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F Murtz
Guest

Mon Dec 26, 2016 8:30 am   



Rod Speed wrote:
Quote:


"keithr0" <user_at_account.invalid> wrote in message
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On 12/24/2016 1:33 PM, Rod Speed wrote:


"Petzl" <petzlx_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 03:58:54 +1100, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com> wrote:



"Petzl" <petzlx_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 21:32:24 +1100, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com> wrote:



"Petzl" <petzlx_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 15:16:17 +1100, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com> wrote:

It does appear to be available today at my place.

I was originally planning to stay with dodo until my contract
ran out,
8 months @ $24/month break fee. Not attractive in the long term,
myrepublic.net is much better value for 100/40 unlimited, $60,
dodo
wants $100 for that. Dodo will allow you to change to the NBN
with
no contract penalty, but that involves a whole new 2 year
contract.

The whirlpool comments on myrepublic arent great, will be interesting to
see
how they pan out in practice. Rather slower delivery of a service than
some.
The local telstra shop manager I was talking to in the big van they had up
the main street on Friday and Saturday said that those who had ordered
a service on Friday were given a 3-Jan date for actually being able to use
it. Bit hard to believe given that they would have to be pretty lucky to
deliver the modem/router that quick given the sag between Xmas and
New Year with Aust Post.

No one has admitted to having ordered on on the local facebook
community noticeboard yet so itís a bit hard to see if that will happen.

The general opinion on whirlpool is that Telstra's delivery is one of
the best.

Pretty lousy value tho.

Dodo's retention people could only offer me $95/month but were
happy to halve the break fee to just $99.

I signed up with myreplublic.net, but that froze on the final
screen.
Rang them, but have now been on hold for 25 mins.

They did eventually answer the phone, had no record
of the online signup so I signed up on the phone.

I only found FttN was available by checking online

Mate of mine found a big Telstra van down the main street today
and asked them when it would be available. He said today in half
the town and a couple more weeks in the other half.

About a month later letters started arriving from ISP's of offers.

We've been having those for months now, mostly from iprimus and
someone else I can't remember. None from dodo or telstra tho even
tho I have used both in the past and currently use dodo.

Also had problems for Telstra to give me correct bill always over
charged by around $10. Took them months to give me a TV modem
which I use for programs I miss not paying for any Netflix etc.

Havent used them for more than a decade now. I did use them
when adsl first showed up, basically in case there were problems.

Well I hated Telecom to ring across the road was a toll cal (046) to
(02)

That's not true. When that was across the road, it was still a local
call.

Didn't aply to me in Campbelltown?

Yes it did.

when we were allowed to use Optus I changed.

I do use them for mobile, or more
strictly amaysim who resells them.

Now with NBN freecalls becoming a norm,

That is not correct. You pay extra per month for that.

something must change even better?

What ?

Problem here is like all bureaucracies they can't or won't
fire dickheads instead they sent them to Sydney's furtherest
outpost. A legacy of this was bodged copperwire instalation.

The NBN is being done by contractors.

Who is doing Turnbulls FttN copper to home?

Dunno, ours used largely unmarked Avis rental vans.

The bigger trucks used to dig the holes that the nodes
are above, in the green metal boxes, were also unmarked,
presumably also rented.

The original ones around our way were identifiable as Thiess Brothers.
There was another mob that had ID on their vans they were called
Visionstream, I think that they were the ones doing the fibre
termination which is the most skilled part of the job.

http://www.visionstream.com.au/projects/nbn/

Come to think of it, never noticed anyone running any fiber.

But then I mostly did a bit of a wander in the car after
the garage sale run early on Saturday mornings to see
where they were up to so may well have missed that.

Turns out ours was usable rather quicker than yours,

Not clear if our pillars have been modified or not,
they do appear to be a bit taller than they were maybe
and certainly mostly have new covers on them with
handles down the full length of both sides. I thought
those were temporary covers but they now have
proper id lettering on them so are unlikely to be temps.

According to that Telstra shop manager, they do jumper
from your adsl service to your FTTN service in those pillars.

The poor bugger is out on the extreme edge of town
in the newest subdivision and they get a wireless NBN
service from the village a bit further out that isnt going
to get FTTN. Pathetic performance, very variable and
download speeds using speedtest can be 1Mb at times
and is never better than 25. I might get 80 myself.

