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John Larkin
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Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:32 pm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2095509/Eastern-European-death-toll-hits-150-big-freeze-continues-continent.html
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Jan Panteltje
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Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:53 pm
On a sunny day (Fri, 03 Feb 2012 08:32:01 -0800) it happened John Larkin
<jjlarkin_at_highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
<ev2oi7l9q8restdqij4vroj7vsorcnonnl_at_4ax.com>:
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It was snowing here too, minus 9°C seen,
lower expected, maybe -13°C in the weekend.
The wind is east and carries all that cold here.
3 cm snow so far.
It is not so bad, in the afternoon the thermostat switches of the heating
as the sun is in my window in the south, and it still is above 21 C.
Good weather to sit behind the keyboard...
Too flat land for skying here.
Bill Sloman
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Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:19 pm
On Feb 3, 5:32 pm, John Larkin
<jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
Quote:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2095509/Eastern-European-deat...
But lousy weather. We had another couple of inches of snow this
afternoon and its cold.
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Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
George Herold
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Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:15 pm
On Feb 3, 12:53 pm, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
On a sunny day (Fri, 03 Feb 2012 08:32:01 -0800) it happened John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
ev2oi7l9q8restdqij4vroj7vsorcno...@4ax.com>:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2095509/Eastern-European-deat...
It was snowing here too, minus 9°C seen,
lower expected, maybe -13°C in the weekend.
The wind is east and carries all that cold here.
3 cm snow so far.
It is not so bad, in the afternoon the thermostat switches of the heating
as the sun is in my window in the south, and it still is above 21 C.
Good weather to sit behind the keyboard...
Too flat land for skying here.
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
ev2oi7l9q8restdqij4vroj7vsorcno...@4ax.com>:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2095509/Eastern-European-deat...
It was snowing here too, minus 9°C seen,
lower expected, maybe -13°C in the weekend.
The wind is east and carries all that cold here.
3 cm snow so far.
It is not so bad, in the afternoon the thermostat switches of the heating
as the sun is in my window in the south, and it still is above 21 C.
Good weather to sit behind the keyboard...
Too flat land for skying here.
X-contry sking, perhaps.
It's been the worst (warmest) winter I can remember here. Dang,
Pacific air is keeping the temperature above freezing. Only a little
bit of snow, and we are usually good for 10 feet at least. I've had
the snow plow down the driveway exactly once. And I needn't have
bothered, the snow melted in a few days anyway.
Perhaps you all could 'flap some butterfly wings' over there and push
the wiggle in the jet stream back around to my hemishpere.
George H.
Okkim Atnarivik
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Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:18 pm
Beautiful pictures indeed! We are having the annual cold spell
which occurs when the siberian cold airmass moves westwards. This
time the airmass seems to have taken a slightly more southern
route, as it is not as cold here in north as it could have been,
-15C maybe, with -20C predicted for the weekend.
Didn't Martin Brown mention in some of his recent post that
the more exposed arctic seawater changes wind patterns to a
more southward course? Don't know if this is what's happening
but (without checking) sure looks like it.
Regards,
Mikko
Okkim Atnarivik
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Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:48 pm
Okkim Atnarivik wrote:
Quote:
Didn't Martin Brown mention in some of his recent post that
the more exposed arctic seawater changes wind patterns to
a more southward course?
the more exposed arctic seawater changes wind patterns to
a more southward course?
Checking from here http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/
see in the "Northern Hemisphere / 30-day animation" how a
snowy finger extends from Russia to the southern Europe,
while northern Germany and even southern Sweden are
left green.
That is an ugly surprise to those poor southerners who
aren't accustomed to it - I hope they'll manage.
Simultaneously the "N. hemispheric ice area" plot in the
same web page indicates receeding polar ice cap compared
to previous years. But I guess it is too simplistic to
stare at one single correlation only, when the system
is as complicated as weather.
Regards,
Mikko
Bill Sloman
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Sat Feb 04, 2012 1:27 am
On Feb 3, 7:18 pm, Okkim Atnarivik
<Okkim.Atnari...@twentyfour.fi.invalid> wrote:
Quote:
Beautiful pictures indeed! We are having the annual cold spell
which occurs when the siberian cold airmass moves westwards. This
time the airmass seems to have taken a slightly more southern
route, as it is not as cold here in north as it could have been,
-15C maybe, with -20C predicted for the weekend.
