Insignia NS-HDTUNE Take Apart/Exploration

Hi!

Asked Meathead, the village idiot.

Oh for cryin' out loud...don't you have *anything* better to do? Isn't the
purpose of this group to ask electronics related questions and get answers?

Sure, a web search can answer the question. So can this group, and I don't
think it unreasonable that they do!

I don't know how many people have heard HD Radio or even really care about
it. I don't know anyone who has an HD Radio tuner, nor have I seen one in my
adventures.

William

William, a resident net-nanny, lives a quiet secluded life, without
any contact with the real world.

Hi!

I have a receiver permanently mounted in my SUV. It transmits
it's signal over the FM broadcast band into the SUV's radio
on whatever freq I want. On occasion when I travel other stations
overpowered the sat receiver so I just took the FM antenna off
the SUV.

I had that happen with an iPod to FM modulator type of device, but it
didn't wire directly into the antenna connection. Its output was quiet,
which doubled the shock when something overpowered it.

I didn't pull the antenna because every time I have, it's proven
difficult to get it back on tightly enough that it won't work loose. I'd
hate for it to go flying off at speed. I already had the cassette player
(what can I say, other than I'm "old school", having made mix tapes up
until recently) so I just went to using a cassette shell as I always had
for that direct line-in connection.

The sat receiver has an option to use an external wire antenna
so it can transmit its signal further.

That's an interesting idea, especially since it is powerful enough to
get into your house and play on radios there.

Perhaps one of these days when I have a little more money going spare, I
might look into satellite radio. A few years ago I saw a nice Samsung
satellite radio receiver/recorder but didn't buy it because it was so
expensive. It had either flash memory or a small hard drive to record
to, and they claimed it was good for several hours worth of recording,
as well as timed recording.

I may try to climb up the disused TV antenna mast today and see what
will be required to get it going again. If there isn't an FM trap up
there, I expect it could be used as some kind of FM antenna for the HD
Radio tuner.

William

On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 11:49:56 -0600, "William R. Walsh"
newsgroups1_at_idontwantjunqueemail.walshcomptech.com>wrote:

Hi!

So you pay 100 bucks for a receiver and get to listen
to the same commercial broadcast but now in near CD
quality sound?

I guess you could say that, but I'm not sure that a good analog FM
signal wouldn't already qualify as "near CD quality" sound...especially
on a good tuner.

I wanted to see what HD Radio was about (especially the subchannels),
but I wasn't about to pay any $100 to do so! After looking inside, I'm
convinced that someone is doing a pretty good job at inflating the price!

Being one that listens to music on the road I got really
disgusted with the ever increasing amount of commercials.

Me too. And it's hard to find what I want to hear on the radio anyway.
Stations seem so mercurial in their format changes any more...what
format was on the radio an hour ago might not be there later...

My solution has been to use an iPod, plugged into a cassette shell
adapter or stereo miniplug to RCA connector cable. It's a beautiful
thing to have on a long road trip. Before I had an iPod, I'd stick an
old laptop under the seat and let it rip through the same cassette shell
adapter. The battery held it for most trips, and when it didn't, I
already had a power inverter handy.

I also never hear a bad song that way.

I haven't subscribed to satellite radio mainly because I can't listen to
it on just any old receiver. So far as I know, I'd have to take the same
receiver everywhere, and that's just an invitation for me to
lose/misplace it.

William


I have a receiver permanently mounted in my SUV. It transmits it's
signal over the FM broadcast band into the SUV's radio on whatever
freq I want. On occasion when I travel other stations overpowered the
sat receiver so I just took the FM antenna off the SUV. The sat
receiver has an option to use an external wire antenna so it can
transmit its signal further. When my vehicle is parked in the garage
the signal transmits into my home and FM receivers in my bedroom and
living room. (snip)

"Meat Plow" wrote in message news:3io6jd.23f.17.4_at_news.alt.net...
On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 11:49:56 -0600, "William R. Walsh"
newsgroups1_at_idontwantjunqueemail.walshcomptech.com>wrote:

Hi!

So you pay 100 bucks for a receiver and get to listen
to the same commercial broadcast but now in near CD
quality sound?

I guess you could say that, but I'm not sure that a good analog FM
signal wouldn't already qualify as "near CD quality" sound...especially
on a good tuner.

