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StrandElectric
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Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:39 am   



Can anybody with a good inductance meter, please measure a 10 watt wirewound
resistor of 820oms and tell me the inductance. I am getting wildly
different figures from various sources.

Thanks all.

Dennis
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Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:55 am   



"StrandElectric" <Strand_at_dummyspit> wrote in message
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Quote:
Can anybody with a good inductance meter, please measure a 10 watt
wirewound resistor of 820oms and tell me the inductance. I am getting
wildly different figures from various sources.

Thanks all.



Probably quite manufacturer dependent???

atec77
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Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:38 am   



On 21/06/2011 7:55 PM, Dennis wrote:
Quote:
"StrandElectric"<Strand_at_dummyspit> wrote in message
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Can anybody with a good inductance meter, please measure a 10 watt
wirewound resistor of 820oms and tell me the inductance. I am getting
wildly different figures from various sources.

Thanks all.



Probably quite manufacturer dependent???


Yes , depends on turns and type/length of wire included


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Phil Allison
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Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:20 pm   



"StrandElectric"
Quote:

Can anybody with a good inductance meter, please measure a 10 watt
wirewound resistor of 820ohms and tell me the inductance.


** The inductance is so small it is totally irrelevant compared to the 820
ohms of resistance.



..... Phil

StrandElectric
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Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:56 pm   



"Phil Allison" <phil_a_at_tpg.com.au> wrote in message
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Quote:

"StrandElectric"

Can anybody with a good inductance meter, please measure a 10 watt
wirewound resistor of 820ohms and tell me the inductance.


** The inductance is so small it is totally irrelevant compared to the 820
ohms of resistance.



.... Phil

Phil. That depends entirely on the frequency in use, in this case up to 30

Megs!

I still neeed that measurement.

Trevor Wilson
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Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:54 pm   



StrandElectric wrote:
Quote:
Can anybody with a good inductance meter, please measure a 10 watt
wirewound resistor of 820oms and tell me the inductance. I am
getting wildly different figures from various sources.

**That's because there is no one, correct answer. Some wirewound resistors
are bifilar wound, which exhibits far lower inductance figures than regular
wound resistors. You need specify which resistor you are using. Better
still, you should contact the manufacturer, as he/she will be able to
provide all the data you require. Even betterer, would be for you to measure
the inductive reactance of the resistor, as this data is likely to be far
more useful to you.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

Phil Allison
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Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:06 am   



"StrandElectric"
Quote:
"Phil Allison" "StrandElectric"

Can anybody with a good inductance meter, please measure a 10 watt
wirewound resistor of 820ohms and tell me the inductance.

** The inductance is so small it is totally irrelevant compared to the
820 ohms of resistance.


Phil. That depends entirely on the frequency in use, in this case up to 30
Megs!


** The change in impedance is not going to be more than 2 ohms - and might
be up or down.

Quote:
I still neeed that measurement.

** Try using this.

http://www.daycounter.com/Calculators/Air-Core-Inductor-Calculator.phtml

You should get about 0.3 uH

At 30 MHz, this has a Z of 56 ohms

The new impedance of your 820 ohm resistor is then 822 ohms - in theory.

You are wasting your time.


...... Phil

Phil Allison
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Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:11 am   



"Trevor Wilson"
Quote:
StrandElectric wrote:

Can anybody with a good inductance meter, please measure a 10 watt
wirewound resistor of 820oms and tell me the inductance. I am
getting wildly different figures from various sources.

**That's because there is no one, correct answer. Some wirewound resistors
are bifilar wound,

** Invariably labelled "non inductive" and cost way more.

Quote:
You need specify which resistor you are using.

** 10W, WW = standard rectangular cement coated resistor.

Quote:
Better still, you should contact the manufacturer, as he/she will be able
to provide all the data you require.

** If you speak Chinese.

Quote:
Even betterer, would be for you to measure the inductive reactance of the
resistor,

** OK - you go get a 10W, 820 or 1000ohm cement resistor and YOU measure
its inductance.

Go on - try !!


..... Phil

Bruce Varley
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Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:37 am   



"StrandElectric" <Strand_at_dummyspit> wrote in message
news:4e004ab0$1_at_dnews.tpgi.com.au...
Quote:
Can anybody with a good inductance meter, please measure a 10 watt
wirewound resistor of 820oms and tell me the inductance. I am getting
wildly different figures from various sources.

Thanks all.
*if* it's a straight coil of wire with an air core, then Wheelers formula

gives a reasonable result for inductance.

