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Raveninghorde
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Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:22 pm
On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 05:58:42 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net> wrote:
Quote:
No damn way!
It's 21 degrees in Ocala right now and expected to get colder. They are
forecasting some snow, and this may become one of the longest cold
spells on record with another cold front headed this way.
http://www.physorg.com/news184044612.html
/quote
Star and brain corals, large species that can take hundreds of years
to grow, were as white and lifeless as bones, frozen to death. There
were also dead sea turtles, eels and parrotfish littering the bottom.
"Corals didn't even have a chance to bleach. They just went straight
to dead," said Johnson, who joined teams of divers last week surveying
reefs in the Florida Keys National Marine Sanctuary. "It's really
ecosystem-wide mortality."
/end quote
I was diving from Key Largo in 2005. Doesn't look like the shallow
dives will be too good for a while.
Jim Thompson
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Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:36 pm
On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 21:22:44 +0000, Raveninghorde
<raveninghorde_at_invalid> wrote:
Quote:
On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 05:58:42 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net> wrote:
No damn way!
It's 21 degrees in Ocala right now and expected to get colder. They are
forecasting some snow, and this may become one of the longest cold
spells on record with another cold front headed this way.
http://www.physorg.com/news184044612.html
/quote
Star and brain corals, large species that can take hundreds of years
to grow, were as white and lifeless as bones, frozen to death. There
were also dead sea turtles, eels and parrotfish littering the bottom.
"Corals didn't even have a chance to bleach. They just went straight
to dead," said Johnson, who joined teams of divers last week surveying
reefs in the Florida Keys National Marine Sanctuary. "It's really
ecosystem-wide mortality."
/end quote
I was diving from Key Largo in 2005. Doesn't look like the shallow
dives will be too good for a while.
"Brain" corals are touchy little beasts... I've had two (out of three)
turn to stone in my "chiller" stabilized tank (78ºF).
...Jim Thompson
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Michael A. Terrell
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Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:11 am
John Larkin wrote:
Quote:
On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 12:23:29 +0100, Uwe Hercksen
hercksen_at_mew.uni-erlangen.de> wrote:
Michael A. Terrell schrieb:
Sigh. Do you know where Ocala is? Or that the entire region used to
be full of citrus groves? Maybe you missed that they all froze out and
died, after 150 years? Do you know 'anything' other than politically
motivated BS? Do you ever think for yourself?
Hello,
we got here the coldest winter since 32 years with very much snow at the
shore of the baltic sea, a region with very few snow normally.
So wait for the winters of the next decades, if most of them are very
cold you may talk of the end of global warming. But only one weather
extreme in an area with normally very warm winters is not at all a
global climate change.
Bye
So why do the warmingists cite every warm spell, hurricane, and beach
erosion as proof of global warming?
Brain damage from the poisoned kool aid their leaders make them
drink? They don't dare think for themselves, then throw a hissy fit when
someone else does.
--
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Michael A. Terrell
Guest
Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:13 am
Paul Keinanen wrote:
Quote:
On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:46:31 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net> wrote:
Uwe Hercksen wrote:
Michael A. Terrell schrieb:
It's 21 degrees in Ocala right now and expected to get colder. They are
forecasting some snow, and this may become one of the longest cold
spells on record with another cold front headed this way.
Hello,
one very cold winter and you foget all the very mild winters of the last
decades? Wait for the winters of the next decades and the next very cold
one.
Sigh. Do you know where Ocala is? Or that the entire region used to
be full of citrus groves? Maybe you missed that they all froze out and
died, after 150 years? Do you know 'anything' other than politically
motivated BS? Do you ever think for yourself?
There was a spectacular fireworks at Jan 28, 1986 some 160 km from
Ocala.
This incident was blamed on freezing temperatures, causing leaking in
the O-rings.
Contemporary news pictures showed ice dripping from citrus fruits.
That was only a short freeze. They just reported that Marion County,
Fl. roads suffered millions of dollars in damage from the long cold
spell. Some roads are so damaged that you can pick it apart with your
fingers.
--
Greed is the root of all eBay.
