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Tegger
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Sat Jan 07, 2012 4:39 am   



<This question also, previously, posted to alt.home.repair>

I have an older 18" fluorescent lamp that takes a 15WT8 bulb. As of this
morning, it no marcha. I suspect the starter switch, which is your
glass-tube type and is pretty black inside.

The problem is that I can't find any "15w" starter switches at any
location close to me. I can, however, cheaply and easily find a white,
cylindrical starter switch that says, "13w, 30w, 40w" on it.

Can I use this "13w, 30w, 40w" switch with my 15w lamp?


--
Tegger

Phil Allison
Guest

Sat Jan 07, 2012 4:39 am   



"Tegger"
Quote:

I have an older 18" fluorescent lamp that takes a 15WT8 bulb. As of this
morning, it no marcha. I suspect the starter switch, which is your
glass-tube type and is pretty black inside.

The problem is that I can't find any "15w" starter switches at any
location close to me. I can, however, cheaply and easily find a white,
cylindrical starter switch that says, "13w, 30w, 40w" on it.

Can I use this "13w, 30w, 40w" switch with my 15w lamp?


** Most single tube starters are " Universal " ie 4-65W or 4-80W units.



.... Phil

Phil Allison
Guest

Sat Jan 07, 2012 4:49 am   



"Tegger"
Quote:
"Phil Allison"
"Tegger"

I have an older 18" fluorescent lamp that takes a 15WT8 bulb. As of this
morning, it no marcha. I suspect the starter switch, which is your
glass-tube type and is pretty black inside.

The problem is that I can't find any "15w" starter switches at any
location close to me. I can, however, cheaply and easily find a white,
cylindrical starter switch that says, "13w, 30w, 40w" on it.

Can I use this "13w, 30w, 40w" switch with my 15w lamp?


** Most single tube starters are " Universal " ie 4-65W or 4-80W units.


Thank you.

But why the listing of three discrete wattages, rather than an upper-and-
lower range of wattages?


** Marketing reasons.



.... Phil

Tegger
Guest

Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:46 am   



"Phil Allison" <phil_a_at_tpg.com.au> wrote in news:9mprnlF391U1
@mid.individual.net:

Quote:

"Tegger"

I have an older 18" fluorescent lamp that takes a 15WT8 bulb. As of this
morning, it no marcha. I suspect the starter switch, which is your
glass-tube type and is pretty black inside.

The problem is that I can't find any "15w" starter switches at any
location close to me. I can, however, cheaply and easily find a white,
cylindrical starter switch that says, "13w, 30w, 40w" on it.

Can I use this "13w, 30w, 40w" switch with my 15w lamp?


** Most single tube starters are " Universal " ie 4-65W or 4-80W units.




Thank you.

But why the listing of three discrete wattages, rather than an upper-and-
lower range of wattages?


--
Tegger

Phil Allison
Guest

Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:27 pm   



"Tegger"
Quote:
"Phil Allison"
"Tegger"


But why the listing of three discrete wattages, rather than an
upper-and- lower range of wattages?


** Marketing reasons.


So I can safely use this multi-rated starter for my 15w fixture?


** Been using " 4-80 W " starters on my 15W desk lamp for decades.



.... Phil

Tegger
Guest

Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:56 pm   



"Phil Allison" <phil_a_at_tpg.com.au> wrote in
news:9mptn2FfdvU1_at_mid.individual.net:

Quote:

"Tegger"


But why the listing of three discrete wattages, rather than an
upper-and- lower range of wattages?


** Marketing reasons.



So I can safely use this multi-rated starter for my 15w fixture?


--
Tegger

hrhofmann@att.net
Guest

Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:13 pm   



On Jan 7, 6:56 am, Tegger <inva...@example.com> wrote:
Quote:
"Phil Allison" <phi...@tpg.com.au> wrote innews:9mptn2FfdvU1_at_mid.individual.net:



"Tegger"

But why the listing of three discrete wattages, rather than an
upper-and- lower range of wattages?

** Marketing reasons.

So I can safely use this multi-rated starter for my 15w fixture?

--
Tegger

See - we treat you just as nice here as on alt home repair.

Tegger
Guest

Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:23 pm   



"hrhofmann_at_att.net" <hrhofmann_at_att.net> wrote in
news:0f52f936-8c46-479a-8596-77d830c9496d_at_a17g2000yqj.googlegroups.com:


Quote:

See - we treat you just as nice here as on alt home repair.



Appreciate that.

Last time I posted here was many years ago, in relation to a microwave
oven. I was roundly scolded by somebody named "Sam Goldwasser", evidently
because I had posted an ignorant question.



--
Tegger

Tegger
Guest

Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:15 am   



"Phil Allison" <phil_a_at_tpg.com.au> wrote in news:9mqvhnFst9U1
@mid.individual.net:

Quote:

"Tegger"
"Phil Allison"
"Tegger"


But why the listing of three discrete wattages, rather than an
upper-and- lower range of wattages?


** Marketing reasons.


So I can safely use this multi-rated starter for my 15w fixture?


** Been using " 4-80 W " starters on my 15W desk lamp for decades.



... Phil







An update: It turns out that the failure was almost certainly /not/ due to
the starter, so it's a good thing I didn't blow $4 on a new one. I removed
the starter from the fixture for testing purposes, leaving bare wire-ends
on the bypass circuit.

I tried three bulbs, two brand-new. Plus I tested the tubes' filaments for
continuity. All tested good, and all worked in another fixture.

I also tested for continuity within the fixture where it seemed logical to
see it. I assumed I'd find an open through the ballast, which I did find.

But I guessed that when the ballast was fed with (a measured) 123VAC, I'd
see something similar across the wires where the starter was, but all I
found was 2.5VAC. That appears to be not enough to strike a spark, and no
spark was had, no matter how slowly I brought the wires together.

My guess now is that the ballast is bad. In any case, I went to Walmart and
bought a near dead-ringer of my old GE unit for a whopping $13. So this
matter is done. Thanks, Phil.


--
Tegger

klem kedidelhopper
Guest

Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:58 pm   



On Jan 7, 6:15 pm, Tegger <inva...@example.com> wrote:
Quote:
"Phil Allison" <phi...@tpg.com.au> wrote in news:9mqvhnFst9U1
@mid.individual.net:





"Tegger"
"Phil Allison"
"Tegger"

But why the listing of three discrete wattages, rather than an
upper-and- lower range of wattages?

** Marketing reasons.

So I can safely use this multi-rated starter for my 15w fixture?

** Been using " 4-80 W " starters on my 15W desk lamp for decades.

...  Phil

An update: It turns out that the failure was almost certainly /not/ due to
the starter, so it's a good thing I didn't blow $4 on a new one. I removed
the starter from the fixture for testing purposes, leaving bare wire-ends
on the bypass circuit.

I tried three bulbs, two brand-new. Plus I tested the tubes' filaments for
continuity. All tested good, and all worked in another fixture.

I also tested for continuity within the fixture where it seemed logical to
see it. I assumed I'd find an open through the ballast, which I did find.

But I guessed that when the ballast was fed with (a measured) 123VAC, I'd
see something similar across the wires where the starter was, but all I
found was 2.5VAC. That appears to be not enough to strike a spark, and no
spark was had, no matter how slowly I brought the wires together.

My guess now is that the ballast is bad. In any case, I went to Walmart and
bought a near dead-ringer of my old GE unit for a whopping $13. So this
matter is done. Thanks, Phil.

--
Tegger

Except for the fact that China got another dollar out of the deal and
Walmart got twelve. Lenny

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