Well I hope they hurry up so I can get an idea of myrepublic before I
join up, PS. I never take all that much notice of whirlpool reports
although they sometimes set my mind off on other tangents where I can
get a better idea.

Lucifer Morningstar
Guest

Tue Dec 27, 2016 8:30 am   



On Sun, 25 Dec 2016 10:57:36 +1100, Petzl <petzlx_at_gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 19:19:07 +1100, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com> wrote:



"Petzl" <petzlx_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3sas5chqeb566rm3q715d8uet2a16prtvb_at_4ax.com...
On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 15:47:29 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz_at_hotmail.com
wrote:

Well I hated Telecom to ring across the road was a toll cal (046) to
(02)

That's not true. When that was across the road, it was still a local
call.

Didn't aply to me in Campbelltown?


With my existing bundle all calls are timed.

Well depending on who you sign-up with and what bundle you choose,
very likely timed calls will be dead.

I have just signed up for timed non local calls,
because I call using voip which is untimed.

Does that include mobile calls nationally?
Most I call use mobile phones not landline so it was an advantage to
get mobile calls included in package.
Plus I wanted the 1000 gig data and the Telstra video (which does not
come off my data count/use).


I have 1000 gig data plus all local national and mobiles plus
Telstra TV for $99 a month. My connect speed is 12 Mbs.
Does that sound reasonable?

>Petzl

--
I call shenanigans on all theistic religions

Lucifer Morningstar
Guest

Tue Dec 27, 2016 2:32 pm   



For $40 a month you can get all local, national, and mobile calls
from your Telstra mobile.

--
I call shenanigans on all theistic religions

Petzl
Guest

Tue Dec 27, 2016 2:45 pm   



On Tue, 27 Dec 2016 18:29:21 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar
<Barry_at_saymyname.com> wrote:

Quote:
On Sun, 25 Dec 2016 10:57:36 +1100, Petzl <petzlx_at_gmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 19:19:07 +1100, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com> wrote:



"Petzl" <petzlx_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3sas5chqeb566rm3q715d8uet2a16prtvb_at_4ax.com...
On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 15:47:29 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz_at_hotmail.com
wrote:

Well I hated Telecom to ring across the road was a toll cal (046) to
(02)

That's not true. When that was across the road, it was still a local
call.

Didn't aply to me in Campbelltown?


With my existing bundle all calls are timed.

Well depending on who you sign-up with and what bundle you choose,
very likely timed calls will be dead.

I have just signed up for timed non local calls,
because I call using voip which is untimed.

Does that include mobile calls nationally?
Most I call use mobile phones not landline so it was an advantage to
get mobile calls included in package.
Plus I wanted the 1000 gig data and the Telstra video (which does not
come off my data count/use).

I have 1000 gig data plus all local national and mobiles plus
Telstra TV for $99 a month. My connect speed is 12 Mbs.
Does that sound reasonable?


Same deal I have but FttN so getting what was promised with ASDL
resullts from
http://www.speedtest.net

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/50667687/speedtestFTTN.png
Before FttN
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/50667687/speedtestTelstra.png
--
Petzl

Lucifer Morningstar
Guest

Tue Dec 27, 2016 3:27 pm   



On Tue, 27 Dec 2016 18:45:49 +1100, Petzl <petzlx_at_gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
On Tue, 27 Dec 2016 18:29:21 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar
Barry_at_saymyname.com> wrote:

On Sun, 25 Dec 2016 10:57:36 +1100, Petzl <petzlx_at_gmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 19:19:07 +1100, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com> wrote:



"Petzl" <petzlx_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3sas5chqeb566rm3q715d8uet2a16prtvb_at_4ax.com...
On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 15:47:29 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz_at_hotmail.com
wrote:

Well I hated Telecom to ring across the road was a toll cal (046) to
(02)

That's not true. When that was across the road, it was still a local
call.

Didn't aply to me in Campbelltown?


With my existing bundle all calls are timed.

Well depending on who you sign-up with and what bundle you choose,
very likely timed calls will be dead.

I have just signed up for timed non local calls,
because I call using voip which is untimed.

Does that include mobile calls nationally?
Most I call use mobile phones not landline so it was an advantage to
get mobile calls included in package.
Plus I wanted the 1000 gig data and the Telstra video (which does not
come off my data count/use).

