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Dave Goldfinch
Guest

Sun Sep 14, 2008 6:46 am   



In our bedroom we have a split system Daiken inverter type air
conditioner.

On two occaisions now, we have had geckos get into the outside unit
and land up in the electronics, causing rhe controller board to fail.
These boards are complex and far beyond my ability to repair, so
replacement by Diaken is the only option - needless to say a very
expensive one !

Does anyone have any ideas how to keep the little buggers out ?
Physically barring them is difficult, as you can't restrict the air
circulation around and through the unit and they are able to get
through a very small gap. I would like to know if it would be possible
to put a chemical barrier around the unit- like a surface spray
insecticide. The guy who installed the unit suggested that moth-balls
might work but I have the feeling that their efffect might be very
short lived.

Any suggestions ?

Dave G

atec77
Guest

Sun Sep 14, 2008 7:00 am   



Dave Goldfinch wrote:
Quote:
In our bedroom we have a split system Daiken inverter type air
conditioner.

On two occaisions now, we have had geckos get into the outside unit
and land up in the electronics, causing rhe controller board to fail.
These boards are complex and far beyond my ability to repair, so
replacement by Diaken is the only option - needless to say a very
expensive one !

Does anyone have any ideas how to keep the little buggers out ?
Physically barring them is difficult, as you can't restrict the air
circulation around and through the unit and they are able to get
through a very small gap. I would like to know if it would be possible
to put a chemical barrier around the unit- like a surface spray
insecticide. The guy who installed the unit suggested that moth-balls
might work but I have the feeling that their efffect might be very
short lived.

Any suggestions ?

Dave G


Investigate one of the critter buzzer things , they plug in and drive

the little stuff away.. might work on them , or a simple bait would stop
em .

Mr.T
Guest

Sun Sep 14, 2008 7:18 am   



"atec77" <atec77REMOVE_at_hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Dave Goldfinch wrote:
In our bedroom we have a split system Daiken inverter type air
conditioner.

On two occaisions now, we have had geckos get into the outside unit
and land up in the electronics, causing rhe controller board to fail.
These boards are complex and far beyond my ability to repair, so
replacement by Diaken is the only option - needless to say a very
expensive one !

Does anyone have any ideas how to keep the little buggers out ?

Chicken wire should do the trick I would think.

Quote:
Physically barring them is difficult, as you can't restrict the air
circulation around and through the unit and they are able to get
through a very small gap. I would like to know if it would be possible
to put a chemical barrier around the unit- like a surface spray
insecticide. The guy who installed the unit suggested that moth-balls
might work but I have the feeling that their efffect might be very
short lived.

Investigate one of the critter buzzer things , they plug in and drive
the little stuff away.. might work on them ,

I doubt they work on anything other than your wallet.
I have seen wonderful footage of cockroaches actually swarming around those
ultrasonic insect repellers though :-)

MrT.

atec77
Guest

Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:15 am   



Mr.T wrote:
Quote:
"atec77" <atec77REMOVE_at_hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:gaicps$hf7$1_at_aioe.org...
Dave Goldfinch wrote:
In our bedroom we have a split system Daiken inverter type air
conditioner.

On two occaisions now, we have had geckos get into the outside unit
and land up in the electronics, causing rhe controller board to fail.
These boards are complex and far beyond my ability to repair, so
replacement by Diaken is the only option - needless to say a very
expensive one !

Does anyone have any ideas how to keep the little buggers out ?

Chicken wire should do the trick I would think.

Physically barring them is difficult, as you can't restrict the air
circulation around and through the unit and they are able to get
through a very small gap. I would like to know if it would be possible
to put a chemical barrier around the unit- like a surface spray
insecticide. The guy who installed the unit suggested that moth-balls
might work but I have the feeling that their efffect might be very
short lived.