Raveninghorde
Guest
Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:45 am
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:59:35 -0800, John Larkin
<jjlarkin_at_highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
Quote:
Peer review appears corrupt across other sciences as well as climate.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8490291.stm
/quote
It has also emerged that 14 leading stem cell researchers have written
an open letter to journal editors in order to highlight their
dissatisfaction.
Billions of pounds of public money is spent on funding stem cell
research.
The open letter to the major scientific journals claims that "papers
that are scientifically flawed or comprise only modest technical
increments often attract undue profile. At the same time publication
of truly original findings may be delayed or rejected".
Two internationally-renowned researchers have spoken to BBC News about
their concerns.
They are Robin Lovell-Badge, from the National Institute for Medical
Research (NIMR), and Austin Smith, from the University of Cambridge.
Professor Lovell-Badge said: "It's turning things into a clique where
only papers that satisfy this select group of a few reviewers who
think of themselves as very important people in the field is
published.
/end quote
Uwe Hercksen
Guest
Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:52 pm
Jitt schrieb:
Quote:
And in B.C., Canada, the warmest January ever recorded.
Oh, well
Hello,
well, good luck with the winter Olympics and enough snow...
Bye
Uwe Hercksen
Guest
Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:59 pm
John Larkin schrieb:
Quote:
So why do the warmingists cite every warm spell, hurricane, and beach
erosion as proof of global warming?
Hello,
one very cold winter and a temperature record of 150 years in one place
does not proof that global warming does not exist. If the next decades
are getting colder and the ice around the north pole is growing instead
of shrinking, then we can talk of a probable end of global warming.
Just wait and see, but do wait long enough. One cold winter is nothing.
Bye
John Larkin
Guest
Tue Feb 02, 2010 7:00 pm
On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 09:45:35 +0000, Raveninghorde
<raveninghorde_at_invalid> wrote:
Quote:
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:59:35 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin_at_highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 05:58:42 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net> wrote:
No damn way!
It's 21 degrees in Ocala right now and expected to get colder. They are
forecasting some snow, and this may become one of the longest cold
spells on record with another cold front headed this way.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/7111525/UN-climate-change-panel-based-claims-on-student-dissertation-and-magazine-article.html
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/01/28/save-rainforest-climate-change-scandal-chopped-facts/
John
Peer review appears corrupt across other sciences as well as climate.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8490291.stm
/quote
It has also emerged that 14 leading stem cell researchers have written
an open letter to journal editors in order to highlight their
dissatisfaction.
Billions of pounds of public money is spent on funding stem cell
research.
The open letter to the major scientific journals claims that "papers
that are scientifically flawed or comprise only modest technical
increments often attract undue profile. At the same time publication
of truly original findings may be delayed or rejected".
Two internationally-renowned researchers have spoken to BBC News about
their concerns.
They are Robin Lovell-Badge, from the National Institute for Medical
Research (NIMR), and Austin Smith, from the University of Cambridge.
Professor Lovell-Badge said: "It's turning things into a clique where
only papers that satisfy this select group of a few reviewers who
think of themselves as very important people in the field is
published.
/end quote
Stem cell research is another politics+emotion driven "science." Stems
are treated as x-rays once were, a magical cure-all for everything.
Have any therapies actually worked yet?
The stem cell thing is of course a surrogate for the abortion debate.
John
Raveninghorde
Guest
Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:08 pm
On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 10:00:34 -0800, John Larkin
<jjlarkin_at_highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 09:45:35 +0000, Raveninghorde
raveninghorde_at_invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:59:35 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin_at_highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 05:58:42 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net> wrote:
No damn way!
It's 21 degrees in Ocala right now and expected to get colder. They are
forecasting some snow, and this may become one of the longest cold
spells on record with another cold front headed this way.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/7111525/UN-climate-change-panel-based-claims-on-student-dissertation-and-magazine-article.html
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/01/28/save-rainforest-climate-change-scandal-chopped-facts/
John
Peer review appears corrupt across other sciences as well as climate.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8490291.stm
/quote
It has also emerged that 14 leading stem cell researchers have written
an open letter to journal editors in order to highlight their
dissatisfaction.
Billions of pounds of public money is spent on funding stem cell
research.