I have 1000 gig data plus all local national and mobiles plus
Telstra TV for $99 a month. My connect speed is 12 Mbs.
Does that sound reasonable?

Same deal I have but FttN so getting what was promised with ASDL
resullts from
http://www.speedtest.net

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/50667687/speedtestFTTN.png
Before FttN
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/50667687/speedtestTelstra.png
--
Petzl


Good speed now but FTTP would be better.

--
I call shenanigans on all theistic religions

Rod Speed
Guest

Tue Dec 27, 2016 3:28 pm   



"Lucifer Morningstar" <Barry_at_saymyname.com> wrote in message
news:ju546cps5au1r9ggd8fq806k5om1qf0g43_at_4ax.com...
Quote:
On Sun, 25 Dec 2016 10:57:36 +1100, Petzl <petzlx_at_gmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 19:19:07 +1100, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com> wrote:



"Petzl" <petzlx_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3sas5chqeb566rm3q715d8uet2a16prtvb_at_4ax.com...
On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 15:47:29 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz_at_hotmail.com
wrote:

Well I hated Telecom to ring across the road was a toll cal (046)
to
(02)

That's not true. When that was across the road, it was still a local
call.

Didn't aply to me in Campbelltown?


With my existing bundle all calls are timed.

Well depending on who you sign-up with and what bundle you choose,
very likely timed calls will be dead.

I have just signed up for timed non local calls,
because I call using voip which is untimed.

Does that include mobile calls nationally?
Most I call use mobile phones not landline so it was an advantage to
get mobile calls included in package.
Plus I wanted the 1000 gig data and the Telstra video (which does not
come off my data count/use).

I have 1000 gig data plus all local national and mobiles plus
Telstra TV for $99 a month. My connect speed is 12 Mbs.
Does that sound reasonable?


Nope, I will have unlimited data, no included calls, for $60
I should get a connect speed of around 80Mbs, maybe higher.

Rod Speed
Guest

Tue Dec 27, 2016 3:29 pm   



"Lucifer Morningstar" <Barry_at_saymyname.com> wrote in message
news:h6646cdtlbcgfml0kk3gpm878ce501gob4_at_4ax.com...
Quote:
For $40 a month you can get all local, national, and mobile calls
from your Telstra mobile.


I can get that for $25 a month.

Petzl
Guest

Tue Dec 27, 2016 3:43 pm   



On Tue, 27 Dec 2016 19:28:44 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
I have just signed up for timed non local calls,
because I call using voip which is untimed.

Does that include mobile calls nationally?
Most I call use mobile phones not landline so it was an advantage to
get mobile calls included in package.
Plus I wanted the 1000 gig data and the Telstra video (which does not
come off my data count/use).

I have 1000 gig data plus all local national and mobiles plus
Telstra TV for $99 a month. My connect speed is 12 Mbs.
Does that sound reasonable?

Nope, I will have unlimited data, no included calls, for $60
I should get a connect speed of around 80Mbs, maybe higher.


Would like to see what speed you do end up with.
Basically all one is getting is a working ASDL connection as your
copperwire is nearer house.
--
Petzl

Rod Speed
Guest

Tue Dec 27, 2016 10:59 pm   



"Petzl" <petzlx_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
news:saa46c1k7qb1fmekalvhrmfoc9etarl1iv_at_4ax.com...
Quote:
On Tue, 27 Dec 2016 19:28:44 +1100, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com> wrote:

I have just signed up for timed non local calls,
because I call using voip which is untimed.

Does that include mobile calls nationally?
Most I call use mobile phones not landline so it was an advantage to
get mobile calls included in package.
Plus I wanted the 1000 gig data and the Telstra video (which does not
come off my data count/use).

I have 1000 gig data plus all local national and mobiles plus
Telstra TV for $99 a month. My connect speed is 12 Mbs.
Does that sound reasonable?

Nope, I will have unlimited data, no included calls, for $60
I should get a connect speed of around 80Mbs, maybe higher.

Would like to see what speed you do end up with.


So will I.

> Basically all one is getting is a working ASDL connection

I already have that, 8/1

> as your copperwire is nearer house.