I wanted to see what HD Radio was about (especially the subchannels),
but I wasn't about to pay any $100 to do so! After looking inside, I'm
convinced that someone is doing a pretty good job at inflating the price!

Being one that listens to music on the road I got really
disgusted with the ever increasing amount of commercials.

Me too. And it's hard to find what I want to hear on the radio anyway.
Stations seem so mercurial in their format changes any more...what
format was on the radio an hour ago might not be there later...

My solution has been to use an iPod, plugged into a cassette shell
adapter or stereo miniplug to RCA connector cable. It's a beautiful
thing to have on a long road trip. Before I had an iPod, I'd stick an
old laptop under the seat and let it rip through the same cassette shell
adapter. The battery held it for most trips, and when it didn't, I
already had a power inverter handy.

I also never hear a bad song that way.

I haven't subscribed to satellite radio mainly because I can't listen to
it on just any old receiver. So far as I know, I'd have to take the same
receiver everywhere, and that's just an invitation for me to
lose/misplace it.

William


I have a receiver permanently mounted in my SUV. It transmits it's
signal over the FM broadcast band into the SUV's radio on whatever
freq I want. On occasion when I travel other stations overpowered the
sat receiver so I just took the FM antenna off the SUV. The sat
receiver has an option to use an external wire antenna so it can
transmit its signal further. When my vehicle is parked in the garage
the signal transmits into my home and FM receivers in my bedroom and
living room. (snip)

So[SLAP]

On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 21:34:52 -0600, "Klaatu" <nospam_at_today.com>wrote:



"Meat Plow" wrote in message news:3io6jd.23f.17.4_at_news.alt.net...
On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 11:49:56 -0600, "William R. Walsh"
newsgroups1_at_idontwantjunqueemail.walshcomptech.com>wrote:

Hi!

So you pay 100 bucks for a receiver and get to listen
to the same commercial broadcast but now in near CD
quality sound?

I guess you could say that, but I'm not sure that a good analog FM
signal wouldn't already qualify as "near CD quality" sound...especially
on a good tuner.

I wanted to see what HD Radio was about (especially the subchannels),
but I wasn't about to pay any $100 to do so! After looking inside, I'm
convinced that someone is doing a pretty good job at inflating the
price!

Being one that listens to music on the road I got really
disgusted with the ever increasing amount of commercials.

Me too. And it's hard to find what I want to hear on the radio anyway.
Stations seem so mercurial in their format changes any more...what
format was on the radio an hour ago might not be there later...

My solution has been to use an iPod, plugged into a cassette shell
adapter or stereo miniplug to RCA connector cable. It's a beautiful
thing to have on a long road trip. Before I had an iPod, I'd stick an
old laptop under the seat and let it rip through the same cassette shell
adapter. The battery held it for most trips, and when it didn't, I
already had a power inverter handy.

I also never hear a bad song that way.

I haven't subscribed to satellite radio mainly because I can't listen to
it on just any old receiver. So far as I know, I'd have to take the same
receiver everywhere, and that's just an invitation for me to
lose/misplace it.

William


I have a receiver permanently mounted in my SUV. It transmits it's
signal over the FM broadcast band into the SUV's radio on whatever
freq I want. On occasion when I travel other stations overpowered the
sat receiver so I just took the FM antenna off the SUV. The sat
receiver has an option to use an external wire antenna so it can
transmit its signal further. When my vehicle is parked in the garage
the signal transmits into my home and FM receivers in my bedroom and
living room. (snip)

So[SLAP]

So wank off, fen-sucked pisswit.

http://greyghost.mooo.com/hdtunetakeapart/

So you have the nuclear powered Sirius radio that gets reception in your
garage?
Idiot, satellite radio is line of sight. Wont work in a garage, under a
bridge, or under anything that obstructs line of sight. DOH!

And meatball responds with an insult, but doesn't tell us how he gets
satellite radio while his
vehicle is parked in the garage.

On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 21:34:52 -0600, "Klaatu" <nospam_at_today.com> wrote:

So you have the nuclear powered Sirius radio that gets reception in your
garage?
Idiot, satellite radio is line of sight. Wont work in a garage, under a
bridge, or under anything that obstructs line of sight. DOH!

