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Jasen Betts
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Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:28 am
On 2010-08-09, PeterD <peter2_at_hipson.net> wrote:
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On 9 Aug 2010 11:02:02 GMT, Jasen Betts <jasen_at_xnet.co.nz> wrote:
On 2010-08-08, Jon <jon8338_at_peoplepc.com> wrote:
If the service power turns on during that 1 second, the
generator power and service power will clash and throw a 50 amp breaker to
the generator.
if you're lucky.
Actually it'll probably blow his generator, and resolve the problem
almost immediately... With luck, Jon will be fondleing it at the time.
that's now way it could go, another is the gernerator could phase-lock
with the mains. and continue to run.
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PeterD
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Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:38 pm
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 02:45:52 -0700, "Very Sick Edmond Wollmann"
<arcturianone_at_earthlink.net> wrote:
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He can't back-feed to the grid any way pussy, The grid power is so much
powerful than his funky generator, it will smoke first or nothing will
happen depending on the polarity of the flow.
Yes, he can. If the grid is open, and the lineman is trying to repair
that open, there is a (high) risk of voltage.
PeterD
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Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:40 pm
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 03:01:28 -0700, "Very Sick Edmond Wollmann"
<arcturianone_at_earthlink.net> wrote:
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True, but he tried not to do that, that's why he struggled with his transfer
circuit.
Again this makes too many hazardous assumptions about conditions and
Jon's ability to do things. Since he's proven he can not design a
simple transfer switch, there is little hope that he will have ideal
conditions for his system to work.
One problem is that Jon engineers for best/ideal conditions, and not
worst case conditions. That is what seperates a real engineer from a
wanna-be like Jon.
Michael A. Terrell
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Thu Aug 12, 2010 5:36 pm
Sylvia Else wrote:
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On 9/08/2010 12:50 AM, Jon wrote:
The electrical service goes to the house. There are 3 underground 000
cables that go to the barn from the house. The barn has a 60 amp breaker
in the breaker box at the house. The 12,000 watt generator is in the
barn. It has a 50 amp 240vac outlet, a 30 amp 240vac outlet and several
others. I am hooking the 50 amp outlet to the house. I am using the same
3 underground 000 cables to send generator power to the house during a
power outage.
A 90 amp contactor in the barn won't connect the generator to the house
unless:
1. The electrical service to the house is off, and
2. The service disconnect switch at the house is off.
When the generator is turned on, it tests the service disconnect at the
house to assure the above two conditions are met. This is done by
sending a 1 second electrical pulse to the house to see if it will
actuate a coil. If the coil actuates, the 90 amp contactor latches open
and prevents backfeed into the grid. If the service power turns on
during that 1 second, the generator power and service power will clash
and throw a 50 amp breaker to the generator.
http://jons-math.bravehost.com/transfer.html
I'd have thought the grid operator would want a cast-iron guarantee that
you won't backfeed the grid, lest you enliven wires that linesmen think
are dead.
What's wrong with a DPDT relay?
Jon is a troll.
Bill
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Thu Aug 12, 2010 5:39 pm
Psychiatric medication...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychiatric_medication
Proteus IIV
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Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:49 am
On Aug 12, 12:39 pm, "Bill" <billnomailnosp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Psychiatric medication...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychiatric_medication
BILL
IF YOU ARE RESTLESS AND NEED TO BE DOING SOMETHING WITH YOUR HANDS
AS GOOD AS THOSE MEDICATIONNS MAY BE [I WOULD SUGGEST YOU TAKE THE
ANTI-ANXIETY PILLS]
INSTEAD GO BUY A "FUSHIGI" AS SEN ON TV
AND STAY OFF YOUR KEYBORAD
IAP
Josepi
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Fri Aug 13, 2010 4:09 am
We don't care about your communication failures.
"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Jon is a troll.
Michael A. Terrell
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Fri Aug 13, 2010 7:57 am
Josepi wrote:
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We don't care about your communication failures.
You seem to be the one who can't communicate, but I really don't
care.
Very Sick Edmond Wollmann
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Fri Aug 13, 2010 1:37 pm
"Bill" <billnomailnospamx_at_yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Psychiatric Rethinking needed for your Superpower Krooks.
After you failed to robbed IRAQ, now you robbed your own people, stealing
their houses on a GRAND THEFT scheme, banks changing the rule to rob,
bail-out money went to the wrong hands....
I call this a Karma of Ignorants.
Very Sick Edmond Wollmann
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Fri Aug 13, 2010 1:42 pm
"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
Josepi wrote:
We don't care about your communication failures.
You seem to be the one who can't communicate, but I really don't
care.
Actually you are the one Michael Asshole Terrell.
Jon tried his best, you don't have experience as much as he does in high
power, he did 95% right, so, you're a military Junk. If you think you're
smart, why didn't you help him?
Keith Thrasher
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Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:41 pm
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 05:37:44 -0700, Very Sick Edmond Wollmann wrote:
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After you failed to robbed IRAQ, now you robbed your own people, stealing
their houses on a GRAND THEFT scheme, banks changing the rule to rob,
bail-out money went to the wrong hands....
I call this a Karma of Ignorants.
*LIOSTEN TO ME YOU MOTHERFUKKER LOVING MOOSLIM SLIMEBUKKET OF SNOT*
*FUCK OFF*
--
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got handed a divorce and a Restaining Order to keep away from all of
them. I'm 36, got a beer belly that looks like I'm pregnant 9 months.
Gawd, isn't life good!
Proteus IIV
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Fri Aug 13, 2010 9:22 pm
YOU REALLY SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE THAT
IAP
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Sat Aug 14, 2010 5:02 am
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PeterD
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Sat Aug 14, 2010 10:27 pm
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 05:42:01 -0700, "Very Sick Edmond Wollmann"
<arcturianone_at_earthlink.net> wrote:
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"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Josepi wrote:
We don't care about your communication failures.
You seem to be the one who can't communicate, but I really don't
care.
Actually you are the one Michael Asshole Terrell.
Jon tried his best,
Which wasn't very good at all.
Quote:
you don't have experience as much as he does in high
power,
He (Jon) has no experience in this.
Quote:
he did 95% right,
Close only counts in horse shoes and hand gernades. 95% right is still
not good enough.
Quote:
so, you're a military Junk.
Makes no sense.
Quote:
If you think you're
smart, why didn't you help him?
We *all* tried to help him, but Jon is convinced that he knows more
than any of us. I've told him over and over what is required, but he
refuses to do it right.
So, Jon, quit nymshifting, and use your head.
JosephKK
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Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:32 pm
On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 17:59:21 -0700 (PDT), a7yvm109gf5d1_at_netzero.com
wrote:
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On Aug 9, 6:51 pm, Proteus IIV <proteus...@gmail.com> wrote:
I AM NO PHYSICIAN BUT
HE SOUNDS LIKE THE TYPE OF PERSON THAT A DOSE OR TWO OF LISERGIC ACID
WOULD SET HIS MENTAL STATE RIGHT
JUST LEAVE HIM ALONE ON HIS LITTLE PRIVATE TRIP THROUGH LA LA LAND IN
A ROOM FULL OF ART AND UPDATED ELECTRONIC GADGETRY [

]
That's not the point, he might hurt himself, set fire to his barn or
kill himself.
Jon hurting or killing himself is not what bothers me, the bother is
hurting or killing unsuspecting others who may be there to try to help
him.
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