L (uH) = (r*r + n*n) / (9r + 10l)

Dimensions all in inches.
r = coil radius
n = no of turns
l = coil cylinder length

StrandElectric
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Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:13 am   



"Phil Allison" <phil_a_at_tpg.com.au> wrote in message
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Quote:

"StrandElectric"
"Phil Allison" "StrandElectric"

Can anybody with a good inductance meter, please measure a 10 watt
wirewound resistor of 820ohms and tell me the inductance.

** The inductance is so small it is totally irrelevant compared to the
820 ohms of resistance.


Phil. That depends entirely on the frequency in use, in this case up to
30 Megs!


** The change in impedance is not going to be more than 2 ohms - and might
be up or down.

I still neeed that measurement.

** Try using this.

http://www.daycounter.com/Calculators/Air-Core-Inductor-Calculator.phtml

You should get about 0.3 uH

At 30 MHz, this has a Z of 56 ohms

The new impedance of your 820 ohm resistor is then 822 ohms - in theory.

You are wasting your time.


..... Phil

That's a bit hasty Phil, as you don't know what I'm trying to do and what

degree of accuracy I'm aiming at..

StrandElectric
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Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:15 am   



"Trevor Wilson" <trevor_at_rageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
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Quote:
StrandElectric wrote:
Can anybody with a good inductance meter, please measure a 10 watt
wirewound resistor of 820oms and tell me the inductance. I am
getting wildly different figures from various sources.

**That's because there is no one, correct answer. Some wirewound resistors
are bifilar wound, which exhibits far lower inductance figures than
regular wound resistors. You need specify which resistor you are using.
Better still, you should contact the manufacturer, as he/she will be able
to provide all the data you require. Even betterer, would be for you to
measure the inductive reactance of the resistor, as this data is likely to
be far more useful to you.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au
Agreed Trevor, but my crude instrument is very poor at measuring L. I was

hoping that someone who uses Jaycar 10% R would also have a decent measuring
instrument.

StrandElectric
Guest

Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:16 am   



"Phil Allison" <phil_a_at_tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:96dfc0Fej9U1_at_mid.individual.net...
Quote:

"Trevor Wilson"
StrandElectric wrote:

Can anybody with a good inductance meter, please measure a 10 watt
wirewound resistor of 820oms and tell me the inductance. I am
getting wildly different figures from various sources.

**That's because there is no one, correct answer. Some wirewound
resistors are bifilar wound,

** Invariably labelled "non inductive" and cost way more.

You need specify which resistor you are using.

** 10W, WW = standard rectangular cement coated resistor.

Better still, you should contact the manufacturer, as he/she will be able
to provide all the data you require.

** If you speak Chinese.

Even betterer, would be for you to measure the inductive reactance of the
resistor,

** OK - you go get a 10W, 820 or 1000ohm cement resistor and YOU measure
its inductance.

Go on - try !!


.... Phil

Agreed Phil!


Phil Allison
Guest

Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:27 am   



"StrandElectric"
Quote:
"Phil Allison"

Can anybody with a good inductance meter, please measure a 10 watt
wirewound resistor of 820ohms and tell me the inductance.

** The inductance is so small it is totally irrelevant compared to the
820 ohms of resistance.


Phil. That depends entirely on the frequency in use, in this case up to
30 Megs!


** The change in impedance is not going to be more than 2 ohms - and
might be up or down.

I still neeed that measurement.

** Try using this.

http://www.daycounter.com/Calculators/Air-Core-Inductor-Calculator.phtml

You should get about 0.3 uH

At 30 MHz, this has a Z of 56 ohms

The new impedance of your 820 ohm resistor is then 822 ohms - in theory.

You are wasting your time.


That's a bit hasty Phil,

** No it is not.

Quote:
as you don't know what I'm trying to do


** Not knowing what you are doing IS your problem !!

You know nothing twit.



..... Phil

Phil Allison
Guest

Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:33 am   



"StrandElectric"

Quote:
Agreed Trevor, but my crude instrument is very poor at measuring L. I was
hoping that someone who uses Jaycar 10% R would also have a decent
measuring instrument.


** Calculate the impedance of 20pF of stray capacitance at 30MHz.

I'll even give you the formula:

Xc = sq. rt ( 2 . pi . F .C )

Imbecile.


..... Phil

Phil Allison
Guest

Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:35 am   



"Phil Allison"


I'll even give you the formula:

Xc = 1 / ( 2 . pi . F .C )




..... Phil

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