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kreed
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Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:33 am
We have a WD 2TB green hard drive that has failed, it will not even be
recognised when connected to the pc. It will have to go back under
warranty, but is there any way of wiping the data from it first ? IE
degaussing wand, large magnet etc ?
Rheilly Phoull
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Guest
Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:41 am
On 11/22/2011 4:33 PM, kreed wrote:
Quote:
We have a WD 2TB green hard drive that has failed, it will not even be
recognised when connected to the pc. It will have to go back under
warranty, but is there any way of wiping the data from it first ? IE
degaussing wand, large magnet etc ?
recognised when connected to the pc. It will have to go back under
warranty, but is there any way of wiping the data from it first ? IE
degaussing wand, large magnet etc ?
I guess 4 or 5 turns of heavy cable wrapped around it and then connect
to a welder should corrupt a few areas :-)
Rheilly P
Trevor Wilson
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Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:49 pm
On 11/22/2011 7:33 PM, kreed wrote:
Quote:
We have a WD 2TB green hard drive that has failed, it will not even be
recognised when connected to the pc. It will have to go back under
warranty, but is there any way of wiping the data from it first ? IE
degaussing wand, large magnet etc ?
recognised when connected to the pc. It will have to go back under
warranty, but is there any way of wiping the data from it first ? IE
degaussing wand, large magnet etc ?
**None of that is likely to do all that much. HDs are pretty well
shielded and quite a bit of energy is required to alter the magnetic
domains from a large distance (2cm).
I know this from some experiments I did some time ago. Out of curiousity.
--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au
Phil Allison
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Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:11 am
"kreed"
Quote:
We have a WD 2TB green hard drive that has failed, it will not even be
recognised when connected to the pc. It will have to go back under
warranty, but is there any way of wiping the data from it first ? IE
degaussing wand, large magnet etc ?
recognised when connected to the pc. It will have to go back under
warranty, but is there any way of wiping the data from it first ? IE
degaussing wand, large magnet etc ?
** Doing any such thing will likely void the warranty.
Brute force, bulk erasure usually renders a hard drive unusable cos it
remove files put there by the manufacturer.
OTOH - I suspect you have a $129 external drive as sold by Officeworks and
others - so the chances are no-body will even look at it to see if it is
really faulty.
.... Phil
who where
Guest
Guest
Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:40 am
On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 00:33:42 -0800 (PST), kreed
<kenreed1999_at_gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
We have a WD 2TB green hard drive that has failed, it will not even be
recognised when connected to the pc. It will have to go back under
warranty, but is there any way of wiping the data from it first ? IE
degaussing wand, large magnet etc ?
recognised when connected to the pc. It will have to go back under
warranty, but is there any way of wiping the data from it first ? IE
degaussing wand, large magnet etc ?
Have you determined that you won't actually invalidate your warranty
claim by that action?
Peter
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Guest
Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:01 am
Trevor Wilson <trevor_at_SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote:
Quote:
On 11/22/2011 7:33 PM, kreed wrote:
We have a WD 2TB green hard drive that has failed, it will not even be
recognised when connected to the pc. It will have to go back under
warranty, but is there any way of wiping the data from it first ? IE
degaussing wand, large magnet etc ?
**None of that is likely to do all that much. HDs are pretty well
shielded and quite a bit of energy is required to alter the magnetic
domains from a large distance (2cm).
I know this from some experiments I did some time ago. Out of curiousity.
--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au
We have a WD 2TB green hard drive that has failed, it will not even be
recognised when connected to the pc. It will have to go back under
warranty, but is there any way of wiping the data from it first ? IE
degaussing wand, large magnet etc ?
**None of that is likely to do all that much. HDs are pretty well
shielded and quite a bit of energy is required to alter the magnetic
domains from a large distance (2cm).
I know this from some experiments I did some time ago. Out of curiousity.
--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au
No idea if it will work but about 20 seconds in the microwave might do the
job.
Just keep an eye open for any arching or melting as I imagine this would
not be a good look when returning the HD.
