Generator Hassles

The electrical service goes to the house.  There are 3 underground 000
cables that go to the barn from the house.  The barn has a 60 amp breaker in
the breaker box at the house.  The 12,000 watt generator is in the barn..  It
has a 50 amp 240vac outlet, a 30 amp 240vac outlet and several others.  I am
hooking the 50 amp outlet to the house.  I am using the same 3 underground
000 cables to send generator power to the house during a power outage.

A 90 amp contactor in the barn won't connect the generator to the house
unless:
1. The electrical service to the house is off, and
2. The service disconnect switch at the house is off.

When the generator is turned on, it tests the service disconnect at the
house to assure the above two conditions are met.  This is done by sending a
1 second electrical pulse to the house to see if it will actuate a coil.  If
the coil actuates, the 90 amp contactor latches open and prevents backfeed
into the grid.  If the service power turns on during that 1 second, the
generator power and service power will clash and throw a 50 amp breaker to
the generator.

http://jons-math.bravehost.com/transfer.html

On Aug 8, 9:50 am, "Jon" <jon8...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
The electrical service goes to the house. There are 3 underground
000
cables that go to the barn from the house. The barn has a 60 amp
breaker in
the breaker box at the house. The 12,000 watt generator is in the
barn. It
has a 50 amp 240vac outlet, a 30 amp 240vac outlet and several
others. I am
hooking the 50 amp outlet to the house. I am using the same 3
underground
000 cables to send generator power to the house during a power
outage.

A 90 amp contactor in the barn won't connect the generator to the
house
unless:
1. The electrical service to the house is off, and
2. The service disconnect switch at the house is off.

When the generator is turned on, it tests the service disconnect at
the
house to assure the above two conditions are met. This is done by
sending a
1 second electrical pulse to the house to see if it will actuate a
coil. If
the coil actuates, the 90 amp contactor latches open and prevents
backfeed
into the grid. If the service power turns on during that 1 second,
the
generator power and service power will clash and throw a 50 amp
breaker to
the generator.

http://jons-math.bravehost.com/transfer.html

Don't forget to add an alarm clock with a "95 decimal" fire alarm
bell.

The electrical service goes to the house. There are 3 underground 000
cables that go to the barn from the house. The barn has a 60 amp breaker in
the breaker box at the house. The 12,000 watt generator is in the barn. It
has a 50 amp 240vac outlet, a 30 amp 240vac outlet and several others. I am
hooking the 50 amp outlet to the house. I am using the same 3 underground
000 cables to send generator power to the house during a power outage.

A 90 amp contactor in the barn won't connect the generator to the house
unless:
1. The electrical service to the house is off, and
2. The service disconnect switch at the house is off.

When the generator is turned on, it tests the service disconnect at the
house to assure the above two conditions are met. This is done by sending a
1 second electrical pulse to the house to see if it will actuate a coil. If
the coil actuates, the 90 amp contactor latches open and prevents backfeed
into the grid.

If the service power turns on during that 1 second, the
generator power and service power will clash and throw a 50 amp breaker to
the generator.

a7yvm109gf5d1_at_netzero.com> wrote in message
news:5469413c-d7e8-487c-843d-55cb7fa633f8_at_d17g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 8, 9:50 am, "Jon" <jon8...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
The electrical service goes to the house. There are 3 underground


Don't forget to add an alarm clock with a "95 decimal" fire alarm
bell.

Jon's place,

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4249107557479989822#docid=8919546410668248657

Cheers

On 2010-08-08, Jon <jon8338_at_peoplepc.com> wrote:

If the service power turns on during that 1 second, the
generator power and service power will clash and throw a 50 amp breaker to
the generator.

if you're lucky.

On 9 Aug 2010 11:02:02 GMT, Jasen Betts <ja...@xnet.co.nz> wrote:

On 2010-08-08, Jon <jon8...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
If the service power turns on during that 1 second, the
generator power and service power will clash and throw a 50 amp breaker to
the generator.

if you're lucky.