VDSL2 is very different to ADSL2+

Rod Speed
Guest

Wed Dec 28, 2016 8:30 am   



"Petzl" <petzlx_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
news:pqn66cl69ueucbrsacnpnfi8m40svrvvs9_at_4ax.com...
Quote:
On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:00:01 +1100, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com> wrote:



"Petzl" <petzlx_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
news:o9566cpc1s4lgdpff6tl6oo6h7ros8eip5_at_4ax.com...
On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 02:59:55 +1100, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com> wrote:



"Petzl" <petzlx_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
news:saa46c1k7qb1fmekalvhrmfoc9etarl1iv_at_4ax.com...
On Tue, 27 Dec 2016 19:28:44 +1100, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com> wrote:

I have just signed up for timed non local calls,
because I call using voip which is untimed.

Does that include mobile calls nationally?
Most I call use mobile phones not landline so it was an advantage to
get mobile calls included in package.
Plus I wanted the 1000 gig data and the Telstra video (which does
not
come off my data count/use).

I have 1000 gig data plus all local national and mobiles plus
Telstra TV for $99 a month. My connect speed is 12 Mbs.
Does that sound reasonable?

Nope, I will have unlimited data, no included calls, for $60
I should get a connect speed of around 80Mbs, maybe higher.

Would like to see what speed you do end up with.

So will I.

Basically all one is getting is a working ASDL connection

I already have that, 8/1

as your copperwire is nearer house.

VDSL2 is very different to ADSL2+

I meant ADSL2+ should be the same as FttN
depending on copper wire to house connection.

Nope, VDSL2 is completely different to ADSL2+
ADSL2+ only goes to 2.2MHz on the copper,
VDSL2 goes to 30MHz.

I think I'm supposed to be on
50Mbs but only getting half that.

You likely have quite a long way between your house and the pillar.

How did you decide which pillar you are connected to ?
It can be different to the closest one, particularly if the
you are between the pillar and the exchange.

You can see which pillar you are on using
https://nationalmap.gov.au/#share=s-rmpw5abWbMHqO7gLqIzQhy9dC6p
That is one fucking weird web page. It crashes all of firefox, waterfox
and
pale
moon. Weird on chrome. Surprisingly enough works fine on IE11 but whines
about not being able to run in 3D mode and runs in 2D mode.

You can enter your address in the search box and it auto fills in the
address,
but clicking on that autofilled address does nothing. You have to manually
drag the map to your location and zoom in to your place. Then you click
on the box that surrounds your place to see the DA number. That number
is painted on your pillar cover.

Ignore what it has to say about FTTN, mine is completely wrong and
wildly out of date. Its essentially just a map of where the DAs are.
DA is distribution area, what street cables come off what pillars.
The pillar is usually close to one corner of the DA in the direction
of the exchange, but not always and isnt marked on that map.
Easy to find by driving around the streets in the DA tho or using
Google Street view to do that.

If you can't make it work, email me you street address and I'll do
it for you. The email address is valid. It looks munged but isnt.

https://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/map?address=
gives you the ADA of your node and that number is on
the front door of your node engraved into a plastic label.

What did you do about the wiring in your house ?

VDSL2 is very sensitive to the house wiring and you can see
your speeds halved by radial wiring of phone extensions.
Ideally you should plug the incoming phone line directly
into your modem/router and not have any extensions for
the best internet speed. That effect is due to the spurs
to the phone extensions resonating at the much higher
frequencys used by VDSL2 and producing nulls.

In theory you can get a complete printout of the full
detail of the cabling between your house and the
pillar but I'd still reading thru the whirlpool thread
on that and that is from a Jun-16 comment and may
be obsolete now.

Thanks for this Rod, Telstra have removed many pillars now I only see
one where there was none before the only number is on the cabinet
2CBT-08-18-FNO-001
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/50667687/DSCN0485.JPG

I think I'll ring the Philippines again Telstra are unable to give me
detailes of what plan I pay for.


It should be on your bill.

Rod Speed
Guest

Wed Dec 28, 2016 8:30 am   



"Petzl" <petzlx_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
news:pqn66cl69ueucbrsacnpnfi8m40svrvvs9_at_4ax.com...
Quote:
On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:00:01 +1100, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com> wrote:



"Petzl" <petzlx_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
news:o9566cpc1s4lgdpff6tl6oo6h7ros8eip5_at_4ax.com...
On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 02:59:55 +1100, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com> wrote:



"Petzl" <petzlx_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
news:saa46c1k7qb1fmekalvhrmfoc9etarl1iv_at_4ax.com...
On Tue, 27 Dec 2016 19:28:44 +1100, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com> wrote:

I have just signed up for timed non local calls,
because I call using voip which is untimed.

