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Rod Speed
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Wed Dec 28, 2016 5:34 pm   



"Petzl" <petzlx_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 18:13:10 +1100, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks for this Rod, Telstra have removed many pillars now I only see
one where there was none before the only number is on the cabinet
2CBT-08-18-FNO-001
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/50667687/DSCN0485.JPG

There should be a number on that pillar and you need to know
that to know if it's the pillar you are connected to now. The lettering
may be quite faded, but it will be there. Much bigger letters than
on the node cabinet.

NBN or whoever have even replaced the 2nd hand pillar they originally
used.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/50667687/NBNcabnet2.jpg
The "new" one is painted silver


There should still be some ID label on it unless someone
has fucked up and its still got the temporary cover.

Quote:
The bill from Telstra only name the "plan" not to details there "verbal's"
said I would be on a down speed, promised was at 50Mb/s.


The only guarantee is for 25Mb and that is only after the coexistence
period which happens for 18 months. Until then the only guarantee is 12/1

keithr0
Guest

Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:58 am   



On 12/28/2016 3:00 PM, Rod Speed wrote:

Quote:
VDSL2 is very sensitive to the house wiring and you can see
your speeds halved by radial wiring of phone extensions.
Ideally you should plug the incoming phone line directly
into your modem/router and not have any extensions for
the best internet speed. That effect is due to the spurs
to the phone extensions resonating at the much higher
frequencys used by VDSL2 and producing nulls.


The first point in our house is in my office, then there are points in
the kitchen and main bedroom. I wanted the base station for the cordless
phone system in the kitchen as that is the most convenient place for the
answering machine, but the modem simply did not work on that point. The
solution was to split the wiring in the office and install a dual
socket. So the modem is the only thing on the external line, and the
modems VOIP output connects to the other sockets.

Rod Speed
Guest

Thu Dec 29, 2016 7:23 am   



"keithr0" <user_at_account.invalid> wrote in message
news:eciud7FhmsrU1_at_mid.individual.net...
Quote:
On 12/28/2016 3:00 PM, Rod Speed wrote:

VDSL2 is very sensitive to the house wiring and you can see
your speeds halved by radial wiring of phone extensions.
Ideally you should plug the incoming phone line directly
into your modem/router and not have any extensions for
the best internet speed. That effect is due to the spurs
to the phone extensions resonating at the much higher
frequencys used by VDSL2 and producing nulls.

The first point in our house is in my office, then there are points in the
kitchen and main bedroom. I wanted the base station for the cordless phone
system in the kitchen as that is the most convenient place for the
answering machine, but the modem simply did not work on that point. The
solution was to split the wiring in the office and install a dual socket.
So the modem is the only thing on the external line, and the modems VOIP
output connects to the other sockets.


Yeah, that's what I meant. His low numbers may be because he isnt doing
that.

Petzl
Guest

Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:30 am   



On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 11:23:37 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:


"keithr0" <user_at_account.invalid> wrote in message
news:eciud7FhmsrU1_at_mid.individual.net...
On 12/28/2016 3:00 PM, Rod Speed wrote:

VDSL2 is very sensitive to the house wiring and you can see
your speeds halved by radial wiring of phone extensions.
Ideally you should plug the incoming phone line directly
into your modem/router and not have any extensions for
the best internet speed. That effect is due to the spurs
to the phone extensions resonating at the much higher
frequencys used by VDSL2 and producing nulls.

The first point in our house is in my office, then there are points in the
kitchen and main bedroom. I wanted the base station for the cordless phone
system in the kitchen as that is the most convenient place for the
answering machine, but the modem simply did not work on that point. The
solution was to split the wiring in the office and install a dual socket.
So the modem is the only thing on the external line, and the modems VOIP
output connects to the other sockets.

Yeah, that's what I meant. His low numbers may be because he isnt doing
that.


only have one point in house
--
Petzl

Rod Speed
Guest

Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:30 am   



"Petzl" <petzlx_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
news:p7v86cdjukhvkeobvt0mk559j8irfuc6jb_at_4ax.com...
Quote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 11:23:37 +1100, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com> wrote:



"keithr0" <user_at_account.invalid> wrote in message
news:eciud7FhmsrU1_at_mid.individual.net...
On 12/28/2016 3:00 PM, Rod Speed wrote:

VDSL2 is very sensitive to the house wiring and you can see
your speeds halved by radial wiring of phone extensions.
Ideally you should plug the incoming phone line directly
into your modem/router and not have any extensions for
the best internet speed. That effect is due to the spurs
to the phone extensions resonating at the much higher
frequencys used by VDSL2 and producing nulls.

