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Certainly. But a lot are, and some companies, especially big ones,
have a style that tends to alienate techs and production workers.

The engineers are blithering idiots, too, if they don't help and
respect the techs.

Unfortunately some have the stupid attitude, I learned everything
Ineed to know in school.

I may not be on line much longer. Another severe weather front is
about to hit, and one tornado has already passed. One is supposedly
heading towards a school a half mile from me, right now. They are
warning you to seek shelter, but I don't have a safe room.

On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:44:17 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin_at_highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:


It's your choice to be what you want to be. You have chosen, in this
group, to have no friends, to be foul and hostile, and to be
universally mocked.

Bullshit. Between you, the krw retard, ThompsonTard, and TerrellTard, I
have no chance of being a group participant.

In such a case, why would I ever want to be ANY kind a friend to a
total fucktard like any of you retarded bastards? Mock away, dumbfucks.
It only exposes YOUR immaturity.

If that's your idea of smart, well, enjoy.

My fucking bodily excretions have more on the ball than you do.

My fucking bodily excretions have more on the ball than you do.

You are in love with excretions. And you hate women. Just come out...
you'll be happier.

On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:50:16 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin_at_highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:


Certainly. But a lot are, and some companies, especially big ones,
have a style that tends to alienate techs and production workers.


You could be a little more full of shit, but not today.

On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:50:16 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin_at_highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

The engineers are blithering idiots, too, if they don't help and
respect the techs.


Said the dumbfuck that just spent the last two posts (3 if we count this
one) putting down every tech in existence.

Got any more inane, retarded horseshit to fill the group with,
dumbfucktard?

John Larkin wrote:

He has the worst case of Angry Tech Syndrome that I've ever seen, and
I've seen some bad ones.

ATS is common in Silicon Valley, where the engineers are superstars
and the techs are too often at the bottom of the glamour heap. The
admins date the managers and engineers, not the techs. The techs know
that the engineers do math and other magic they can't understand, so
react by announcing that the engineers are pansy idiot eggheads, and
wear cowboy hats and drive jacked-up 4x4s to show how manly they are.
As the techs get older and work for young engineers who make twice
what they do, they get even madder.

Bad dynamics for sure, which is why my company doesn't have techs.


Not all techs are like that, John. Some can be a real asset to their
company, and often spot things others miss. I sat through more than one
design review as a tech. Not that some of the engineers liked it,
because I wasn't afraid to point out valid mistakes. I never pointed to
an individual and blamed them, though. Whenever possible, I caught them
away from others and gave them the information. Most appreciated it,
but two would blow up every time.

Rather than 'Do a dimbulb', I had researched the issue and found what
we needed to do to fix the problem, and never demanded credit for the
fix. I've met blithering idiots like dimbulb at a couple companies.
Usually, they had been there 15 or 20 years and were at the top of the
tech food chain, yet their skills were well out of date. Several
reminded me of the PHB in Dilbert strips.

On 3/11/2010 11:38 AM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

He has the worst case of Angry Tech Syndrome that I've ever seen, and
I've seen some bad ones.

ATS is common in Silicon Valley, where the engineers are superstars
and the techs are too often at the bottom of the glamour heap. The
admins date the managers and engineers, not the techs. The techs know
that the engineers do math and other magic they can't understand, so
react by announcing that the engineers are pansy idiot eggheads, and
wear cowboy hats and drive jacked-up 4x4s to show how manly they are.
As the techs get older and work for young engineers who make twice
what they do, they get even madder.

Bad dynamics for sure, which is why my company doesn't have techs.


Not all techs are like that, John. Some can be a real asset to their
company, and often spot things others miss. I sat through more than one
design review as a tech. Not that some of the engineers liked it,
because I wasn't afraid to point out valid mistakes. I never pointed to
an individual and blamed them, though. Whenever possible, I caught them
away from others and gave them the information. Most appreciated it,
but two would blow up every time.

Rather than 'Do a dimbulb', I had researched the issue and found what
we needed to do to fix the problem, and never demanded credit for the
fix. I've met blithering idiots like dimbulb at a couple companies.
Usually, they had been there 15 or 20 years and were at the top of the
tech food chain, yet their skills were well out of date. Several
reminded me of the PHB in Dilbert strips. :(

I've also worked with some really great techs and other folk with
associate's degrees. The good ones bring a level of care and attention
to detail that's often missing in the hotshots. Having one or two of
those folks around can make things go amazingly better.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:49:14 -0800, StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt
Zarathustra_at_thusspoke.org> wrote:

On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:50:16 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin_at_highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:


Certainly. But a lot are, and some companies, especially big ones,
have a style that tends to alienate techs and production workers.


You could be a little more full of shit, but not today.

More poop, DimBulb.

On 3/11/2010 11:38 AM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

He has the worst case of Angry Tech Syndrome that I've ever seen, and
I've seen some bad ones.