The open letter to the major scientific journals claims that "papers
that are scientifically flawed or comprise only modest technical
increments often attract undue profile. At the same time publication
of truly original findings may be delayed or rejected".
Two internationally-renowned researchers have spoken to BBC News about
their concerns.
They are Robin Lovell-Badge, from the National Institute for Medical
Research (NIMR), and Austin Smith, from the University of Cambridge.
Professor Lovell-Badge said: "It's turning things into a clique where
only papers that satisfy this select group of a few reviewers who
think of themselves as very important people in the field is
published.
/end quote
Stem cell research is another politics+emotion driven "science." Stems
are treated as x-rays once were, a magical cure-all for everything.
Have any therapies actually worked yet?
It's no surprise that the big money involved corrupts the peer review
process, just like with climate science.
Quote:
The stem cell thing is of course a surrogate for the abortion debate.
John
I have to say the abortion debate seems to be a peculiarity of the
USA. Some people over here have strong opinions but it is not a big
issue. Animal rights campaigners seem to fill the abortion slot with
extreme actions.
krw
Guest
Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:33 am
On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 10:00:34 -0800, John Larkin
<jjlarkin_at_highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 09:45:35 +0000, Raveninghorde
raveninghorde_at_invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:59:35 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin_at_highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 05:58:42 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net> wrote:
No damn way!
It's 21 degrees in Ocala right now and expected to get colder. They are
forecasting some snow, and this may become one of the longest cold
spells on record with another cold front headed this way.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/7111525/UN-climate-change-panel-based-claims-on-student-dissertation-and-magazine-article.html
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/01/28/save-rainforest-climate-change-scandal-chopped-facts/
John
Peer review appears corrupt across other sciences as well as climate.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8490291.stm
/quote
It has also emerged that 14 leading stem cell researchers have written
an open letter to journal editors in order to highlight their
dissatisfaction.
Billions of pounds of public money is spent on funding stem cell
research.
The open letter to the major scientific journals claims that "papers
that are scientifically flawed or comprise only modest technical
increments often attract undue profile. At the same time publication
of truly original findings may be delayed or rejected".
Two internationally-renowned researchers have spoken to BBC News about
their concerns.
They are Robin Lovell-Badge, from the National Institute for Medical
Research (NIMR), and Austin Smith, from the University of Cambridge.
Professor Lovell-Badge said: "It's turning things into a clique where
only papers that satisfy this select group of a few reviewers who
think of themselves as very important people in the field is
published.
/end quote
Stem cell research is another politics+emotion driven "science." Stems
are treated as x-rays once were, a magical cure-all for everything.
Have any therapies actually worked yet?
Stem cell therapies, yes. Fetal stem cells, not so much.
Quote:
The stem cell thing is of course a surrogate for the abortion debate.
Which is a surrogate for the right to (one's) life itself.
Michael A. Terrell
Guest
Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:54 am
Uwe Hercksen wrote:
Quote:
John Larkin schrieb:
So why do the warmingists cite every warm spell, hurricane, and beach
erosion as proof of global warming?
Hello,
one very cold winter and a temperature record of 150 years in one place
does not proof that global warming does not exist. If the next decades
are getting colder and the ice around the north pole is growing instead
of shrinking, then we can talk of a probable end of global warming.
Just wait and see, but do wait long enough. One cold winter is nothing.
Neither are small, closed minds like yours.
--
Greed is the root of all eBay.
Jim Yanik
Guest
Wed Feb 03, 2010 5:10 am
krw <krw_at_att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in
news:tedhm51q487h5hv2s9k5j5s1pceibdnubt_at_4ax.com:
Quote:
On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 10:00:34 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin_at_highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 09:45:35 +0000, Raveninghorde
raveninghorde_at_invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:59:35 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin_at_highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 05:58:42 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net> wrote:
No damn way!
It's 21 degrees in Ocala right now and expected to get colder. They
are forecasting some snow, and this may become one of the longest
cold spells on record with another cold front headed this way.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/7111525/UN
-climate-change-panel-based-claims-on-student-dissertation-and-magazi
ne-article.html
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/01/28/save-rainforest-climate-cha
nge-scandal-chopped-facts/
John
Peer review appears corrupt across other sciences as well as climate.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8490291.stm
/quote
It has also emerged that 14 leading stem cell researchers have
written an open letter to journal editors in order to highlight their
dissatisfaction.