The first point in our house is in my office, then there are points in
the
kitchen and main bedroom. I wanted the base station for the cordless
phone
system in the kitchen as that is the most convenient place for the
answering machine, but the modem simply did not work on that point. The
solution was to split the wiring in the office and install a dual
socket.
So the modem is the only thing on the external line, and the modems VOIP
output connects to the other sockets.

Yeah, that's what I meant. His low numbers may be because he isnt doing
that.

only have one point in house


Then you must be quite a distance from the node
to get such a low speed, bit less than a kilometer.

Lucifer Morningstar
Guest

Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:30 am   



On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 16:09:37 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:


"Petzl" <petzlx_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
news:p7v86cdjukhvkeobvt0mk559j8irfuc6jb_at_4ax.com...
On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 11:23:37 +1100, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com> wrote:



"keithr0" <user_at_account.invalid> wrote in message
news:eciud7FhmsrU1_at_mid.individual.net...
On 12/28/2016 3:00 PM, Rod Speed wrote:

VDSL2 is very sensitive to the house wiring and you can see
your speeds halved by radial wiring of phone extensions.
Ideally you should plug the incoming phone line directly
into your modem/router and not have any extensions for
the best internet speed. That effect is due to the spurs
to the phone extensions resonating at the much higher
frequencys used by VDSL2 and producing nulls.

The first point in our house is in my office, then there are points in
the
kitchen and main bedroom. I wanted the base station for the cordless
phone
system in the kitchen as that is the most convenient place for the
answering machine, but the modem simply did not work on that point. The
solution was to split the wiring in the office and install a dual
socket.
So the modem is the only thing on the external line, and the modems VOIP
output connects to the other sockets.

Yeah, that's what I meant. His low numbers may be because he isnt doing
that.

only have one point in house

Then you must be quite a distance from the node
to get such a low speed, bit less than a kilometer.


You must be in the US.

--
I call shenanigans on all theistic religions

Petzl
Guest

Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:30 am   



On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 16:09:37 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:


"Petzl" <petzlx_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
news:p7v86cdjukhvkeobvt0mk559j8irfuc6jb_at_4ax.com...
On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 11:23:37 +1100, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com> wrote:



"keithr0" <user_at_account.invalid> wrote in message
news:eciud7FhmsrU1_at_mid.individual.net...
On 12/28/2016 3:00 PM, Rod Speed wrote:

VDSL2 is very sensitive to the house wiring and you can see
your speeds halved by radial wiring of phone extensions.
Ideally you should plug the incoming phone line directly
into your modem/router and not have any extensions for
the best internet speed. That effect is due to the spurs
to the phone extensions resonating at the much higher
frequencys used by VDSL2 and producing nulls.

The first point in our house is in my office, then there are points in
the
kitchen and main bedroom. I wanted the base station for the cordless
phone
system in the kitchen as that is the most convenient place for the
answering machine, but the modem simply did not work on that point. The
solution was to split the wiring in the office and install a dual
socket.
So the modem is the only thing on the external line, and the modems VOIP
output connects to the other sockets.

Yeah, that's what I meant. His low numbers may be because he isnt doing
that.

only have one point in house

Then you must be quite a distance from the node
to get such a low speed, bit less than a kilometer.


I'm thinking Telecom have it limited
When I first connected I chose the 25Mb/s plan
Then they advertised their $99 a month deal which I upgraded to which
is supposed to be 50Mb/s down speed
They started charging $110 which was changed to $99 seemed to have to
ring them up each month after around 2 hours a time I were credited
the $10, then it was 2 months before they sent me their TestraTV and
were told they wouldn't or didn't send it till I got the 50Mb/s down
speed?

A kilometre is not that far but I estimate it is 500 metres but the
wire may be longer I suppose?