ATS is common in Silicon Valley, where the engineers are superstars
and the techs are too often at the bottom of the glamour heap. The
admins date the managers and engineers, not the techs. The techs know
that the engineers do math and other magic they can't understand, so
react by announcing that the engineers are pansy idiot eggheads, and
wear cowboy hats and drive jacked-up 4x4s to show how manly they are.
As the techs get older and work for young engineers who make twice
what they do, they get even madder.

Bad dynamics for sure, which is why my company doesn't have techs.


Not all techs are like that, John. Some can be a real asset to their
company, and often spot things others miss. I sat through more than one
design review as a tech. Not that some of the engineers liked it,
because I wasn't afraid to point out valid mistakes. I never pointed to
an individual and blamed them, though. Whenever possible, I caught them
away from others and gave them the information. Most appreciated it,
but two would blow up every time.

Rather than 'Do a dimbulb', I had researched the issue and found what
we needed to do to fix the problem, and never demanded credit for the
fix. I've met blithering idiots like dimbulb at a couple companies.
Usually, they had been there 15 or 20 years and were at the top of the
tech food chain, yet their skills were well out of date. Several
reminded me of the PHB in Dilbert strips. :(

I've also worked with some really great techs and other folk with
associate's degrees. The good ones bring a level of care and attention
to detail that's often missing in the hotshots. Having one or two of
those folks around can make things go amazingly better.

On 3/11/2010 11:38 AM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

He has the worst case of Angry Tech Syndrome that I've ever seen, and
I've seen some bad ones.

ATS is common in Silicon Valley, where the engineers are superstars
and the techs are too often at the bottom of the glamour heap. The
admins date the managers and engineers, not the techs. The techs know
that the engineers do math and other magic they can't understand, so
react by announcing that the engineers are pansy idiot eggheads, and
wear cowboy hats and drive jacked-up 4x4s to show how manly they are.
As the techs get older and work for young engineers who make twice
what they do, they get even madder.

Bad dynamics for sure, which is why my company doesn't have techs.


Not all techs are like that, John. Some can be a real asset to their
company, and often spot things others miss. I sat through more than one
design review as a tech. Not that some of the engineers liked it,
because I wasn't afraid to point out valid mistakes. I never pointed to
an individual and blamed them, though. Whenever possible, I caught them
away from others and gave them the information. Most appreciated it,
but two would blow up every time.

Rather than 'Do a dimbulb', I had researched the issue and found what
we needed to do to fix the problem, and never demanded credit for the
fix. I've met blithering idiots like dimbulb at a couple companies.
Usually, they had been there 15 or 20 years and were at the top of the
tech food chain, yet their skills were well out of date. Several
reminded me of the PHB in Dilbert strips. :(

I've also worked with some really great techs and other folk with
associate's degrees. The good ones bring a level of care and attention
to detail that's often missing in the hotshots. Having one or two of
those folks around can make things go amazingly better.

I've also worked with some really great techs and other folk with
associate's degrees. The good ones bring a level of care and attention
to detail that's often missing in the hotshots. Having one or two of
those folks around can make things go amazingly better.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs wrote:

On 3/11/2010 11:38 AM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

He has the worst case of Angry Tech Syndrome that I've ever seen, and
I've seen some bad ones.

ATS is common in Silicon Valley, where the engineers are superstars
and the techs are too often at the bottom of the glamour heap. The
admins date the managers and engineers, not the techs. The techs know
that the engineers do math and other magic they can't understand, so
react by announcing that the engineers are pansy idiot eggheads, and
wear cowboy hats and drive jacked-up 4x4s to show how manly they are.
As the techs get older and work for young engineers who make twice
what they do, they get even madder.

Bad dynamics for sure, which is why my company doesn't have techs.


Not all techs are like that, John. Some can be a real asset to their
company, and often spot things others miss. I sat through more than one
design review as a tech. Not that some of the engineers liked it,
because I wasn't afraid to point out valid mistakes. I never pointed to
an individual and blamed them, though. Whenever possible, I caught them
away from others and gave them the information. Most appreciated it,
but two would blow up every time.

Rather than 'Do a dimbulb', I had researched the issue and found what
we needed to do to fix the problem, and never demanded credit for the
fix. I've met blithering idiots like dimbulb at a couple companies.
Usually, they had been there 15 or 20 years and were at the top of the
tech food chain, yet their skills were well out of date. Several
reminded me of the PHB in Dilbert strips. :(

I've also worked with some really great techs and other folk with
associate's degrees. The good ones bring a level of care and attention
to detail that's often missing in the hotshots. Having one or two of
those folks around can make things go amazingly better.


It's been my experience that about 10% of the techs I've known enjoy
working in electronics. The others had bad attitudes and felt that "It's
just a job!". Their attitude and level of work displayed that attitude,
as well. Some were competent techs, but had obviously burnt out, on
down to the dimbulb category that were useless but related to someone in
management.