quote:
On 12/30/18 10:36 AM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 20:58:28 -0500, Phil Hobbs wrote:

Oh, well.  Maybe you folks will have to step up and fund your own
defence, like grown-ups.

It's about time! NATO is long overdue for reform. All that expansion into
Eastern Europe was a crazy idea and Trump certainly can't be blamed for
that.

Yup.  American policy wonks have this idea that everyone wants the same
things for the same reasons, but it ain't so.

When Saipan fell, at least ten thousand Japanese civilians commited mass
suicide, many by jumping off the cliffs. (*)

You'd have thought that mass suicide would have been enough to disabuse
Americans of the idea that we're all alike under the skin, but no.  Nor
has their iterated failure in 'nation building' in places whose history
is very different from theirs, such as Vietnam, Cambodia, Iraq,
Afghanistan, and even Central America.  Post-war Germany and Japan were
successes, generally speaking, but both had been self-consciously
involved in Western civilization for centuries already.  (Okay, Japan
for only one century, but still.)

Everywhere else that 'regime change' has been tried, we've screwed it
up.  We can knock off Khadafys and Saddams, but to little avail.  Do we
learn?  No.

We talk about 'self-determination' of various groups *ad nauseam*, but
somehow never apply it to people we don't like, e.g. the Great Russian
majority in eastern Ukraine and the Crimea.

I really like Americans. I've lived among them for 35 years now.  I love
their big hearts close up, but unfortunately that's part of the problem
in the wider world.


I know a number of immigrants to the US from say Europe or Russia who
came in the 1980s, 1990s who tend to have a very positive impression of
Americans.

There are many really great Americans to be sure but the problem is if
you don't grow up around Americans it's hard to really know them. You'll
see some darker stuff which might make you think that in the balance of
good vs. bad qualities the American "nature" is not that much different
than then "nature" of people anywhere else.

Most other places simply tend to be poorer, and sheer financial
prosperity and affluence can disguise a multitude of sins the way the
proverbial matte-black Krylon paint can.

bitrex
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Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:45 pm   



On 12/31/2018 01:44 PM, whit3rd wrote:
Quote:
On Monday, December 31, 2018 at 7:58:04 AM UTC-8, bitrex wrote:
On 12/30/2018 07:32 PM, whit3rd wrote:
On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 3:53:02 PM UTC-8, dp wrote:

Although I suppose the only way Trump could have got into the job
was to have someone as hated as Hillary against him

Yeah, but 'hated' is not how anyone sees Hillary Clinton, it's just
a provocation.

The American Right hated Hillary but mostly for the wrong reasons,

If by 'American Right' you mean sock puppets co-operated as Republican party
tools, that's what I mean by 'a provocation'. Hillary got as many votes as
the other guy, that doesn't square with the 'hated' theory. The vote distribution
and electoral college footprint just overlapped to favor the Donald.


Oh no, tens of millions of Americans legitimately hate her and would
very much like to see her imprisoned.

Tens of millions of Americans hate lots of people and would pay to see
the people they hate tortured and set on fire on TV, too, they just
would prefer to not do it themselves.

Trump certainly does do things the "average American" likes cuz the
"average American" is a superficially-polite violent psychopath

bitrex
Guest

Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:45 pm   



On 12/30/2018 09:41 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Quote:
On 12/30/18 10:36 AM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 20:58:28 -0500, Phil Hobbs wrote:

Oh, well.  Maybe you folks will have to step up and fund your own
defence, like grown-ups.

It's about time! NATO is long overdue for reform. All that expansion into
Eastern Europe was a crazy idea and Trump certainly can't be blamed for
that.

Yup.  American policy wonks have this idea that everyone wants the same
things for the same reasons, but it ain't so.

When Saipan fell, at least ten thousand Japanese civilians commited mass
suicide, many by jumping off the cliffs. (*)

You'd have thought that mass suicide would have been enough to disabuse
Americans of the idea that we're all alike under the skin, but no.


American forces fought viciously in the Pacific same as the enemy did -
no quarter was asked and none was given. Civilians and enemy alike were
executed and mutilated routinely and rarely did anyone take prisoners.
Japanese civilians had little reason to believe they wouldn't face that
kind of treatment if captured.

Okinawan civilians did the same thing in smaller number after the battle
of Okinawa but did not generally consider themselves Japanese, but were
under the impression the Americans would execute them all anyway

Nomen Nescio
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Mon Dec 31, 2018 11:40 pm   



whit3rd <whit3rd_at_gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Monday, December 31, 2018 at 7:58:04 AM UTC-8, bitrex wrote:
On 12/30/2018 07:32 PM, whit3rd wrote:
On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 3:53:02 PM UTC-8, dp wrote:

Although I suppose the only way Trump could have got into the job
was to have someone as hated as Hillary against him

Yeah, but 'hated' is not how anyone sees Hillary Clinton, it's just
a provocation.