Investigate one of the critter buzzer things , they plug in and drive
the little stuff away.. might work on them ,

I doubt they work on anything other than your wallet.
cite ?
I have seen wonderful footage of cockroaches actually swarming around those
ultrasonic insect repellers though Smile
I have not

I built my own with good success , many however don't have the skills .

Quote:

MrT.



Andy
Guest

Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:09 am   



Dave Goldfinch wrote:
Quote:
In our bedroom we have a split system Daiken inverter type air
conditioner.

On two occaisions now, we have had geckos get into the outside unit
and land up in the electronics, causing rhe controller board to fail.
These boards are complex and far beyond my ability to repair, so
replacement by Diaken is the only option - needless to say a very
expensive one !

Does anyone have any ideas how to keep the little buggers out ?
Physically barring them is difficult, as you can't restrict the air
circulation around and through the unit and they are able to get
through a very small gap. I would like to know if it would be possible
to put a chemical barrier around the unit- like a surface spray
insecticide. The guy who installed the unit suggested that moth-balls
might work but I have the feeling that their efffect might be very
short lived.

Any suggestions ?

Dave G

How about applying some sort of conformal coating to the board to give
it some insulation and protection?

Andy

Mr.T
Guest

Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:11 am   



"atec77" <atec77REMOVE_at_hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:gaih6i$qe$1_at_aioe.org...
Quote:
I have seen wonderful footage of cockroaches actually swarming around
those
ultrasonic insect repellers though :-)

I have not
I built my own with good success , many however don't have the skills .

Doesn't take much skill at all! The concept is hardly rocket science!
(And none at all if you buy the commercial versions)
What it takes is proof that they actually work. Looking forward to seeing
yours.

MrT.

Dave Goldfinch
Guest

Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:18 am   



On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 06:46:07 GMT, Dave Goldfinch
<daveg50_8_at_NotCoolMail.invalid> wrote:

Quote:

In our bedroom we have a split system Daiken inverter type air
conditioner.

On two occaisions now, we have had geckos get into the outside unit
and land up in the electronics, causing rhe controller board to fail.
These boards are complex and far beyond my ability to repair, so
replacement by Diaken is the only option - needless to say a very
expensive one !

Does anyone have any ideas how to keep the little buggers out ?
Physically barring them is difficult, as you can't restrict the air
circulation around and through the unit and they are able to get
through a very small gap. I would like to know if it would be possible
to put a chemical barrier around the unit- like a surface spray
insecticide. The guy who installed the unit suggested that moth-balls
might work but I have the feeling that their efffect might be very
short lived.

Any suggestions ?

Dave G



Thanks for the suggestions guys.

I agree that physically barring the beasts would be best but it would
also be quite difficult - I am talking about very small geckos here -
chicken wire would be useless, it would have to be something
approaching fly-wire. I am worried about the effect this would have on
air-flow. As it is, I am amazed that the electronics survive out in
the blazing sun on a 40C day - I am in Perth, so we get quite extreme
heat.

I hadn't thought of moving the the controller into an isolated box, it
sounds like a good plan - the only problem I can see would be whether
Daikin would still service it, if required, and honour the warranty -
I still have 3 years left if something does fail naturally ie without
wildlife intervention !!.

Dave G

Jasen Betts
Guest

Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:56 am   



On 2008-09-14, Dave Goldfinch <daveg50_8_at_NotCoolMail.invalid> wrote:
Quote:

In our bedroom we have a split system Daiken inverter type air
conditioner.

On two occaisions now, we have had geckos get into the outside unit
and land up in the electronics, causing rhe controller board to fail.
These boards are complex and far beyond my ability to repair, so
replacement by Diaken is the only option - needless to say a very
expensive one !

Does anyone have any ideas how to keep the little buggers out ?

Tell daiken they have to pay for the repair.

It sounds to me like ther unit is either faulty or has been installed
wrong.

Bye.
Jasen

kreed
Guest

Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:59 am   



On Sep 14, 4:46 pm, Dave Goldfinch <daveg5...@NotCoolMail.invalid>
wrote:
Quote:
In our bedroom we have a split system Daiken inverter type air
conditioner.