Didn't Martin Brown mention in some of his recent post that
the more exposed arctic seawater changes wind patterns to a
more southward course? Don't know if this is what's happening
but (without checking) sure looks like it.
which occurs when the siberian cold airmass moves westwards. This
time the airmass seems to have taken a slightly more southern
route, as it is not as cold here in north as it could have been,
-15C maybe, with -20C predicted for the weekend.
Didn't Martin Brown mention in some of his recent post that
the more exposed arctic seawater changes wind patterns to a
more southward course? Don't know if this is what's happening
but (without checking) sure looks like it.
Search on Barents-Kara Sea Ice. The paper came out in 2010
http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2010/2009JD013568.shtml
I think this is the content. It's been posted here before.
http://eprints.ifm-geomar.de/8738/1/2009JD013568-pip.pdf
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Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
Mark Zenier
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Sun Feb 05, 2012 6:52 pm
In article <jgha65$a4t$2_at_epityr.hut.fi>,
Okkim Atnarivik <Okkim.Atnarivik_at_twentyfour.fi.invalid> wrote:
Quote:
Okkim Atnarivik wrote:
Didn't Martin Brown mention in some of his recent post that
the more exposed arctic seawater changes wind patterns to
a more southward course?
Checking from here http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/
see in the "Northern Hemisphere / 30-day animation" how a
snowy finger extends from Russia to the southern Europe,
while northern Germany and even southern Sweden are
left green.
That is an ugly surprise to those poor southerners who
aren't accustomed to it - I hope they'll manage.
Simultaneously the "N. hemispheric ice area" plot in the
same web page indicates receeding polar ice cap compared
to previous years. But I guess it is too simplistic to
stare at one single correlation only, when the system
is as complicated as weather.
Regards,
Mikko
Didn't Martin Brown mention in some of his recent post that
the more exposed arctic seawater changes wind patterns to
a more southward course?
Checking from here http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/
see in the "Northern Hemisphere / 30-day animation" how a
snowy finger extends from Russia to the southern Europe,
while northern Germany and even southern Sweden are
left green.
That is an ugly surprise to those poor southerners who
aren't accustomed to it - I hope they'll manage.
Simultaneously the "N. hemispheric ice area" plot in the
same web page indicates receeding polar ice cap compared
to previous years. But I guess it is too simplistic to
stare at one single correlation only, when the system
is as complicated as weather.
Regards,
Mikko
The 17 December New Scientist had an article on this (with
references to journal articles).
Executive summary: the polar weather system is driven by the temperature
difference. The greater the difference, the tighter the polar jet stream
constrains the weather to the pole. The lower the difference gets, as
the north warms, the looser the jet stream gets, wandering down south
in big loops bringing the polar weather with it.
Mark Zenier mzenier_at_eskimo.com
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)
John Larkin
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Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:02 pm
On Sun, 5 Feb 2012 17:52:03 GMT, mzenier_at_eskimo.com (Mark Zenier)
wrote:
Quote:
In article <jgha65$a4t$2_at_epityr.hut.fi>,
Okkim Atnarivik <Okkim.Atnarivik_at_twentyfour.fi.invalid> wrote:
Okkim Atnarivik wrote:
Didn't Martin Brown mention in some of his recent post that
the more exposed arctic seawater changes wind patterns to
a more southward course?
Checking from here http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/
see in the "Northern Hemisphere / 30-day animation" how a
snowy finger extends from Russia to the southern Europe,
while northern Germany and even southern Sweden are
left green.
That is an ugly surprise to those poor southerners who
aren't accustomed to it - I hope they'll manage.
Simultaneously the "N. hemispheric ice area" plot in the
same web page indicates receeding polar ice cap compared
to previous years. But I guess it is too simplistic to
stare at one single correlation only, when the system
is as complicated as weather.
Regards,
Mikko
The 17 December New Scientist had an article on this (with
references to journal articles).
Executive summary: the polar weather system is driven by the temperature
difference. The greater the difference, the tighter the polar jet stream
constrains the weather to the pole. The lower the difference gets, as
the north warms, the looser the jet stream gets, wandering down south
in big loops bringing the polar weather with it.
Okkim Atnarivik <Okkim.Atnarivik_at_twentyfour.fi.invalid> wrote:
Okkim Atnarivik wrote:
Didn't Martin Brown mention in some of his recent post that
the more exposed arctic seawater changes wind patterns to
a more southward course?
Checking from here http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/
see in the "Northern Hemisphere / 30-day animation" how a
snowy finger extends from Russia to the southern Europe,
while northern Germany and even southern Sweden are
left green.
