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Phil Allison
Guest
Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:43 am
** Hi all,
when a householder decides to "go solar" and get PVs plastered all over
their roof - an electrician installs a converter box so power can be fed
back into the grid on sunny days.
My question is does the relevant energy supplier have to be informed of this
?
Do they keep a record of all home solar installations ?
If for no other reason, so they will not be alarmed by the sudden drop in
consumption as shown on the customer's meter.
...... Phil
Dave Goldfinch
Guest
Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:13 am
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 11:43:13 +1000, "Phil Allison" <phil_a_at_tpg.com.au>
wrote:
Quote:
** Hi all,
when a householder decides to "go solar" and get PVs plastered all over
their roof - an electrician installs a converter box so power can be fed
back into the grid on sunny days.
My question is does the relevant energy supplier have to be informed of this
?
Do they keep a record of all home solar installations ?
If for no other reason, so they will not be alarmed by the sudden drop in
consumption as shown on the customer's meter.
..... Phil
Hi Phil
I am in the process of getting a solar installation and had to get
Western Power (I am in WA) approval, but not sure if this is only
because I hope to get paid for what the panels push back into the
grid.
Dave Goldfinch
Gordon
Guest
Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:55 am
"Phil Allison" wrote in message news:9ae621Fsd2U1_at_mid.individual.net...
** Hi all,
when a householder decides to "go solar" and get PVs plastered all over
their roof - an electrician installs a converter box so power can be fed
back into the grid on sunny days.
My question is does the relevant energy supplier have to be informed of this
?
***yes because they have to connect to the grid with a different meter that
reads in and out power
Do they keep a record of all home solar installations ?
*** I guess so as they pay us 50 cents a kwh
If for no other reason, so they will not be alarmed by the sudden drop in
consumption as shown on the customer's meter.
...... Phil
Jeßus
Guest
Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:55 am
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 11:43:13 +1000, "Phil Allison" <phil_a_at_tpg.com.au>
wrote:
Quote:
** Hi all,
when a householder decides to "go solar" and get PVs plastered all over
their roof - an electrician installs a converter box so power can be fed
back into the grid on sunny days.
My question is does the relevant energy supplier have to be informed of this
?
Do they keep a record of all home solar installations ?
If for no other reason, so they will not be alarmed by the sudden drop in
consumption as shown on the customer's meter.
'Alarmed'... alarmed they may be ripping them off? Fuck 'em, it's none
of their business whatsoever.
swanny
Guest
Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:55 am
On 10/08/2011 11:43 AM, Phil Allison wrote:
Quote:
** Hi all,
when a householder decides to "go solar" and get PVs plastered all over
their roof - an electrician installs a converter box so power can be fed
back into the grid on sunny days.
My question is does the relevant energy supplier have to be informed of this
?
Do they keep a record of all home solar installations ?
If for no other reason, so they will not be alarmed by the sudden drop in
consumption as shown on the customer's meter.
..... Phil
Doesn't it usually go through another meter, back into the grid, so as
to calculate the energy being provided by the household? Usually the
authority provides these meters.
terryc
Guest
Wed Aug 10, 2011 5:31 am
Phil Allison wrote:
Quote:
** Hi all,
when a householder decides to "go solar" and get PVs plastered all over
their roof - an electrician installs a converter box so power can be fed
back into the grid on sunny days.
My question is does the relevant energy supplier have to be informed of this
?
Yes. Also needs a safety inspection.
Quote:
Do they keep a record of all home solar installations ?
Yes.
Quote:
If for no other reason, so they will not be alarmed by the sudden drop in
consumption as shown on the customer's meter.
In previous months, depending on state(?) you could earn payment/credits
for any extra you generate. YMMV.
Phil Allison
Guest
Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:40 am
"swanny"
Quote:
Doesn't it usually go through another meter, back into the grid, so as
to calculate the energy being provided by the household? Usually the
authority provides these meters.
** OK - that is the crucial bit of info I was missing.
So the electricity meter reader has to take TWO readings.
..... Phil
Rheilly Phoull
Guest
Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:18 pm
On 8/10/2011 7:40 PM, Phil Allison wrote:
Quote:
"swanny"
Doesn't it usually go through another meter, back into the grid, so as
to calculate the energy being provided by the household? Usually the
authority provides these meters.
** OK - that is the crucial bit of info I was missing.
So the electricity meter reader has to take TWO readings.
.... Phil
I am under the impression that one had to have a "smart" meter installed
(at a cost of course) that could be read remotely to compile the rebate
or charges. At least here in West Oz
Cheers ........ Rheilly P
Phil Allison
Guest
Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:44 pm
"Rheilly Phoull"
Quote:
I am under the impression that one had to have a "smart" meter installed
(at a cost of course) that could be read remotely to compile the rebate or
charges. At least here in West Oz
** ROTFL !!!
West Oz = another country, does it ??
