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Gish
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Sat Feb 19, 2005 9:41 pm   



Hi Guys

I have some SPICE code that runs perfectly in HSPICE but will not run
in PSPICE due to issues with "subcircuit expansion." If there's any
experts out there who could take a quick look at this and let me know
what the issue might be I'd appreciate it.

Thanks


******************************************************
**** circuit description
******************************************************
rs in inp 50
r1 inp vss 1K
x1 inp inm out vss my_opamp
rf out inm 100K
r2 inm vss 1K
******************************************************
**** parameters section
******************************************************
******************************************************
**** sources section
******************************************************
v1 in vss sin(0V 60mV 10x 100ps 0)
v2 vss 0 dc 0V
******************************************************
**** specify nominal temperature of circuit in degrees C
******************************************************
..TEMP= 60
******************************************************
**** analysis section
******************************************************
..tran 1ns 200ns
..END

Jim Thompson
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Sun Feb 20, 2005 5:57 pm   



On 19 Feb 2005 20:25:20 -0800, "Gish" <andrewgish_at_comcast.net> wrote:

Quote:
Ok,

I actually figured everything out except for one line...

E1 out ref in+ in- MAX=5V MIN=-5V opamp_gain

I'm trying to code a VCVS with maximum and minimum output values, but
PSPICE rejects the MAX and MIN parts. Any ideas?

Thanks

Gish wrote:
Hi Guys

I have some SPICE code that runs perfectly in HSPICE but will not run
in PSPICE due to issues with "subcircuit expansion." If there's any
experts out there who could take a quick look at this and let me know
what the issue might be I'd appreciate it.

Thanks
[snip]


Here are a few of the operators in PSpice BEHAVIORAL elements:

LIMIT(x,min,max) result is min if x < min, max if x > max, and x
otherwise

MAX(x,y) maximum of x and y

MIN(x,y) minimum of x and y

In addition you must use the BEHAVIORAL syntax of the E-source

So the correct expression for E1 is:

E1 out ref VALUE = {LIMIT((opamp_gain*V(in+,in-)),MIN,MAX)}

..PARAM MAX=5V MIN=-5V opamp_gain=100K

(Or put the numerics directly in the expression.)

This is convergence risk using mathematical limits, since they are
hard, and derivatives don't exist at the limit points.

I prefer using the TANH expression:

E1 1 0 VALUE {(tanh(A*V(INP,INN))+1)/2}
E2 OUT 0 VALUE {V(1,0)*(VP-VN)+VN}

..PARAM A=100K ; OpAmp Gain
..PARAM VP=+5V ; Positive Limit
..PARAM VN=-5V ; Negative Limit

(Note that exact gain is an interaction between A, VP, and VN (E1
produces 0 ->1), but I'm still too sleepy this morning to make an
exact expression :)

...Jim Thompson
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Jim Thompson
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Sun Feb 20, 2005 6:40 pm   



On 19 Feb 2005 20:25:20 -0800, "Gish" <andrewgish_at_comcast.net> wrote:

Quote:
Ok,

I actually figured everything out except for one line...

E1 out ref in+ in- MAX=5V MIN=-5V opamp_gain

I'm trying to code a VCVS with maximum and minimum output values, but
PSPICE rejects the MAX and MIN parts. Any ideas?

Thanks

[snip]


Are you using PSpice "raw", i.e. without schematic capture?

Both PSpice Schematics and Capture (gag me with a spoon) have the
correct netlist TEMPLATE contained within the symbol.

(Not that I should be one to criticize. I went for MANY years drawing
schematics with pencil and paper, numbering nodes, hand-typing
netlists, and batch-loading into Berkeley Spice 2G6 on an old VAX,
IIRC, 1170. Then I discovered PC's and bought my first 386 for $6K...
cheap because it was a clone :-)

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

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