That is an ugly surprise to those poor southerners who
aren't accustomed to it - I hope they'll manage.
Simultaneously the "N. hemispheric ice area" plot in the
same web page indicates receeding polar ice cap compared
to previous years. But I guess it is too simplistic to
stare at one single correlation only, when the system
is as complicated as weather.
Regards,
Mikko
The 17 December New Scientist had an article on this (with
references to journal articles).
Executive summary: the polar weather system is driven by the temperature
difference. The greater the difference, the tighter the polar jet stream
constrains the weather to the pole. The lower the difference gets, as
the north warms, the looser the jet stream gets, wandering down south
in big loops bringing the polar weather with it.
Climatologists are great at predicting things that have already
happened.
--
John Larkin, President
Highland Technology, Inc
jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com
Precision electronic instrumentation
Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators
Custom laser controllers
Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links
VME thermocouple, LVDT, synchro acquisition and simulation
Ken S. Tucker
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Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:17 pm
On Feb 3, 8:32 am, John Larkin
<jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2095509/Eastern-European-deat...
Deaths more likely in the thousands as the side effects such as
pneumonia
and flu result from cold poorly insulated homes.
Here in south central BC, winter has been average.
Ken
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John Larkin, President Highland Technology Incwww.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com
Precision electronic instrumentation
Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators
Custom timing and laser controllers
Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links
VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer
Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators
Bill Sloman
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Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:55 am
On Feb 6, 8:02 pm, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Sun, 5 Feb 2012 17:52:03 GMT, mzen...@eskimo.com (Mark Zenier)
wrote:
In article <jgha65$a4...@epityr.hut.fi>,
Okkim Atnarivik <Okkim.Atnari...@twentyfour.fi.invalid> wrote:
Okkim Atnarivik wrote:
Didn't Martin Brown mention in some of his recent post that
the more exposed arctic seawater changes wind patterns to
a more southward course?
Checking from herehttp://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/
see in the "Northern Hemisphere / 30-day animation" how a
snowy finger extends from Russia to the southern Europe,
while northern Germany and even southern Sweden are
left green.
That is an ugly surprise to those poor southerners who
aren't accustomed to it - I hope they'll manage.
Simultaneously the "N. hemispheric ice area" plot in the
same web page indicates receeding polar ice cap compared
to previous years. But I guess it is too simplistic to
stare at one single correlation only, when the system
is as complicated as weather.
Regards,
Mikko
The 17 December New Scientist had an article on this (with
references to journal articles).
Executive summary: the polar weather system is driven by the temperature
difference. The greater the difference, the tighter the polar jet stream
constrains the weather to the pole. The lower the difference gets, as
the north warms, the looser the jet stream gets, wandering down south
in big loops bringing the polar weather with it.
Climatologists are great at predicting things that have already
happened.
wrote:
In article <jgha65$a4...@epityr.hut.fi>,
Okkim Atnarivik <Okkim.Atnari...@twentyfour.fi.invalid> wrote:
Okkim Atnarivik wrote:
Didn't Martin Brown mention in some of his recent post that
the more exposed arctic seawater changes wind patterns to
a more southward course?
Checking from herehttp://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/
see in the "Northern Hemisphere / 30-day animation" how a
snowy finger extends from Russia to the southern Europe,
while northern Germany and even southern Sweden are
left green.
That is an ugly surprise to those poor southerners who
aren't accustomed to it - I hope they'll manage.
Simultaneously the "N. hemispheric ice area" plot in the
same web page indicates receeding polar ice cap compared
to previous years. But I guess it is too simplistic to
stare at one single correlation only, when the system
is as complicated as weather.
Regards,
Mikko
The 17 December New Scientist had an article on this (with
references to journal articles).
Executive summary: the polar weather system is driven by the temperature
difference. The greater the difference, the tighter the polar jet stream
constrains the weather to the pole. The lower the difference gets, as
the north warms, the looser the jet stream gets, wandering down south
in big loops bringing the polar weather with it.
Climatologists are great at predicting things that have already
happened.
Not in this particular case. The paper had been submitted before the
cold snap in the winter 2009-2010, though it took a few months to get
published.
The authors had gotten interested in the common features of a couple
of earlier cold winters - IIRR 1946 and 1976 - and had realised that
the then rare condition of having relatively ice-free Barents and Kara
Seas was going to happen more often as global warming progressed.
As usual, you didn't know what you were talking about.