I would not want to give my data to anyone.
--
Phil Allison
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Guest
Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:03 am
"kreed"
"Phil Allison"
Quote:
We have a WD 2TB green hard drive that has failed, it will not even be
recognised when connected to the pc. It will have to go back under
warranty, but is there any way of wiping the data from it first ? IE
degaussing wand, large magnet etc ?
** Doing any such thing will likely void the warranty.
Brute force, bulk erasure usually renders a hard drive unusable cos it
remove files put there by the manufacturer.
OTOH - I suspect you have a $129 external drive as sold by Officeworks and
others - so the chances are no-body will even look at it to see if it is
really faulty.
It was a bare drive we bought, but I have bought officeworks ones, and
some of them are identical. Some of the Officeworks ones have a
caviar black drive in them actually.
You are probably right, no one is likely to bother scanning through
2tb of data, especially when they must get hundreds of them through
their service centre every week.
** HDs are non repairable and at $129 retail it becomes uneconomic to send
to a tech test out.
The transport and handling costs alone would do that.
.... Phil
Trevor Wilson
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Guest
Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:14 am
On 11/23/2011 12:01 PM, Peter wrote:
Quote:
Trevor Wilson<trevor_at_SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote:
On 11/22/2011 7:33 PM, kreed wrote:
We have a WD 2TB green hard drive that has failed, it will not even be
recognised when connected to the pc. It will have to go back under
warranty, but is there any way of wiping the data from it first ? IE
degaussing wand, large magnet etc ?
**None of that is likely to do all that much. HDs are pretty well
shielded and quite a bit of energy is required to alter the magnetic
domains from a large distance (2cm).
I know this from some experiments I did some time ago. Out of curiousity.
--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au
No idea if it will work but about 20 seconds in the microwave might do the
job.
On 11/22/2011 7:33 PM, kreed wrote:
We have a WD 2TB green hard drive that has failed, it will not even be
recognised when connected to the pc. It will have to go back under
warranty, but is there any way of wiping the data from it first ? IE
degaussing wand, large magnet etc ?
**None of that is likely to do all that much. HDs are pretty well
shielded and quite a bit of energy is required to alter the magnetic
domains from a large distance (2cm).
I know this from some experiments I did some time ago. Out of curiousity.
--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au
No idea if it will work but about 20 seconds in the microwave might do the
job.
**That, of course, would not only be insane, but ineffective.
Quote:
Just keep an eye open for any arching or melting as I imagine this would
not be a good look when returning the HD.
not be a good look when returning the HD.
**The damage will likely occur inside the magnetron.
Quote:
I would not want to give my data to anyone.
**Fair enough. Don't use clound computing.
--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au
kreed
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Guest
Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:36 am
On Nov 23, 10:11 am, "Phil Allison" <phi...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
Quote:
"kreed"
We have a WD 2TB green hard drive that has failed, it will not even be
recognised when connected to the pc. It will have to go back under
warranty, but is there any way of wiping the data from it first ? IE
degaussing wand, large magnet etc ?
** Doing any such thing will likely void the warranty.
Brute force, bulk erasure usually renders a hard drive unusable cos it
remove files put there by the manufacturer.
OTOH - I suspect you have a $129 external drive as sold by Officeworks and
others - so the chances are no-body will even look at it to see if it is
really faulty.
... Phil
We have a WD 2TB green hard drive that has failed, it will not even be
recognised when connected to the pc. It will have to go back under
warranty, but is there any way of wiping the data from it first ? IE
degaussing wand, large magnet etc ?
** Doing any such thing will likely void the warranty.
Brute force, bulk erasure usually renders a hard drive unusable cos it
remove files put there by the manufacturer.
OTOH - I suspect you have a $129 external drive as sold by Officeworks and
others - so the chances are no-body will even look at it to see if it is
really faulty.
... Phil
It was a bare drive we bought, but I have bought officeworks ones, and
some of them are identical. Some of the Officeworks ones have a
caviar black drive in them actually.