Feels to me like WA is as foreign as NZ is to Eastern Australia.
Then of course there is Tasmania ....
And the lawless, speed limitless, hard drinking, boong bashing NT.
While the weightless ACT floats 100 km above the entire nation on hot air.
.... Phil
kreed
Guest
Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:42 am
On Aug 10, 9:40 pm, "Phil Allison" <phi...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
Quote:
"swanny"
Doesn't it usually go through another meter, back into the grid, so as
to calculate the energy being provided by the household? Usually the
authority provides these meters.
** OK - that is the crucial bit of info I was missing.
So the electricity meter reader has to take TWO readings.
.... Phil
The ones that I have seen used in QLD have 3 readings, one for power
metering, one for off peak hot water metering, and one for the power
fed back into the grid
They have an LCD display and 2 buttons to cycle through the menu to
read this information as well as the current voltage, frequency, amps
being drawn by the premises etc.
At my place, they have still left the old meter, and it just turns
backwards for excess solar fed into the grid. They might not install
one, as the electrician said that the meter panel for the units has
asbestos.
I can put up a pic of the smart meter if anyone is interested. (and
can show me how to host the pic)
terryc
Guest
Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:44 am
Phil Allison wrote:
Quote:
"Rheilly Phoull"
I am under the impression that one had to have a "smart" meter installed
(at a cost of course) that could be read remotely to compile the rebate or
charges. At least here in West Oz
** ROTFL !!!
West Oz = another country, does it ??
State based regulations.
>
Rheilly Phoull
Guest
Thu Aug 11, 2011 2:29 am
On 8/10/2011 10:44 PM, Phil Allison wrote:
Quote:
"Rheilly Phoull"
I am under the impression that one had to have a "smart" meter installed
(at a cost of course) that could be read remotely to compile the rebate or
charges. At least here in West Oz
** ROTFL !!!
West Oz = another country, does it ??
Feels to me like WA is as foreign as NZ is to Eastern Australia.
Then of course there is Tasmania ....
And the lawless, speed limitless, hard drinking, boong bashing NT.
While the weightless ACT floats 100 km above the entire nation on hot air.
... Phil
Suits me Phil,
Wouldn't swap for your lot :-)
Rheilly P
Franc Zabkar
Guest
Sat Aug 13, 2011 8:41 pm
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 15:42:00 -0700 (PDT), kreed
<kenreed1999_at_gmail.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:
Quote:
The ones that I have seen used in QLD have 3 readings, one for power
metering, one for off peak hot water metering, and one for the power
fed back into the grid
Same here in NSW. It's called "gross" metering. We are paid 66c for
each kWh generated, irrespective of how much we use.
Quote:
They have an LCD display and 2 buttons to cycle through the menu to
read this information as well as the current voltage, frequency, amps
being drawn by the premises etc.
Ours is electromechanical.
Quote:
At my place, they have still left the old meter, and it just turns
backwards for excess solar fed into the grid. They might not install
one, as the electrician said that the meter panel for the units has
asbestos.
Your location appears to be using "net" metering.
- Franc Zabkar
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Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
Phil Allison
Guest
Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:20 am
"kreed"
Quote:
You only get paid for the unused excess you feed back in,
** Nope - the payment is for any and all power fed back.
The total amount is deducted from the bill.
Quote:
so if you are using all the solar power that is being generated,
** Nearly all do - and a bunch of grid power on top.
Quote:
you get zero (and pay zero)
** Nonsense.
.... Phil
kreed
Guest
Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:30 am
On Aug 14, 6:41 am, Franc Zabkar <fzab...@iinternode.on.net> wrote:
Quote:
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 15:42:00 -0700 (PDT), kreed
kenreed1...@gmail.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:
The ones that I have seen used in QLD have 3 readings, one for power
metering, one for off peak hot water metering, and one for the power
fed back into the grid
Same here in NSW. It's called "gross" metering. We are paid 66c for
each kWh generated, irrespective of how much we use.
They have an LCD display and 2 buttons to cycle through the menu to
read this information as well as the current voltage, frequency, amps
being drawn by the premises etc.
Ours is electromechanical.
At my place, they have still left the old meter, and it just turns
backwards for excess solar fed into the grid. They might not install
one, as the electrician said that the meter panel for the units has
asbestos.
Your location appears to be using "net" metering.
You only get paid for the unused excess you feed back in, so if you
are using
all the solar power that is being generated, you get zero (and pay
zero)
Quote:
- Franc Zabkar
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Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
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