Does that include mobile calls nationally?
Most I call use mobile phones not landline so it was an advantage to
get mobile calls included in package.
Plus I wanted the 1000 gig data and the Telstra video (which does
not
come off my data count/use).

I have 1000 gig data plus all local national and mobiles plus
Telstra TV for $99 a month. My connect speed is 12 Mbs.
Does that sound reasonable?

Nope, I will have unlimited data, no included calls, for $60
I should get a connect speed of around 80Mbs, maybe higher.

Would like to see what speed you do end up with.

So will I.

Basically all one is getting is a working ASDL connection

I already have that, 8/1

as your copperwire is nearer house.

VDSL2 is very different to ADSL2+

I meant ADSL2+ should be the same as FttN
depending on copper wire to house connection.

Nope, VDSL2 is completely different to ADSL2+
ADSL2+ only goes to 2.2MHz on the copper,
VDSL2 goes to 30MHz.

I think I'm supposed to be on
50Mbs but only getting half that.

You likely have quite a long way between your house and the pillar.

How did you decide which pillar you are connected to ?
It can be different to the closest one, particularly if the
you are between the pillar and the exchange.

You can see which pillar you are on using
https://nationalmap.gov.au/#share=s-rmpw5abWbMHqO7gLqIzQhy9dC6p
That is one fucking weird web page. It crashes all of firefox, waterfox
and
pale
moon. Weird on chrome. Surprisingly enough works fine on IE11 but whines
about not being able to run in 3D mode and runs in 2D mode.

You can enter your address in the search box and it auto fills in the
address,
but clicking on that autofilled address does nothing. You have to manually
drag the map to your location and zoom in to your place. Then you click
on the box that surrounds your place to see the DA number. That number
is painted on your pillar cover.

Ignore what it has to say about FTTN, mine is completely wrong and
wildly out of date. Its essentially just a map of where the DAs are.
DA is distribution area, what street cables come off what pillars.
The pillar is usually close to one corner of the DA in the direction
of the exchange, but not always and isnt marked on that map.
Easy to find by driving around the streets in the DA tho or using
Google Street view to do that.

If you can't make it work, email me you street address and I'll do
it for you. The email address is valid. It looks munged but isnt.

https://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/map?address=
gives you the ADA of your node and that number is on
the front door of your node engraved into a plastic label.

What did you do about the wiring in your house ?

VDSL2 is very sensitive to the house wiring and you can see
your speeds halved by radial wiring of phone extensions.
Ideally you should plug the incoming phone line directly
into your modem/router and not have any extensions for
the best internet speed. That effect is due to the spurs
to the phone extensions resonating at the much higher
frequencys used by VDSL2 and producing nulls.

In theory you can get a complete printout of the full
detail of the cabling between your house and the
pillar but I'd still reading thru the whirlpool thread
on that and that is from a Jun-16 comment and may
be obsolete now.

Thanks for this Rod, Telstra have removed many pillars now I only see
one where there was none before the only number is on the cabinet
2CBT-08-18-FNO-001
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/50667687/DSCN0485.JPG


There should be a number on that pillar and you need to know
that to know if it's the pillar you are connected to now. The lettering
may be quite faded, but it will be there. Much bigger letters than
on the node cabinet.

Quote:
I think I'll ring the Philippines again Telstra are unable to give me
detailes of what plan I pay for.
--
Petzl


Petzl
Guest

Wed Dec 28, 2016 8:30 am   



On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:00:01 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:


"Petzl" <petzlx_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
news:o9566cpc1s4lgdpff6tl6oo6h7ros8eip5_at_4ax.com...
On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 02:59:55 +1100, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com> wrote:



"Petzl" <petzlx_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
news:saa46c1k7qb1fmekalvhrmfoc9etarl1iv_at_4ax.com...
On Tue, 27 Dec 2016 19:28:44 +1100, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com> wrote:

I have just signed up for timed non local calls,
because I call using voip which is untimed.