--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz
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Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:26 am
On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 11:02:47 -0800, John Larkin
<jlarkin_at_highlandtechnology.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Sun, 5 Feb 2012 17:52:03 GMT, mzenier_at_eskimo.com (Mark Zenier)
wrote:
In article <jgha65$a4t$2_at_epityr.hut.fi>,
Okkim Atnarivik <Okkim.Atnarivik_at_twentyfour.fi.invalid> wrote:
Okkim Atnarivik wrote:
Didn't Martin Brown mention in some of his recent post that
the more exposed arctic seawater changes wind patterns to
a more southward course?
Checking from here http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/
see in the "Northern Hemisphere / 30-day animation" how a
snowy finger extends from Russia to the southern Europe,
while northern Germany and even southern Sweden are
left green.
That is an ugly surprise to those poor southerners who
aren't accustomed to it - I hope they'll manage.
Simultaneously the "N. hemispheric ice area" plot in the
same web page indicates receeding polar ice cap compared
to previous years. But I guess it is too simplistic to
stare at one single correlation only, when the system
is as complicated as weather.
Regards,
Mikko
The 17 December New Scientist had an article on this (with
references to journal articles).
Executive summary: the polar weather system is driven by the temperature
difference. The greater the difference, the tighter the polar jet stream
constrains the weather to the pole. The lower the difference gets, as
the north warms, the looser the jet stream gets, wandering down south
in big loops bringing the polar weather with it.
Climatologists are great at predicting things that have already
happened.
wrote:
In article <jgha65$a4t$2_at_epityr.hut.fi>,
Okkim Atnarivik <Okkim.Atnarivik_at_twentyfour.fi.invalid> wrote:
Okkim Atnarivik wrote:
Didn't Martin Brown mention in some of his recent post that
the more exposed arctic seawater changes wind patterns to
a more southward course?
Checking from here http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/
see in the "Northern Hemisphere / 30-day animation" how a
snowy finger extends from Russia to the southern Europe,
while northern Germany and even southern Sweden are
left green.
That is an ugly surprise to those poor southerners who
aren't accustomed to it - I hope they'll manage.
Simultaneously the "N. hemispheric ice area" plot in the
same web page indicates receeding polar ice cap compared
to previous years. But I guess it is too simplistic to
stare at one single correlation only, when the system
is as complicated as weather.
Regards,
Mikko
The 17 December New Scientist had an article on this (with
references to journal articles).
Executive summary: the polar weather system is driven by the temperature
difference. The greater the difference, the tighter the polar jet stream
constrains the weather to the pole. The lower the difference gets, as
the north warms, the looser the jet stream gets, wandering down south
in big loops bringing the polar weather with it.
Climatologists are great at predicting things that have already
happened.
They can't even do that without fudging the data.
amdx
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Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:33 am
Now John, you can't tell me that your post wasn't designed to tweak
Sloman any less than my "If NASA scientists are right the Thames will be
freezing over again" thread!
Mikek
On 2/3/2012 10:32 AM, John Larkin wrote:
Quote:
John Larkin
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Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:59 am
On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 19:33:31 -0600, amdx <amdx_at_knologynotthis.net>
wrote:
Quote:
Now John, you can't tell me that your post wasn't designed to tweak
Sloman any less than my "If NASA scientists are right the Thames will be
freezing over again" thread!
Mikek
Sloman any less than my "If NASA scientists are right the Thames will be
freezing over again" thread!
Mikek
I thought they were beautiful pictures. And Sloman is self-tweaking
anyhow.
--
John Larkin, President
Highland Technology, Inc
jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com
Precision electronic instrumentation
Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators
Custom laser controllers
Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links
VME thermocouple, LVDT, synchro acquisition and simulation
amdx
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Guest
Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:04 am
On 2/6/2012 7:59 PM, John Larkin wrote:
Quote:
On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 19:33:31 -0600, amdx<amdx_at_knologynotthis.net
wrote:
Now John, you can't tell me that your post wasn't designed to tweak
Sloman any less than my "If NASA scientists are right the Thames will be
freezing over again" thread!
Mikek
I thought they were beautiful pictures. And Sloman is self-tweaking
anyhow.
Yes they are neat pictures! But still...
wrote:
Now John, you can't tell me that your post wasn't designed to tweak
Sloman any less than my "If NASA scientists are right the Thames will be
freezing over again" thread!
Mikek
I thought they were beautiful pictures. And Sloman is self-tweaking
anyhow.
Yes they are neat pictures! But still...
Mikek
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