The American Right hated Hillary but mostly for the wrong reasons,

If by 'American Right' you mean sock puppets co-operated as Republican party
tools, that's what I mean by 'a provocation'. Hillary got as many votes as
the other guy, that doesn't square with the 'hated' theory. The vote distribution
and electoral college footprint just overlapped to favor the Donald.


everybody hates Hillary, especially the people in her own party. that's why she needed superdelegates to win. she ought to run again..

Cursitor Doom
Guest

Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:45 am   



On Mon, 31 Dec 2018 21:40:22 +0000, Nomen Nescio wrote:

Quote:
everybody hates Hillary, especially the people in her own party. that's
why she needed superdelegates to win. she ought to run again..


I for one am hoping she will. :->



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Tue Jan 01, 2019 4:45 am   



On Mon, 31 Dec 2018 23:23:16 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
<curd_at_notformail.com> wrote:

Quote:
On Mon, 31 Dec 2018 21:40:22 +0000, Nomen Nescio wrote:

everybody hates Hillary, especially the people in her own party. that's
why she needed superdelegates to win. she ought to run again..

I for one am hoping she will. :-


Nah, that joke has played out completely. The Democrats have a pile
of new jokes in their bag for the next election.


Guest

Tue Jan 01, 2019 4:45 am   



On Tuesday, January 1, 2019 at 2:06:58 PM UTC+11, k...@notreal.com wrote:
Quote:
On Mon, 31 Dec 2018 23:23:16 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
curd_at_notformail.com> wrote:

On Mon, 31 Dec 2018 21:40:22 +0000, Nomen Nescio wrote:

everybody hates Hillary, especially the people in her own party. that's
why she needed superdelegates to win. she ought to run again..

I for one am hoping she will. :-

Nah, that joke has played out completely. The Democrats have a pile
of new jokes in their bag for the next election.


It is to be hoped that the Republicans are also going to go for new ways to amuse us. Trump certainly is a joke, but he's a bad joke and needs to be retired rapidly.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

bitrex
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Tue Jan 01, 2019 7:45 am   



On 12/31/2018 06:23 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
Quote:
On Mon, 31 Dec 2018 21:40:22 +0000, Nomen Nescio wrote:

everybody hates Hillary, especially the people in her own party. that's
why she needed superdelegates to win. she ought to run again..

I for one am hoping she will. :-


United Kingdom of What? residents, having found their own nation
increasingly irrelevant, apparently have not much to do with their time
but spectate the US elections.

I think it's a foreign conspiracy to degrade our high-luster glossy
enamel American smiles, is what it is.

whit3rd
Guest

Tue Jan 01, 2019 8:45 am   



On Monday, December 31, 2018 at 12:07:30 PM UTC-8, bitrex wrote:
Quote:
On 12/30/2018 09:41 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:

When Saipan fell, at least ten thousand Japanese civilians commited mass
suicide, many by jumping off the cliffs. (*)

You'd have thought that mass suicide would have been enough to disabuse
Americans of the idea that we're all alike under the skin, but no.

American forces fought viciously in the Pacific same as the enemy did -
no quarter was asked and none was given.


Nonsense; submarines cannot take prisoners, but both sides had POW collections.
The Saipan event, caught on camera, was the result of a military overthrow of Japan's
civilian government, and subsequent propogandizing on military virtues (death
before surrender) and civilians did suicide for that silly principle, NOT because
the oncoming forces were only offering death.

mkr5000
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Tue Jan 01, 2019 8:45 pm   



On Thursday, December 27, 2018 at 9:33:43 AM UTC-5, amdx wrote:
Quote:
It seems so.


I wanted to see more info about the rally that Hillary Clinton had in
Canada (few showed up) and searched google with Hillarys canadian rally
flop.
Of the first 20 hits 4 were off topic, (Car rallys, book).
7 hits that were about Hillary and 8 were negative articles about Trump.
I think Google might be shaping their search engine to put Trump
in a negative light.

I did the same in DuckDuckgo, 9 hits on Hillary, 10 hits that were
either off topic, irrelevant or a poll result, and 1 hit about
Trump and it was quoting what he said about Hillary and the boarder.

I think it's time to reshape Google.