Billions of pounds of public money is spent on funding stem cell
research.
The open letter to the major scientific journals claims that "papers
that are scientifically flawed or comprise only modest technical
increments often attract undue profile. At the same time publication
of truly original findings may be delayed or rejected".
Two internationally-renowned researchers have spoken to BBC News
about their concerns.
They are Robin Lovell-Badge, from the National Institute for Medical
Research (NIMR), and Austin Smith, from the University of Cambridge.
Professor Lovell-Badge said: "It's turning things into a clique where
only papers that satisfy this select group of a few reviewers who
think of themselves as very important people in the field is
published.
/end quote
Stem cell research is another politics+emotion driven "science." Stems
are treated as x-rays once were, a magical cure-all for everything.
Have any therapies actually worked yet?
Stem cell therapies, yes. Fetal stem cells, not so much.
The stem cell thing is of course a surrogate for the abortion debate.
Which is a surrogate for the right to (one's) life itself.
one doesn't HAVE a life until they are BORN.
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com
krw
Guest
Wed Feb 03, 2010 5:54 am
On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 22:10:37 -0600, Jim Yanik <jyanik_at_abuse.gov>
wrote:
Quote:
krw <krw_at_att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in
news:tedhm51q487h5hv2s9k5j5s1pceibdnubt_at_4ax.com:
On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 10:00:34 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin_at_highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 09:45:35 +0000, Raveninghorde
raveninghorde_at_invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:59:35 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin_at_highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 05:58:42 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net> wrote:
No damn way!
It's 21 degrees in Ocala right now and expected to get colder. They
are forecasting some snow, and this may become one of the longest
cold spells on record with another cold front headed this way.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/7111525/UN
-climate-change-panel-based-claims-on-student-dissertation-and-magazi
ne-article.html
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/01/28/save-rainforest-climate-cha
nge-scandal-chopped-facts/
John
Peer review appears corrupt across other sciences as well as climate.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8490291.stm
/quote
It has also emerged that 14 leading stem cell researchers have
written an open letter to journal editors in order to highlight their
dissatisfaction.
Billions of pounds of public money is spent on funding stem cell
research.
The open letter to the major scientific journals claims that "papers
that are scientifically flawed or comprise only modest technical
increments often attract undue profile. At the same time publication
of truly original findings may be delayed or rejected".
Two internationally-renowned researchers have spoken to BBC News
about their concerns.
They are Robin Lovell-Badge, from the National Institute for Medical
Research (NIMR), and Austin Smith, from the University of Cambridge.
Professor Lovell-Badge said: "It's turning things into a clique where
only papers that satisfy this select group of a few reviewers who
think of themselves as very important people in the field is
published.
/end quote
Stem cell research is another politics+emotion driven "science." Stems
are treated as x-rays once were, a magical cure-all for everything.
Have any therapies actually worked yet?
Stem cell therapies, yes. Fetal stem cells, not so much.
The stem cell thing is of course a surrogate for the abortion debate.
Which is a surrogate for the right to (one's) life itself.
one doesn't HAVE a life until they are BORN.
Birth is only half the issue, but there are many who would disagree
with you.
John Larkin
Guest
Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:41 pm
On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 05:58:42 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net> wrote:
Quote:
No damn way!
It's 21 degrees in Ocala right now and expected to get colder. They are
forecasting some snow, and this may become one of the longest cold
spells on record with another cold front headed this way.
It's all about money:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/7176262/Climate-makes-money-move-in-mysterious-ways.html
John
Michael A. Terrell
Guest
Sun Feb 07, 2010 12:08 am
John Larkin wrote:
Quote:
There's one born every minute: A gullible fool who believes whatever
the media tells them. They never catch on to a scam, till it's way too
late. Then they scream about being hoodwinked. What really gets me are
the supposedly intelligent people on the science newsgroups, who fell
for AGW. :(
One of the local 'TV meteorologists' keeps harping about AGW every
time we have a cooler than normal day, in a very lame attempt to claim
they prove AGW.
--
Greed is the root of all eBay.
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