Try again...

Both Sirius and XM have terrestrial repeaters to fill in dead spots in
metropolitan areas, where tall buildings get in the way.
http://www.dogstarradio.com/sirius_map.php

XM Repeaters around Washington DC:
http://www.xm411.com/phpbb/album_pic.php?pic_id=9

Google Earth map of XM repeaters circa 2007:
http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/kml/XM-repeaters.kmz
(borrowed from Mike of xm411.com)

Some photos of XM terrestrial repeaters.
http://ednixon.com/pix/2001/harvardownstairs/
http://ednixon.com/pix/2001/xmharvard/
http://www.telebeans.org/tmp/xm/XM-cabinet.jpg

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl_at_cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

"Meat Plow" wrote in message news:3it3q8.g4.17.3_at_news.alt.net...
On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 21:34:52 -0600, "Klaatu" <nospam_at_today.com>wrote:



So[SLAP]

So wank off, fen-sucked pisswit.

And meatball responds with an insult, but doesn't tell us how he gets
satellite radio while his
vehicle is parked in the garage.

How many spare screws?

On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 09:19:59 -0800 Jeff Liebermann <jeffl_at_cruzio.com
wrote in Message id: <gon7p51demcrel1g7utkdeskq72k0rd9ch_at_4ax.com>:

[...]

How many spare screws?

Those aren't spares, those are inventory for the next job when you come up
short.

"Meat Plow" wrote in message news:3it3q8.g4.17.3_at_news.alt.net...
On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 21:34:52 -0600, "Klaatu" <nospam_at_today.com>wrote:



"Meat Plow" wrote in message news:3io6jd.23f.17.4_at_news.alt.net...
On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 11:49:56 -0600, "William R. Walsh"
newsgroups1_at_idontwantjunqueemail.walshcomptech.com>wrote:

Hi!

So you pay 100 bucks for a receiver and get to listen
to the same commercial broadcast but now in near CD
quality sound?

I guess you could say that, but I'm not sure that a good analog FM
signal wouldn't already qualify as "near CD quality" sound...especially
on a good tuner.

I wanted to see what HD Radio was about (especially the subchannels),
but I wasn't about to pay any $100 to do so! After looking inside, I'm
convinced that someone is doing a pretty good job at inflating the
price!

Being one that listens to music on the road I got really
disgusted with the ever increasing amount of commercials.

Me too. And it's hard to find what I want to hear on the radio anyway.
Stations seem so mercurial in their format changes any more...what
format was on the radio an hour ago might not be there later...

My solution has been to use an iPod, plugged into a cassette shell
adapter or stereo miniplug to RCA connector cable. It's a beautiful
thing to have on a long road trip. Before I had an iPod, I'd stick an
old laptop under the seat and let it rip through the same cassette shell
adapter. The battery held it for most trips, and when it didn't, I
already had a power inverter handy.

I also never hear a bad song that way.

I haven't subscribed to satellite radio mainly because I can't listen to
it on just any old receiver. So far as I know, I'd have to take the same
receiver everywhere, and that's just an invitation for me to
lose/misplace it.

William


I have a receiver permanently mounted in my SUV. It transmits it's
signal over the FM broadcast band into the SUV's radio on whatever
freq I want. On occasion when I travel other stations overpowered the
sat receiver so I just took the FM antenna off the SUV. The sat
receiver has an option to use an external wire antenna so it can
transmit its signal further. When my vehicle is parked in the garage
the signal transmits into my home and FM receivers in my bedroom and
living room. (snip)

So[SLAP]

So wank off, fen-sucked pisswit.

And meatball responds with an insult, but doesn't tell us how he gets
satellite radio while his
vehicle is parked in the garage.

On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 21:34:52 -0600, "Klaatu" <nospam_at_today.com> wrote:

So you have the nuclear powered Sirius radio that gets reception in your
garage?
Idiot, satellite radio is line of sight. Wont work in a garage, under a
bridge, or under anything that obstructs line of sight. DOH!

Try again...

Both Sirius and XM have terrestrial repeaters to fill in dead spots in
metropolitan areas, where tall buildings get in the way.
http://www.dogstarradio.com/sirius_map.php