I was looking for this info I heard about poor attendance at my
morning coffee meetup, but never saw anything in the media about it.

https://ilovemyfreedom.org/not-interested-bill-and-hillarys-speaking-tour-flops-barely-fills-17-percent-of-arena/

I had to change Rally to fundraiser to find this.
Mikek


NO. Trump is.

Mike Perkins
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Tue Jan 01, 2019 8:45 pm   



On 01/01/2019 06:11, bitrex wrote:
Quote:
On 12/31/2018 06:23 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Mon, 31 Dec 2018 21:40:22 +0000, Nomen Nescio wrote:

everybody hates Hillary, especially the people in her own party. that's
why she needed superdelegates to win. she ought to run again..

I for one am hoping she will. :-


United Kingdom of What? residents, having found their own nation
increasingly irrelevant, apparently have not much to do with their time
but spectate the US elections.


Perhaps we show an interest as we aren't entirely insular and appreciate
we are part of a greater world outside our demographic boundaries.

Quote:
I think it's a foreign conspiracy to degrade our high-luster glossy
enamel American smiles, is what it is.


That sounds more like a lack of self-confidence.

--
Mike Perkins
Video Solutions Ltd
www.videosolutions.ltd.uk

George Herold
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 12:45 am   



On Tuesday, January 1, 2019 at 2:24:14 PM UTC-5, mkr5000 wrote:
Quote:
On Thursday, December 27, 2018 at 9:33:43 AM UTC-5, amdx wrote:
It seems so.


I wanted to see more info about the rally that Hillary Clinton had in
Canada (few showed up) and searched google with Hillarys canadian rally
flop.
Of the first 20 hits 4 were off topic, (Car rallys, book).
7 hits that were about Hillary and 8 were negative articles about Trump.
I think Google might be shaping their search engine to put Trump
in a negative light.

I did the same in DuckDuckgo, 9 hits on Hillary, 10 hits that were
either off topic, irrelevant or a poll result, and 1 hit about
Trump and it was quoting what he said about Hillary and the boarder.

I think it's time to reshape Google.


I was looking for this info I heard about poor attendance at my
morning coffee meetup, but never saw anything in the media about it.

https://ilovemyfreedom.org/not-interested-bill-and-hillarys-speaking-tour-flops-barely-fills-17-percent-of-arena/

I had to change Rally to fundraiser to find this.
Mikek

NO. Trump is.


Look, I held my nose and voted for several Clintons.
I hope they never darken my ballot again.

'thread bend',
I had this political epiphany.
I was listening to Bret Weinstein, (How the magic trick is done)
he talked about two political axes, left and right on the horizontal
and libertarian/ authoritarian on the vertical.
He describes himself as a left/ libertarian,
and he gets along fine with right/ libertarians.
(at least in the current political environs)

Which describes pretty much how I feel..
(left/libertarian)

Does that mean I'll have to give up google and amazon?

George H.

Phil Hobbs
Guest

Wed Jan 02, 2019 3:45 am   



On 1/1/19 6:08 PM, George Herold wrote:
Quote:
On Tuesday, January 1, 2019 at 2:24:14 PM UTC-5, mkr5000 wrote:
On Thursday, December 27, 2018 at 9:33:43 AM UTC-5, amdx wrote:
It seems so.


I wanted to see more info about the rally that Hillary Clinton had in
Canada (few showed up) and searched google with Hillarys canadian rally
flop.
Of the first 20 hits 4 were off topic, (Car rallys, book).
7 hits that were about Hillary and 8 were negative articles about Trump.
I think Google might be shaping their search engine to put Trump
in a negative light.

I did the same in DuckDuckgo, 9 hits on Hillary, 10 hits that were
either off topic, irrelevant or a poll result, and 1 hit about
Trump and it was quoting what he said about Hillary and the boarder.

I think it's time to reshape Google.


I was looking for this info I heard about poor attendance at my
morning coffee meetup, but never saw anything in the media about it.

https://ilovemyfreedom.org/not-interested-bill-and-hillarys-speaking-tour-flops-barely-fills-17-percent-of-arena/

I had to change Rally to fundraiser to find this.
Mikek

NO. Trump is.

Look, I held my nose and voted for several Clintons.
I hope they never darken my ballot again.

'thread bend',
I had this political epiphany.
I was listening to Bret Weinstein, (How the magic trick is done)
he talked about two political axes, left and right on the horizontal
and libertarian/ authoritarian on the vertical.
He describes himself as a left/ libertarian,
and he gets along fine with right/ libertarians.
(at least in the current political environs)

Which describes pretty much how I feel..
(left/libertarian)

Does that mean I'll have to give up google and amazon?

George H.


I mostly did already.


Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
https://hobbs-eo.com

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