Actually it'll probably blow his generator, and resolve the problem
almost immediately... With luck, Jon will be fondleing it at the time.

a7yvm109gf5d1_at_netzero.com> wrote in message
news:5469413c-d7e8-487c-843d-55cb7fa633f8_at_d17g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 8, 9:50 am, "Jon" <jon8...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
The electrical service goes to the house. There are 3 underground
000
cables that go to the barn from the house. The barn has a 60 amp
breaker in
the breaker box at the house. The 12,000 watt generator is in the
barn. It
has a 50 amp 240vac outlet, a 30 amp 240vac outlet and several
others. I am
hooking the 50 amp outlet to the house. I am using the same 3
underground
000 cables to send generator power to the house during a power
outage.

A 90 amp contactor in the barn won't connect the generator to the
house
unless:
1. The electrical service to the house is off, and
2. The service disconnect switch at the house is off.

When the generator is turned on, it tests the service disconnect at
the
house to assure the above two conditions are met. This is done by
sending a
1 second electrical pulse to the house to see if it will actuate a
coil. If
the coil actuates, the 90 amp contactor latches open and prevents
backfeed
into the grid. If the service power turns on during that 1 second,
the
generator power and service power will clash and throw a 50 amp
breaker to
the generator.

http://jons-math.bravehost.com/transfer.html

Don't forget to add an alarm clock with a "95 decimal" fire alarm
bell.

Jon's place,

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4249107557479989822#docid=8919546410668248657

Cheers

Martin Riddle <martin_...@verizon.net> wrote:

a7yvm109gf...@netzero.com> wrote in message
news:5469413c-d7e8-487c-843d-55cb7fa633f8_at_d17g2000yqb.googlegroups.com....
On Aug 8, 9:50 am, "Jon" <jon8...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
The electrical service goes to the house.  There are 3 underground
000
cables that go to the barn from the house.  The barn has a 60 amp
breaker in
the breaker box at the house.  The 12,000 watt generator is in the
barn.  It
has a 50 amp 240vac outlet, a 30 amp 240vac outlet and several
others.  I am
hooking the 50 amp outlet to the house.  I am using the same 3
underground
000 cables to send generator power to the house during a power
outage.

A 90 amp contactor in the barn won't connect the generator to the
house
unless:
1. The electrical service to the house is off, and
2. The service disconnect switch at the house is off.

When the generator is turned on, it tests the service disconnect at
the
house to assure the above two conditions are met.  This is done by
sending a
1 second electrical pulse to the house to see if it will actuate a
coil.  If
the coil actuates, the 90 amp contactor latches open and prevents
backfeed
into the grid.  If the service power turns on during that 1 second,
the
generator power and service power will clash and throw a 50 amp
breaker to
the generator.

http://jons-math.bravehost.com/transfer.html

Don't forget to add an alarm clock with a "95 decimal" fire alarm
bell.

Jon's place,

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4249107557479989822#docid=891...

Cheers

ha!
WHAT !

On Aug 9, 11:38 am, Cydrome Leader <prese...@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:



Martin Riddle <martin_...@verizon.net> wrote:

a7yvm109gf...@netzero.com> wrote in message
news:5469413c-d7e8-487c-843d-55cb7fa633f8_at_d17g2000yqb.googlegroups.com....
On Aug 8, 9:50 am, "Jon" <jon8...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
The electrical service goes to the house.  There are 3 underground
000
cables that go to the barn from the house.  The barn has a 60 amp
breaker in
the breaker box at the house.  The 12,000 watt generator is in the
barn.  It
has a 50 amp 240vac outlet, a 30 amp 240vac outlet and several
others.  I am
hooking the 50 amp outlet to the house.  I am using the same 3
underground
000 cables to send generator power to the house during a power
outage.

