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John Larkin
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Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:45 pm   



https://www.analog.com/en/products/hmc841.html

It's $616.69 each in 100 quantity.


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lunatic fringe electronics

Steve Wilson
Guest

Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:45 pm   



John Larkin <jjlarkin_at_highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

Quote:
https://www.analog.com/en/products/hmc841.html

It's $616.69 each in 100 quantity.


That part was $317 before ADI bought Hittite.

Here's a 50 Gbps part:

https://www.adsantec.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/ASNT5111-KMC_
50GbpsDFF_v2-1-1.pdf


Guest

Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:45 pm   



On Wednesday, January 30, 2019 at 11:02:17 AM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
Quote:
https://www.analog.com/en/products/hmc841.html

It's $616.69 each in 100 quantity.


They've got a sample button. What more do you want???

Rick C.

- Get 6 months of free supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

John Larkin
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Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:45 pm   



On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 16:18:52 GMT, Steve Wilson <no_at_spam.com> wrote:

Quote:
John Larkin <jjlarkin_at_highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

https://www.analog.com/en/products/hmc841.html

It's $616.69 each in 100 quantity.

That part was $317 before ADI bought Hittite.


Looks like they multiplied by 2. Soak the people who are committed to
it.

Quote:

Here's a 50 Gbps part:

https://www.adsantec.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/ASNT5111-KMC_
50GbpsDFF_v2-1-1.pdf


Those may be Russian imports.

The Hittite part has a lot more output swing, and variable swing.

Unfortunately, we need a reset input, so we can't use either.


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John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics

bitrex
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Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:45 pm   



On 01/30/2019 11:08 AM, gnuarm.deletethisbit_at_gmail.com wrote:
Quote:
On Wednesday, January 30, 2019 at 11:02:17 AM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.analog.com/en/products/hmc841.html

It's $616.69 each in 100 quantity.

They've got a sample button. What more do you want???

Rick C.

- Get 6 months of free supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209


everyone here should request a sample and say we all work for "VANDELAY
INDUSTRIES"

bitrex
Guest

Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:45 pm   



On 01/30/2019 11:33 AM, John Larkin wrote:
Quote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 16:18:52 GMT, Steve Wilson <no_at_spam.com> wrote:

John Larkin <jjlarkin_at_highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

https://www.analog.com/en/products/hmc841.html

It's $616.69 each in 100 quantity.

That part was $317 before ADI bought Hittite.

Looks like they multiplied by 2. Soak the people who are committed to
it.


Here's a 50 Gbps part:

https://www.adsantec.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/ASNT5111-KMC_
50GbpsDFF_v2-1-1.pdf

Those may be Russian imports.

The Hittite part has a lot more output swing, and variable swing.

Unfortunately, we need a reset input, so we can't use either.



two ECL 2:1 multiplexers are probably $20 in singles, an ECL inverter
around $5, probably get you a D flip flop within an order of magnitude
of that speed on the "cheap"

Lasse Langwadt Christense
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Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:45 pm   



onsdag den 30. januar 2019 kl. 17.33.26 UTC+1 skrev John Larkin:
Quote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 16:18:52 GMT, Steve Wilson <no_at_spam.com> wrote:

John Larkin <jjlarkin_at_highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

https://www.analog.com/en/products/hmc841.html

It's $616.69 each in 100 quantity.

That part was $317 before ADI bought Hittite.

Looks like they multiplied by 2. Soak the people who are committed to
it.


or discourage those who doesn't _really_ need it from buy what is left

Phil Hobbs
Guest

Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:45 pm   



On 1/30/19 11:02 AM, John Larkin wrote:
Quote:

https://www.analog.com/en/products/hmc841.html

It's $616.69 each in 100 quantity.


And on LTB, so stock up. Wink


Beasty clock rate, but surprisingly crappy deterministic jitter--2 ps
out of a 23 ps cycle time.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
https://hobbs-eo.com


Guest

Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:45 pm   



On a sunny day (Wed, 30 Jan 2019 08:33:18 -0800) it happened John Larkin
<jjlarkin_at_highlandtechnology.com> wrote in
<a0k35e94j5otdl4pitg6pjsrer1um58u17_at_4ax.com>:

Quote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 16:18:52 GMT, Steve Wilson <no_at_spam.com> wrote:

John Larkin <jjlarkin_at_highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

https://www.analog.com/en/products/hmc841.html

It's $616.69 each in 100 quantity.

That part was $317 before ADI bought Hittite.

Looks like they multiplied by 2. Soak the people who are committed to
it.