On two occaisions now, we have had geckos get into the outside unit
and land up in the electronics, causing rhe controller board to fail.
These boards are complex and far beyond my ability to repair, so
replacement by Diaken is the only option - needless to say a very
expensive one !

Does anyone have any ideas how to keep the little buggers out ?
Physically barring them is difficult, as you can't restrict the air
circulation around and through the unit and they are able to get
through a very small gap. I would like to know if it would be possible
to put a chemical barrier around the unit- like a surface spray
insecticide. The guy who installed the unit suggested that moth-balls
might work but I have the feeling that their efffect might be very
short lived.

Any suggestions ?

Dave G

I don't think any insecticides will help, even if they did work, they
have to be renewed regularly, you only have
to forget once, and the geckos go back in.

Physically baring it is the best way, or else move the PCB to a
sealed external enclosure,
extending the connections to it if needed

You can buy sealed junction boxes/enclosures in quite large sizes (to
fit the PCB) if needed at Haymans, as well as
plenty of suitable sizes of waterproof glands / conduit to protect the
external wiring to it if needed.

atec77
Guest

Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:30 am   



kreed wrote:
Quote:
On Sep 14, 4:46 pm, Dave Goldfinch <daveg5...@NotCoolMail.invalid
wrote:
In our bedroom we have a split system Daiken inverter type air
conditioner.

On two occaisions now, we have had geckos get into the outside unit
and land up in the electronics, causing rhe controller board to fail.
These boards are complex and far beyond my ability to repair, so
replacement by Diaken is the only option - needless to say a very
expensive one !

Does anyone have any ideas how to keep the little buggers out ?
Physically barring them is difficult, as you can't restrict the air
circulation around and through the unit and they are able to get
through a very small gap. I would like to know if it would be possible
to put a chemical barrier around the unit- like a surface spray
insecticide. The guy who installed the unit suggested that moth-balls
might work but I have the feeling that their efffect might be very
short lived.

Any suggestions ?

Dave G

I don't think any insecticides will help, even if they did work, they
have to be renewed regularly, you only have
to forget once, and the geckos go back in.

Physically baring it is the best way, or else move the PCB to a
sealed external enclosure,
extending the connections to it if needed

You can buy sealed junction boxes/enclosures in quite large sizes (to
fit the PCB) if needed at Haymans, as well as
plenty of suitable sizes of waterproof glands / conduit to protect the
external wiring to it if needed.


The isolation of the board is quite problematic in those units I have

examined , apart from the cable cap there are numerous internal areas to
be sealed so apart from spraying the board and other parts with a
sealer and maybe using silastic to close up holes I cant see a
mechanical solution being particularly easy

atec77
Guest

Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:31 am   



Dave Goldfinch wrote:
Quote:
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 06:46:07 GMT, Dave Goldfinch
daveg50_8_at_NotCoolMail.invalid> wrote:

In our bedroom we have a split system Daiken inverter type air
conditioner.

On two occaisions now, we have had geckos get into the outside unit
and land up in the electronics, causing rhe controller board to fail.
These boards are complex and far beyond my ability to repair, so
replacement by Diaken is the only option - needless to say a very
expensive one !

Does anyone have any ideas how to keep the little buggers out ?
Physically barring them is difficult, as you can't restrict the air
circulation around and through the unit and they are able to get
through a very small gap. I would like to know if it would be possible
to put a chemical barrier around the unit- like a surface spray
insecticide. The guy who installed the unit suggested that moth-balls
might work but I have the feeling that their efffect might be very
short lived.

Any suggestions ?

Dave G



Thanks for the suggestions guys.

I agree that physically barring the beasts would be best but it would
also be quite difficult - I am talking about very small geckos here -
chicken wire would be useless, it would have to be something
approaching fly-wire. I am worried about the effect this would have on
air-flow. As it is, I am amazed that the electronics survive out in
the blazing sun on a 40C day - I am in Perth, so we get quite extreme
heat.