A 90 amp contactor in the barn won't connect the generator to the
house
unless:
1. The electrical service to the house is off, and
2. The service disconnect switch at the house is off.

When the generator is turned on, it tests the service disconnect at
the
house to assure the above two conditions are met.  This is done by
sending a
1 second electrical pulse to the house to see if it will actuate a
coil.  If
the coil actuates, the 90 amp contactor latches open and prevents
backfeed
into the grid.  If the service power turns on during that 1 second,
the
generator power and service power will clash and throw a 50 amp
breaker to
the generator.

http://jons-math.bravehost.com/transfer.html

Don't forget to add an alarm clock with a "95 decimal" fire alarm
bell.

Jon's place,

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4249107557479989822#docid=891...

Cheers

ha!

WHAT !
LITTLE EARLY BIRDY GAVE YOUR ANUS CURLY WHURLY ?

The electrical service goes to the house.  There are 3 underground 000
cables that go to the barn from the house.  The barn has a 60 amp breaker in
the breaker box at the house.  The 12,000 watt generator is in the barn..  It
has a 50 amp 240vac outlet, a 30 amp 240vac outlet and several others.  I am
hooking the 50 amp outlet to the house.  I am using the same 3 underground
000 cables to send generator power to the house during a power outage.

A 90 amp contactor in the barn won't connect the generator to the house
unless:
1. The electrical service to the house is off, and
2. The service disconnect switch at the house is off.

When the generator is turned on, it tests the service disconnect at the
house to assure the above two conditions are met.  This is done by sending a
1 second electrical pulse to the house to see if it will actuate a coil.  If
the coil actuates, the 90 amp contactor latches open and prevents backfeed
into the grid.  If the service power turns on during that 1 second, the
generator power and service power will clash and throw a 50 amp breaker to
the generator.

http://jons-math.bravehost.com/transfer.html

The electrical service goes to the house.  There are 3 underground 000
cables that go to the barn from the house.  The barn has a 60 amp breaker in
the breaker box at the house.  The 12,000 watt generator is in the barn..  It
has a 50 amp 240vac outlet, a 30 amp 240vac outlet and several others.  I am
hooking the 50 amp outlet to the house.  I am using the same 3 underground
000 cables to send generator power to the house during a power outage.

A 90 amp contactor in the barn won't connect the generator to the house
unless:
1. The electrical service to the house is off, and
2. The service disconnect switch at the house is off.

When the generator is turned on, it tests the service disconnect at the
house to assure the above two conditions are met.  This is done by sending a
1 second electrical pulse to the house to see if it will actuate a coil.  If
the coil actuates, the 90 amp contactor latches open and prevents backfeed
into the grid.  If the service power turns on during that 1 second, the
generator power and service power will clash and throw a 50 amp breaker to
the generator.

http://jons-math.bravehost.com/transfer.html

On Aug 8, 10:50 am, "Jon" <jon8...@peoplepc.com> wrote:



The electrical service goes to the house.  There are 3 underground 000
cables that go to the barn from the house.  The barn has a 60 amp breaker in
the breaker box at the house.  The 12,000 watt generator is in the barn.  It
has a 50 amp 240vac outlet, a 30 amp 240vac outlet and several others.  I am
hooking the 50 amp outlet to the house.  I am using the same 3 underground
000 cables to send generator power to the house during a power outage.

A 90 amp contactor in the barn won't connect the generator to the house
unless:
1. The electrical service to the house is off, and
2. The service disconnect switch at the house is off.