You are probably right, no one is likely to bother scanning through
2tb of data, especially when they must get hundreds of them through
their service centre every week.
kreed
Guest
Guest
Wed Nov 23, 2011 3:31 am
On Nov 23, 11:01 am, Peter <some...@microsoft.com> wrote:
Quote:
Trevor Wilson <tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote:
On 11/22/2011 7:33 PM, kreed wrote:
We have a WD 2TB green hard drive that has failed, it will not even be
recognised when connected to the pc. It will have to go back under
warranty, but is there any way of wiping the data from it first ? IE
degaussing wand, large magnet etc ?
**None of that is likely to do all that much. HDs are pretty well
shielded and quite a bit of energy is required to alter the magnetic
domains from a large distance (2cm).
I know this from some experiments I did some time ago. Out of curiousity.
--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au
No idea if it will work but about 20 seconds in the microwave might do the
job.
Just keep an eye open for any arching or melting as I imagine this would
not be a good look when returning the HD.
I would not want to give my data to anyone.
--
On 11/22/2011 7:33 PM, kreed wrote:
We have a WD 2TB green hard drive that has failed, it will not even be
recognised when connected to the pc. It will have to go back under
warranty, but is there any way of wiping the data from it first ? IE
degaussing wand, large magnet etc ?
**None of that is likely to do all that much. HDs are pretty well
shielded and quite a bit of energy is required to alter the magnetic
domains from a large distance (2cm).
I know this from some experiments I did some time ago. Out of curiousity.
--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au
No idea if it will work but about 20 seconds in the microwave might do the
job.
Just keep an eye open for any arching or melting as I imagine this would
not be a good look when returning the HD.
I would not want to give my data to anyone.
--
being metal, I doubt that any of the microwave radiation would make it
to the platters.
terryc
Guest
Guest
Wed Nov 23, 2011 4:28 am
Peter wrote:
Quote:
No idea if it will work but about 20 seconds in the microwave might do the
job.
job.
Useless and invalidate any warranty claim (if any damage detectable)
terryc
Guest
Guest
Wed Nov 23, 2011 4:29 am
Phil Allison wrote:
Quote:
** Doing any such thing will likely void the warranty.
Brute force, bulk erasure usually renders a hard drive unusable cos it
remove files put there by the manufacturer.
Brute force, bulk erasure usually renders a hard drive unusable cos it
remove files put there by the manufacturer.
what files?
Phil Allison
Guest
Guest
Wed Nov 23, 2011 5:18 am
"terryc"
Quote:
Phil Allison wrote:
** Doing any such thing will likely void the warranty.
Brute force, bulk erasure usually renders a hard drive unusable cos it
remove files put there by the manufacturer.
what files?
** Doing any such thing will likely void the warranty.
Brute force, bulk erasure usually renders a hard drive unusable cos it
remove files put there by the manufacturer.
what files?
** FFS you stinking arsehole - write a proper question !!!!!
You think there are no files at all ??
You just wanna know what they are called ??
You never heard of "low level formatting" ??
FOAD cunt head.
keithr
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Guest
Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:33 am
On 23/11/2011 3:18 PM, Phil Allison wrote:
Quote:
You think there are no files at all ??
You just wanna know what they are called ??
You never heard of "low level formatting" ??
You just wanna know what they are called ??
You never heard of "low level formatting" ??
The LLF contains servo information and record marks, but they are not
files. There are manufacturers files on the disk but they are not the
low level format.
David Eather
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Guest
Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:20 pm
On 22/11/2011 6:33 PM, kreed wrote:
Quote:
We have a WD 2TB green hard drive that has failed, it will not even be
recognised when connected to the pc. It will have to go back under
warranty, but is there any way of wiping the data from it first ? IE
degaussing wand, large magnet etc ?
recognised when connected to the pc. It will have to go back under
warranty, but is there any way of wiping the data from it first ? IE
degaussing wand, large magnet etc ?
Dick Smith $99
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