Here's a 50 Gbps part:

https://www.adsantec.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/ASNT5111-KMC_
50GbpsDFF_v2-1-1.pdf

Those may be Russian imports.

The Hittite part has a lot more output swing, and variable swing.

Unfortunately, we need a reset input, so we can't use either.


Toggle supply?

Does it have a defined power on state?

Steve Wilson
Guest

Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:45 pm   



John Larkin <jjlarkin_at_highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

Quote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 16:18:52 GMT, Steve Wilson <no_at_spam.com> wrote:

John Larkin <jjlarkin_at_highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

https://www.analog.com/en/products/hmc841.html

It's $616.69 each in 100 quantity.

That part was $317 before ADI bought Hittite.

Looks like they multiplied by 2. Soak the people who are committed to
it.

Here's a 50 Gbps part:

https://www.adsantec.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/ASNT5111-KMC_
50GbpsDFF_v2-1-1.pdf

Those may be Russian imports.

The Hittite part has a lot more output swing, and variable swing.

Unfortunately, we need a reset input, so we can't use either.


The 68 GHz to 76 GHz parts used for 5G cellular phones show it can be made
very cheap. It would be nice if someone made simple logic devices for these
frequencies.

Gerhard Hoffmann
Guest

Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:45 pm   



Am 30.01.19 um 17:18 schrieb Steve Wilson:
Quote:
John Larkin <jjlarkin_at_highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

https://www.analog.com/en/products/hmc841.html

It's $616.69 each in 100 quantity.

That part was $317 before ADI bought Hittite.


It is on "last time buy", so this is a "don't touch me" price.

B4 ADI bought Hittite you could barely get a data sheet.
Now the stuff is at DK and Mouser.

But the rise time is nearly as fast as the 9 ps of my
fastest scope plug-in. I always wanted something that
could stress that spec.

:-)
Gerhard

John S
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Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:45 pm   



On 1/30/2019 10:02 AM, John Larkin wrote:
Quote:

https://www.analog.com/en/products/hmc841.html

It's $616.69 each in 100 quantity.


I thought flip-flops were those cheap sandals.

John Larkin
Guest

Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:45 pm   



On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 12:28:52 -0500, bitrex <user_at_example.net> wrote:

Quote:
On 01/30/2019 11:33 AM, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 16:18:52 GMT, Steve Wilson <no_at_spam.com> wrote:

John Larkin <jjlarkin_at_highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

https://www.analog.com/en/products/hmc841.html

It's $616.69 each in 100 quantity.

That part was $317 before ADI bought Hittite.

Looks like they multiplied by 2. Soak the people who are committed to
it.


Here's a 50 Gbps part:

https://www.adsantec.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/ASNT5111-KMC_
50GbpsDFF_v2-1-1.pdf

Those may be Russian imports.

The Hittite part has a lot more output swing, and variable swing.

Unfortunately, we need a reset input, so we can't use either.



two ECL 2:1 multiplexers are probably $20 in singles, an ECL inverter
around $5, probably get you a D flip flop within an order of magnitude
of that speed on the "cheap"


There aren't may parts, ECL or anything, with edge rates in the 10s of
PS. Even the EclipsPlus SiGe stuff is too slow for what we have in
mind.

We don't care much about parts cost. Performance sells.




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John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing precision measurement

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

John Larkin
Guest

Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:45 pm   



On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 19:24:26 +0100, Gerhard Hoffmann
<ghf_at_hoffmann-hochfrequenz.de> wrote:

Quote:
Am 30.01.19 um 17:18 schrieb Steve Wilson:
John Larkin <jjlarkin_at_highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

https://www.analog.com/en/products/hmc841.html

It's $616.69 each in 100 quantity.

That part was $317 before ADI bought Hittite.

It is on "last time buy", so this is a "don't touch me" price.

B4 ADI bought Hittite you could barely get a data sheet.
Now the stuff is at DK and Mouser.

But the rise time is nearly as fast as the 9 ps of my
fastest scope plug-in. I always wanted something that
could stress that spec.

:-)
Gerhard


Some of those Hittite parts would make nice sampling scope testers.


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John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing precision measurement

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

John Larkin
Guest

Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:45 pm   



On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 12:30:51 -0500, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless_at_electrooptical.net> wrote:

Quote:
On 1/30/19 11:02 AM, John Larkin wrote:

https://www.analog.com/en/products/hmc841.html

It's $616.69 each in 100 quantity.


And on LTB, so stock up. ;)

Beasty clock rate, but surprisingly crappy deterministic jitter--2 ps
out of a 23 ps cycle time.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs


It can't be that bad in real life.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing precision measurement

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

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