When the generator is turned on, it tests the service disconnect at the
house to assure the above two conditions are met.  This is done by sending a
1 second electrical pulse to the house to see if it will actuate a coil..  If
the coil actuates, the 90 amp contactor latches open and prevents backfeed
into the grid.  If the service power turns on during that 1 second, the
generator power and service power will clash and throw a 50 amp breaker to
the generator.

http://jons-math.bravehost.com/transfer.html

Jon
You appear to have two control conductors going to the house panel
that are not the AWG 0 cables that you mentioned.  Is that correct?
If it is you can fix this setup  by using a shunt trip main breaker
with a pair of auxiliary contacts.  If you actually interested in
anything other than trying to validate your existing setup let me
know.
--
Tom Horne

On Aug 9, 7:02 pm, a7yvm109gf...@netzero.com wrote:





On Aug 9, 5:23 pm, Tom Horne <horn...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Aug 8, 10:50 am, "Jon" <jon8...@peoplepc.com> wrote:

The electrical service goes to the house.  There are 3 underground 000
cables that go to the barn from the house.  The barn has a 60 amp breaker in
the breaker box at the house.  The 12,000 watt generator is in the barn.  It
has a 50 amp 240vac outlet, a 30 amp 240vac outlet and several others.  I am
hooking the 50 amp outlet to the house.  I am using the same 3 underground
000 cables to send generator power to the house during a power outage.

A 90 amp contactor in the barn won't connect the generator to the house
unless:
1. The electrical service to the house is off, and
2. The service disconnect switch at the house is off.

When the generator is turned on, it tests the service disconnect at the
house to assure the above two conditions are met.  This is done by sending a
1 second electrical pulse to the house to see if it will actuate a coil.  If
the coil actuates, the 90 amp contactor latches open and prevents backfeed
into the grid.  If the service power turns on during that 1 second, the
generator power and service power will clash and throw a 50 amp breaker to
the generator.

http://jons-math.bravehost.com/transfer.html

Jon
You appear to have two control conductors going to the house panel
that are not the AWG 0 cables that you mentioned.  Is that correct?
If it is you can fix this setup  by using a shunt trip main breaker
with a pair of auxiliary contacts.  If you actually interested in
anything other than trying to validate your existing setup let me
know.
--
Tom Horne

Unfortunately, Jonathan L Giffen suffers from mental illness.
He is heavily medicated and probably not receptive to logic or what
you would consider common sense.
Psychosis is a break from reality, like a waking dream state, with its
own logic and rules. While Jon is intelligent, he works by different
perceptions than you or me.

I would not encourage his experiments with mains power. He's dangerous
enough with alarm clocks.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/A1885J18PY8I7S

http://www.amazon.com/Electric-Alarm-Clock-Selectable-Display/product...

"I took this clock apart and wired it to ring a 95 decimal fire bell
when the alarm goes off. I have to admit I am impressed that the clock
still works even after all my wiring mistakes. Now I have myself a
good clock with a lowd alarm to wake me up."

Would you want someone taking this amount of psychoactive substances
near electricity?

http://mypeoplepc.com/members/jon8338/mypersonalsite/id5.html

Or someone that needs a "95 decimal fire bell" to wake up even with 30
cups of coffee a day?

I AM NO PHYSICIAN BUT
HE SOUNDS LIKE THE TYPE OF PERSON THAT A DOSE OR TWO OF LISERGIC ACID
WOULD SET HIS MENTAL STATE RIGHT
JUST LEAVE HIM ALONE ON HIS LITTLE PRIVATE TRIP THROUGH LA LA LAND IN
A ROOM FULL OF ART AND UPDATED ELECTRONIC GADGETRY []

IF HE HITS THE RIGHT TONES ON HIS AUDIO SYSTEM HE MAY LEARN THE
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DECIMALS AND DECIBALS
TWAHAHAHA
TWEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE

IAP
OH OH

I AM NO PHYSICIAN BUT
HE SOUNDS LIKE THE TYPE OF PERSON THAT A DOSE OR TWO OF LISERGIC ACID
WOULD SET HIS MENTAL STATE RIGHT
JUST LEAVE HIM ALONE ON HIS LITTLE PRIVATE TRIP THROUGH LA LA LAND IN
A ROOM FULL OF ART AND UPDATED ELECTRONIC GADGETRY []