Does that include mobile calls nationally?
Most I call use mobile phones not landline so it was an advantage to
get mobile calls included in package.
Plus I wanted the 1000 gig data and the Telstra video (which does not
come off my data count/use).

I have 1000 gig data plus all local national and mobiles plus
Telstra TV for $99 a month. My connect speed is 12 Mbs.
Does that sound reasonable?

Nope, I will have unlimited data, no included calls, for $60
I should get a connect speed of around 80Mbs, maybe higher.

Would like to see what speed you do end up with.

So will I.

Basically all one is getting is a working ASDL connection

I already have that, 8/1

as your copperwire is nearer house.

VDSL2 is very different to ADSL2+

I meant ADSL2+ should be the same as FttN
depending on copper wire to house connection.

Nope, VDSL2 is completely different to ADSL2+
ADSL2+ only goes to 2.2MHz on the copper,
VDSL2 goes to 30MHz.

I think I'm supposed to be on
50Mbs but only getting half that.

You likely have quite a long way between your house and the pillar.

How did you decide which pillar you are connected to ?
It can be different to the closest one, particularly if the
you are between the pillar and the exchange.

You can see which pillar you are on using
https://nationalmap.gov.au/#share=s-rmpw5abWbMHqO7gLqIzQhy9dC6p
That is one fucking weird web page. It crashes all of firefox, waterfox and
pale
moon. Weird on chrome. Surprisingly enough works fine on IE11 but whines
about not being able to run in 3D mode and runs in 2D mode.

You can enter your address in the search box and it auto fills in the
address,
but clicking on that autofilled address does nothing. You have to manually
drag the map to your location and zoom in to your place. Then you click
on the box that surrounds your place to see the DA number. That number
is painted on your pillar cover.

Ignore what it has to say about FTTN, mine is completely wrong and
wildly out of date. Its essentially just a map of where the DAs are.
DA is distribution area, what street cables come off what pillars.
The pillar is usually close to one corner of the DA in the direction
of the exchange, but not always and isnt marked on that map.
Easy to find by driving around the streets in the DA tho or using
Google Street view to do that.

If you can't make it work, email me you street address and I'll do
it for you. The email address is valid. It looks munged but isnt.

https://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/map?address=
gives you the ADA of your node and that number is on
the front door of your node engraved into a plastic label.

What did you do about the wiring in your house ?

VDSL2 is very sensitive to the house wiring and you can see
your speeds halved by radial wiring of phone extensions.
Ideally you should plug the incoming phone line directly
into your modem/router and not have any extensions for
the best internet speed. That effect is due to the spurs
to the phone extensions resonating at the much higher
frequencys used by VDSL2 and producing nulls.

In theory you can get a complete printout of the full
detail of the cabling between your house and the
pillar but I'd still reading thru the whirlpool thread
on that and that is from a Jun-16 comment and may
be obsolete now.


Thanks for this Rod, Telstra have removed many pillars now I only see
one where there was none before the only number is on the cabinet
2CBT-08-18-FNO-001
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/50667687/DSCN0485.JPG

I think I'll ring the Philippines again Telstra are unable to give me
detailes of what plan I pay for.
--
Petzl

Rod Speed
Guest

Wed Dec 28, 2016 8:30 am   



"Petzl" <petzlx_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
news:o9566cpc1s4lgdpff6tl6oo6h7ros8eip5_at_4ax.com...
Quote:
On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 02:59:55 +1100, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com> wrote:



"Petzl" <petzlx_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
news:saa46c1k7qb1fmekalvhrmfoc9etarl1iv_at_4ax.com...
On Tue, 27 Dec 2016 19:28:44 +1100, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com> wrote:

I have just signed up for timed non local calls,
because I call using voip which is untimed.

Does that include mobile calls nationally?
Most I call use mobile phones not landline so it was an advantage to
get mobile calls included in package.
Plus I wanted the 1000 gig data and the Telstra video (which does not
come off my data count/use).

I have 1000 gig data plus all local national and mobiles plus
Telstra TV for $99 a month. My connect speed is 12 Mbs.
Does that sound reasonable?

Nope, I will have unlimited data, no included calls, for $60
I should get a connect speed of around 80Mbs, maybe higher.

Would like to see what speed you do end up with.

So will I.