I hadn't thought of moving the the controller into an isolated box, it
sounds like a good plan - the only problem I can see would be whether
Daikin would still service it, if required, and honour the warranty -
I still have 3 years left if something does fail naturally ie without
wildlife intervention !!.

Dave G
If you alter it in anyway I doubt there will be any more warranty.


David Segall
Guest

Sun Sep 14, 2008 2:14 pm   



Dave Goldfinch <daveg50_8_at_NotCoolMail.invalid> wrote:

Quote:

In our bedroom we have a split system Daiken inverter type air
conditioner.

On two occaisions now, we have had geckos get into the outside unit
and land up in the electronics, causing rhe controller board to fail.
These boards are complex and far beyond my ability to repair, so
replacement by Diaken is the only option - needless to say a very
expensive one !

Does anyone have any ideas how to keep the little buggers out ?
Physically barring them is difficult, as you can't restrict the air
circulation around and through the unit and they are able to get
through a very small gap. I would like to know if it would be possible
to put a chemical barrier around the unit- like a surface spray
insecticide. The guy who installed the unit suggested that moth-balls
might work but I have the feeling that their efffect might be very
short lived.

Any suggestions ?
Wrap the board in Glad Wrap?


Bob Parker
Guest

Sun Sep 14, 2008 2:57 pm   



On 15/09/2008 00:14 David Segall wrote:
Quote:
Dave Goldfinch <daveg50_8_at_NotCoolMail.invalid> wrote:

In our bedroom we have a split system Daiken inverter type air
conditioner.

On two occaisions now, we have had geckos get into the outside unit
and land up in the electronics, causing rhe controller board to fail.
These boards are complex and far beyond my ability to repair, so
replacement by Diaken is the only option - needless to say a very
expensive one !

Does anyone have any ideas how to keep the little buggers out ?
Physically barring them is difficult, as you can't restrict the air
circulation around and through the unit and they are able to get
through a very small gap. I would like to know if it would be possible
to put a chemical barrier around the unit- like a surface spray
insecticide. The guy who installed the unit suggested that moth-balls
might work but I have the feeling that their efffect might be very
short lived.

Any suggestions ?
Wrap the board in Glad Wrap?


Put some kind of gecko-proof barriers across their pathways to your
A/C unit?

Mr.T
Guest

Mon Sep 15, 2008 8:18 am   



"Dave Goldfinch" <daveg50_8_at_NotCoolMail.invalid> wrote in message
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Quote:
I agree that physically barring the beasts would be best but it would
also be quite difficult - I am talking about very small geckos here -
chicken wire would be useless, it would have to be something
approaching fly-wire.

Wow, *very* tiny Gecko's.

Quote:
I am worried about the effect this would have on
air-flow. As it is, I am amazed that the electronics survive out in
the blazing sun on a 40C day - I am in Perth, so we get quite extreme
heat.

Fly wire should still allow sufficient air flow, unless it's already
insufficient. If so you may need to redirect some of the cold air flow, or
simply add a small fan.

MrT.

swanny
Guest

Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:25 am   



Dave Goldfinch wrote:
Quote:
In our bedroom we have a split system Daiken inverter type air
conditioner.

On two occaisions now, we have had geckos get into the outside unit
and land up in the electronics, causing rhe controller board to fail.
These boards are complex and far beyond my ability to repair, so
replacement by Diaken is the only option - needless to say a very
expensive one !

Does anyone have any ideas how to keep the little buggers out ?
Physically barring them is difficult, as you can't restrict the air
circulation around and through the unit and they are able to get
through a very small gap. I would like to know if it would be possible
to put a chemical barrier around the unit- like a surface spray
insecticide. The guy who installed the unit suggested that moth-balls
might work but I have the feeling that their efffect might be very
short lived.

Any suggestions ?

Dave G



An Eastern Brown snake should do the trick.

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