DSP confusion. Possibly irresolvable.

Lostgallifreyan
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Fri Jun 04, 2010 11:11 pm

Can anyone tell me if a Motorola XC56361 (56361, Google will NOT give results
for its full name, hell knows why) the same as a Motorola XC143410GC?

I'm asking because Echoaudio Layla 24/96 PCI boards are said by one of Echo's
own staff to use the XC56361, and the ALSA mailing list has archived pages
that support this, yet I have THREE actual Layla 24/96 PCI cards that all
have the XC143410GC on each one, and a picture found on Google Images also
shows one. I need to get clarity on this because none of my boards work on a
Via EPIA MII 12000 mainboard (no firmware load from DSP on PCI card), and
this apparently different IC might be something to do with that.

And has anyone got a Layla 24/96 PCI card (or ANY Layla 24 bit card) that has
a definite XC56301, specifically marked as such? If so, please can I see a
picture? (I can't find any pictures of an XC56361 so I don't have any way to
be sure it exists as a separate entity from an XC143410GC).

Lostgallifreyan
Guest

Fri Jun 04, 2010 11:15 pm

Lostgallifreyan <no-one_at_nowhere.net> wrote in
news:Xns9D8DEBFA0CA03zoodlewurdle_at_216.196.109.145:

Quote:

hat has
a definite XC56301

Meant XC56361
(56301 type was on older 20 bit systems, mostly.)

JosephKK
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Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:53 am

On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 17:11:59 -0500, Lostgallifreyan <no-one_at_nowhere.net>
wrote:

Quote:

Can anyone tell me if a Motorola XC56361 (56361, Google will NOT give results
for its full name, hell knows why) the same as a Motorola XC143410GC?

I'm asking because Echoaudio Layla 24/96 PCI boards are said by one of Echo's
own staff to use the XC56361, and the ALSA mailing list has archived pages
that support this, yet I have THREE actual Layla 24/96 PCI cards that all
have the XC143410GC on each one, and a picture found on Google Images also
shows one. I need to get clarity on this because none of my boards work on a
Via EPIA MII 12000 mainboard (no firmware load from DSP on PCI card), and
this apparently different IC might be something to do with that.

And has anyone got a Layla 24/96 PCI card (or ANY Layla 24 bit card) that has
a definite XC56301, specifically marked as such? If so, please can I see a
picture? (I can't find any pictures of an XC56361 so I don't have any way to
be sure it exists as a separate entity from an XC143410GC).

56301 datasheets here:

http://search.datasheetcatalog.net/key/56301

Which is a SHARC DSP part number

XC143410GC datasheet found here:

http://www.freescale.com/webapp/search/MainSERP.jsp?SelectedAsset=Orderable%20Parts#breadcrumb_anchor

Which is a custom modem 24-bit DSP. Discontinued in 2000.
Doesn't sound the same to me.

Lostgallifreyan
Guest

Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:37 pm

"JosephKK"<quiettechblue_at_yahoo.com> wrote in
news:2fti161bvsc7ihuecbeen4u1pmgl0hqpb8_at_4ax.com:

Quote:

On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 17:11:59 -0500, Lostgallifreyan <no-one_at_nowhere.net
wrote:

Can anyone tell me if a Motorola XC56361 (56361, Google will NOT give
results
for its full name, hell knows why) the same as a Motorola XC143410GC?

I'm asking because Echoaudio Layla 24/96 PCI boards are said by one of
Echo's
own staff to use the XC56361, and the ALSA mailing list has archived
pages
that support this, yet I have THREE actual Layla 24/96 PCI cards that
all
have the XC143410GC on each one, and a picture found on Google Images
also
shows one. I need to get clarity on this because none of my boards work
on a
Via EPIA MII 12000 mainboard (no firmware load from DSP on PCI card),
and
this apparently different IC might be something to do with that.

And has anyone got a Layla 24/96 PCI card (or ANY Layla 24 bit card)
that has
a definite XC56301, specifically marked as such? If so, please can I see
a
picture? (I can't find any pictures of an XC56361 so I don't have any
way to
be sure it exists as a separate entity from an XC143410GC).

56301 datasheets here:

http://search.datasheetcatalog.net/key/56301

Which is a SHARC DSP part number

XC143410GC datasheet found here:

http://www.freescale.com/webapp/search/MainSERP.jsp?SelectedAsset=Orderab
le%20Parts#breadcrumb_anchor

Which is a custom modem 24-bit DSP. Discontinued in 2000.
Doesn't sound the same to me.

Thanks. Not to me either. I think all this will go way beyond me, and I am
never entirely sure that the advice I get from Echo is consistent either, so
what works, works. All the more reason to stay with W98 and the older
hardware I use. What use is 'advance' I cannot use? Smile

I'd be forever
spending time, money and effort to stay in the same place, like running up
the down escalator.

Those data sheets will help me understand a bit though. Until now all I saw
was outdated parts-brokers promises on the web. Even directly searching the
Freescale site hadn't got results, I'd assumed they just binned anything they
discontinued.

Lostgallifreyan
Guest

Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:50 pm

Lostgallifreyan <no-one_at_nowhere.net> wrote in
news:Xns9D9A8074571B4zoodlewurdle_at_216.196.109.145:

Quote:

Those data sheets will help me understand a bit though. Until now all I
saw was outdated parts-brokers promises on the web. Even directly
searching the Freescale site hadn't got results, I'd assumed they just
binned anything they discontinued.

Still doesn't. Smile

But I agree, the little they do tell suggests a very
different IC.