Guest
Wed May 11, 2005 4:02 pm
I've seen the designs for low-cost home-built nitrogen lasers. But
these were for unfocused beams.
Is there a low-cost method to focus the beam to a spot in the range of
say a few hundred microns wide?
Bob Clark
Raymond Yohros
Guest
Wed May 11, 2005 11:40 pm
rgregorycl...@yahoo.com wrote:
Quote:
I've seen the designs for low-cost home-built nitrogen lasers. But
these were for unfocused beams.
Is there a low-cost method to focus the beam to a spot in the range
of
say a few hundred microns wide?
Bob Clark
Everithing you ever want to know about lasers:
http://repairfaq.ece.drexel.edu/sam/lasertoc.htm
Everything about nitrogen lasers:
http://repairfaq.ece.drexel.edu/sam/lasercn2.htm#cn2toc
regards
Raymond
Guest
Fri May 13, 2005 9:16 am
Bret Cannon wrote:
Quote:
The divergence of a nitrogen laser can be as low as 1 mrad if I
recall
correctly. LSI used to sell a "near diffraction limited" version of
their
sealed tube nitrogen laser (they may still). It use an unstable
resonator
with the output mirror covering only 1/4 of the output aperture and a
I'm
not sure if the rear mirror was flat or curved. I did some work
using such
a laser focused to about a 50 micron diameter for laser ablation.
Bret Cannon
The application I had in mind is indeed for micromachining.
This page discusses laser micromaching using UV lasers:
Small Excimers Opening Up New Industrial Applications.
http://www.resonetics.com/SMexcimer_default.htm
And here's a report discussing micromachining with femtosecond laser
pulses; but it gives examples showing that nanosecond pulses, the
length of the pulses for the home-made nitrogen laser, can also be
using for micromachinging:
Femtosecond Laser Micromachining: Current Status and Applications.
http://www.exitech.co.uk/pdffiles/Femtosecond%20Laser%20Micromachining%20Current%20Status%20and%20Applicat.pdf
Bob Clark
Guest
Fri May 13, 2005 10:04 am
Harveyx wrote:
Quote:
...
Uncle Al overstates his case a bit.
Why dont we try numbers instead of words..............
Forget 'mode structure' for most N2 lasers, there is essentially
none, they
are single pass. But neither is it *quite* 'a flasbulb'.
To a pretty good approximation crude nitrogen lasers have a
divergence
which is about d/L where d is the 'tube' (discharge, often
transverse)
diameter & L the length.
If you focus it with focal length F your spot diameter is just F*d/L
So, if you want 0.1mm, d is maybe 5mm & L maybe 200mm you would need
a 4mm
focal length, which is operating at F~0,8
You might get a UV transparent microscope objective (at a price) that
gets
near that, but its pretty challenging to put it mildly.
With a longer, thinner laser, and relax it to 'a few' hundred um
spot, and
you would get into just about achievable regimes.
With longer focal lengths, the F number falls, & aberrations are
rapidly
less of an issue - its rather far from diffraction limited!
Lens UV transparency at 337nm is an issue, especially for a thick
short
focus lens.
Harvey
For these homemade nitrogen lasers the tube is just filled with air
and made of transparent plastic, so is quite cheap. Then you could have
a tube length say the full length of your basement, say 10 meters,
10,000mm.
Then for a diameter of 25mm, you would only need a focal length of
40mm to get a spot diameter of 0.1mm. How are 40mm focal length, 25mm
diameter UV lenses pricewise?
Bob Clark
Guest
Fri May 13, 2005 12:03 pm
Sam Goldwasser wrote:
Quote:
...
For these homemade nitrogen lasers the tube is just filled with
air
and made of transparent plastic, so is quite cheap. Then you could
have
a tube length say the full length of your basement, say 10 meters,
10,000mm.
And you're going to excite this laser how? :)
Then for a diameter of 25mm, you would only need a focal length of
40mm to get a spot diameter of 0.1mm. How are 40mm focal length,
25mm
diameter UV lenses pricewise?
4 mm f/l lenses are quite common. That's not the problem.a
...
How does input energy scale with the size of laser tube?
Bob Clark
Guest
Sat May 14, 2005 7:52 am
Sam Goldwasser wrote:
Quote:
rgregoryclark_at_yahoo.com writes:
Sam Goldwasser wrote:
...
For these homemade nitrogen lasers the tube is just filled
with
air
and made of transparent plastic, so is quite cheap. Then you
could
have
a tube length say the full length of your basement, say 10
meters,
10,000mm.
And you're going to excite this laser how? :)
Then for a diameter of 25mm, you would only need a focal
length of
40mm to get a spot diameter of 0.1mm. How are 40mm focal
length,
25mm
diameter UV lenses pricewise?
4 mm f/l lenses are quite common. That's not the problem.a
...
How does input energy scale with the size of laser tube?
I would expect it to be linear. However, it's not only the energy,
but
the timing - getting the excitation pulse to be in sync with the
light
pulse is not trivial over any distance.
...
OK, the problems with just using air at standard pressure may be
insurmountable for my application.
However, this page suggests homebuilt nitrogen lasers can be used for
micromachining with the lasing gas at low pressure:
The Nitrogen Gas Laser.
"This laser produces intense, short, pulses of UV radiation at 337.1nm
and is useful for applications ranging from microcutting to pumping dye
lasers. This is one of the easiest gas lasers to build 'from scratch'
although the electrical discharge circuitry must be carefully
designed."
http://www.technology.niagarac.on.ca/people/mcsele/lasers/LasersN2.htm
The page suggests a vacuum pump to get the nitrogen down to 25 torr,
about 3% of standard pressure, is simple and low cost.
This company has prices for low cost UV lenses:
UV Optics - PCX.
http://www.hiteckint.com/product/optics/leans-pcxuv.htm
They give a price for a 6mm diameter, 9 mm focal length UV lens as
about $5.00. This is a Hong Kong company however.
Bob Clark