Basically all one is getting is a working ASDL connection

I already have that, 8/1

as your copperwire is nearer house.

VDSL2 is very different to ADSL2+

I meant ADSL2+ should be the same as FttN
depending on copper wire to house connection.


Nope, VDSL2 is completely different to ADSL2+
ADSL2+ only goes to 2.2MHz on the copper,
VDSL2 goes to 30MHz.

Quote:
I think I'm supposed to be on
50Mbs but only getting half that.


You likely have quite a long way between your house and the pillar.

How did you decide which pillar you are connected to ?
It can be different to the closest one, particularly if the
you are between the pillar and the exchange.

You can see which pillar you are on using
https://nationalmap.gov.au/#share=s-rmpw5abWbMHqO7gLqIzQhy9dC6p
That is one fucking weird web page. It crashes all of firefox, waterfox and
pale
moon. Weird on chrome. Surprisingly enough works fine on IE11 but whines
about not being able to run in 3D mode and runs in 2D mode.

You can enter your address in the search box and it auto fills in the
address,
but clicking on that autofilled address does nothing. You have to manually
drag the map to your location and zoom in to your place. Then you click
on the box that surrounds your place to see the DA number. That number
is painted on your pillar cover.

Ignore what it has to say about FTTN, mine is completely wrong and
wildly out of date. Its essentially just a map of where the DAs are.
DA is distribution area, what street cables come off what pillars.
The pillar is usually close to one corner of the DA in the direction
of the exchange, but not always and isnt marked on that map.
Easy to find by driving around the streets in the DA tho or using
Google Street view to do that.

If you can't make it work, email me you street address and I'll do
it for you. The email address is valid. It looks munged but isnt.

https://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/map?address=
gives you the ADA of your node and that number is on
the front door of your node engraved into a plastic label.

What did you do about the wiring in your house ?

VDSL2 is very sensitive to the house wiring and you can see
your speeds halved by radial wiring of phone extensions.
Ideally you should plug the incoming phone line directly
into your modem/router and not have any extensions for
the best internet speed. That effect is due to the spurs
to the phone extensions resonating at the much higher
frequencys used by VDSL2 and producing nulls.

In theory you can get a complete printout of the full
detail of the cabling between your house and the
pillar but I'd still reading thru the whirlpool thread
on that and that is from a Jun-16 comment and may
be obsolete now.

Petzl
Guest

Wed Dec 28, 2016 8:30 am   



On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 02:59:55 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:


"Petzl" <petzlx_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
news:saa46c1k7qb1fmekalvhrmfoc9etarl1iv_at_4ax.com...
On Tue, 27 Dec 2016 19:28:44 +1100, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com> wrote:

I have just signed up for timed non local calls,
because I call using voip which is untimed.

Does that include mobile calls nationally?
Most I call use mobile phones not landline so it was an advantage to
get mobile calls included in package.
Plus I wanted the 1000 gig data and the Telstra video (which does not
come off my data count/use).

I have 1000 gig data plus all local national and mobiles plus
Telstra TV for $99 a month. My connect speed is 12 Mbs.
Does that sound reasonable?

Nope, I will have unlimited data, no included calls, for $60
I should get a connect speed of around 80Mbs, maybe higher.

Would like to see what speed you do end up with.

So will I.

Basically all one is getting is a working ASDL connection

I already have that, 8/1

as your copperwire is nearer house.

VDSL2 is very different to ADSL2+


I meant ADSL2+ should be the same as FttN depending on copper wire to
house connection.

I think I'm supposed to be on 50Mbs but only getting half that.
--
Petzl

Petzl
Guest

Wed Dec 28, 2016 2:35 pm   



On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 18:13:10 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
Thanks for this Rod, Telstra have removed many pillars now I only see
one where there was none before the only number is on the cabinet
2CBT-08-18-FNO-001
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/50667687/DSCN0485.JPG

There should be a number on that pillar and you need to know
that to know if it's the pillar you are connected to now. The lettering
may be quite faded, but it will be there. Much bigger letters than
on the node cabinet.


NBN or whoever have even replaced the 2nd hand pillar they originally
used.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/50667687/NBNcabnet2.jpg
The "new" one is painted silver
The bill from Telstra only name the "plan" not to details there
"verbal's" said I would be on a down speed, promised was at 50Mb/s.
--
Petzl

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