Just get worn down talking to incompetent clowns who don't deliver.
Same I found in dealing with Telecome in the 80's over 30 years and
1000's of them never fixing a problem till a service managers select
team found it was wired wrong and fixed it in less than 10 minutes.
--
Petzl

Rod Speed
Guest

Fri Dec 30, 2016 1:43 am   



"Lucifer Morningstar" <Barry_at_saymyname.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 16:09:37 +1100, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com> wrote:



"Petzl" <petzlx_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
news:p7v86cdjukhvkeobvt0mk559j8irfuc6jb_at_4ax.com...
On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 11:23:37 +1100, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com> wrote:



"keithr0" <user_at_account.invalid> wrote in message
news:eciud7FhmsrU1_at_mid.individual.net...
On 12/28/2016 3:00 PM, Rod Speed wrote:

VDSL2 is very sensitive to the house wiring and you can see
your speeds halved by radial wiring of phone extensions.
Ideally you should plug the incoming phone line directly
into your modem/router and not have any extensions for
the best internet speed. That effect is due to the spurs
to the phone extensions resonating at the much higher
frequencys used by VDSL2 and producing nulls.

The first point in our house is in my office, then there are points in
the
kitchen and main bedroom. I wanted the base station for the cordless
phone
system in the kitchen as that is the most convenient place for the
answering machine, but the modem simply did not work on that point.
The
solution was to split the wiring in the office and install a dual
socket.
So the modem is the only thing on the external line, and the modems
VOIP
output connects to the other sockets.

Yeah, that's what I meant. His low numbers may be because he isnt doing
that.

only have one point in house

Then you must be quite a distance from the node
to get such a low speed, bit less than a kilometer.

You must be in the US.


Nope. You must be a pom.

Rod Speed
Guest

Fri Dec 30, 2016 1:48 am   



"Petzl" <petzlx_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5fc96cd24r22uevepkp41mvlmn8rq58hu5_at_4ax.com...
Quote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 16:09:37 +1100, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com> wrote:



"Petzl" <petzlx_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
news:p7v86cdjukhvkeobvt0mk559j8irfuc6jb_at_4ax.com...
On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 11:23:37 +1100, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com> wrote:



"keithr0" <user_at_account.invalid> wrote in message
news:eciud7FhmsrU1_at_mid.individual.net...
On 12/28/2016 3:00 PM, Rod Speed wrote:

VDSL2 is very sensitive to the house wiring and you can see
your speeds halved by radial wiring of phone extensions.
Ideally you should plug the incoming phone line directly
into your modem/router and not have any extensions for
the best internet speed. That effect is due to the spurs
to the phone extensions resonating at the much higher
frequencys used by VDSL2 and producing nulls.

The first point in our house is in my office, then there are points in
the
kitchen and main bedroom. I wanted the base station for the cordless
phone
system in the kitchen as that is the most convenient place for the
answering machine, but the modem simply did not work on that point.
The
solution was to split the wiring in the office and install a dual
socket.
So the modem is the only thing on the external line, and the modems
VOIP
output connects to the other sockets.

Yeah, that's what I meant. His low numbers may be because he isnt doing
that.

only have one point in house

Then you must be quite a distance from the node
to get such a low speed, bit less than a kilometer.

I'm thinking Telecom have it limited
When I first connected I chose the 25Mb/s plan
Then they advertised their $99 a month deal which I upgraded to which
is supposed to be 50Mb/s down speed
They started charging $110 which was changed to $99 seemed to have to
ring them up each month after around 2 hours a time I were credited
the $10, then it was 2 months before they sent me their TestraTV and
were told they wouldn't or didn't send it till I got the 50Mb/s down
speed?

A kilometre is not that far but I estimate it is 500 metres


You should be getting better than that at that distance.

> but the wire may be longer I suppose?

Yeah, it isnt easy to work out where the street cable actually
goes, or even the pillar you are actually wired to either.

> Just get worn down talking to incompetent clowns who don't deliver.

They are only required to provide 12/1 in this coexistence
phase, before all the adsl is turned off. That phase lasts 18
months. And they only guarantee 25/1 after that too.

Quote:
Same I found in dealing with Telecome in the 80's over 30 years and
1000's of them never fixing a problem till a service managers select
team found it was wired wrong and fixed it in less than 10 minutes.


Its different now because they do know which pillar and node
you are connected to and that determines the speed you are
getting, the distance to that and the type of cable used etc.

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