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Nunya
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Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:31 am
On Sep 1, 1:57 pm, John Larkin
<jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 16:41:12 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terr...@earthlink.net> wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2010 11:59:32 -0700 (PDT), Nunya ?jack_sheph...@cox.net?
wrote:
?On Aug 14, 3:56 pm, John Larkin
??jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com? wrote:
?? On 14 Aug 2010 18:54:36 GMT, John Doe ?j...@usenetlove.invalid? wrote:
??
??
??
?? ?John Larkin ?jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com? wrote:
??
?? ?? Nunya ?jack_shephard cox.net? wrote:
?? ??? John Larkin ?jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com? wrote:
??
?? ???? Explain to us how the phasing method of SSB generation works.
??
?? ???? Or explain constellation modulation.
??
?? ???? Or tell us what happens to a wideband FM signal as the channel
?? ???? bandwidth is squeezed down.
??
?? ??? You don't have the link budget for the answer.
??
?? ?? Just tell us what you are and quit pretending to be what you
?? ?? aren't. You don't know jack about communications theory.
??
?? ?? The only person you *might* be fooling is yourself.
??
?? ?Even what he pretends to be changes frequently with his
?? ?nym-shifting.
??
?? But he knows very little about electronics, certainly nothing about
?? comm theory. I think he's a math-phobic low-end tech with delusions..
??
?? John
?
?I work on the most advanced comm gear in the world, Johnny.
For certain values of "worked on." Like crating/uncrating maybe.
Picking up dropped hardware for the real workers...
Fetching coffee and sandwiches.
John
For myself. From one of the many snack trays left over after
the meetings with top execs and gov figures and mil personnel.
A typical day containing yet another meal I did not have to pay for.
It's the little thing, you know? (well.... *you* don't know... yer
too damn dumb)
You know nothing of how a large, multi-segmented contractor
operates.
You also know nothing about me or what I do.
So stop fooling yourself, Johnny.
Only nothing short of the best food to be had short of an
on-the-lot Hollywood craft service. And we throw parties too.
Hahaha... my stocks get to grow because I get free lunches
and dinners all the time. Looks like fetching coffee and
sandwiches for myself is pretty profitable.
I like to snack on Prosciutto paid for by my company owner
whenever I can.
I don't think I would even consider working for a twit like you.
What does your pathetic company do on a daily basis
for "the crew"?
Nunya
Guest
Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:31 am
On Sep 1, 1:41 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
Quote:
John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2010 11:59:32 -0700 (PDT), Nunya ?jack_sheph...@cox.net?
wrote:
?On Aug 14, 3:56 pm, John Larkin
??jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com? wrote:
?? On 14 Aug 2010 18:54:36 GMT, John Doe ?j...@usenetlove.invalid? wrote:
??
??
??
?? ?John Larkin ?jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com? wrote:
??
?? ?? Nunya ?jack_shephard cox.net? wrote:
?? ??? John Larkin ?jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com? wrote:
??
?? ???? Explain to us how the phasing method of SSB generation works.
??
?? ???? Or explain constellation modulation.
??
?? ???? Or tell us what happens to a wideband FM signal as the channel
?? ???? bandwidth is squeezed down.
??
?? ??? You don't have the link budget for the answer.
??
?? ?? Just tell us what you are and quit pretending to be what you
?? ?? aren't. You don't know jack about communications theory.
??
?? ?? The only person you *might* be fooling is yourself.
??
?? ?Even what he pretends to be changes frequently with his
?? ?nym-shifting.
??
?? But he knows very little about electronics, certainly nothing about
?? comm theory. I think he's a math-phobic low-end tech with delusions.
??
?? John
?
?I work on the most advanced comm gear in the world, Johnny.
For certain values of "worked on." Like crating/uncrating maybe.
Picking up dropped hardware for the real workers...
--
Politicians should only get paid if the budget is balanced, and there is
enough left over to pay them.
Perhaps the "real workers" where you are drop things.
We do not drop things. $50k GE inertial reference units (gyro) is
an 8 inch cube.
It comes in a box that has it surrounded on all sides by ten inch
dense foam cubes.
You are behind the curve, Johnny.
John Larkin
Guest
Thu Sep 02, 2010 3:38 am
On Wed, 1 Sep 2010 18:28:51 -0700 (PDT), Nunya <jack_shephard_at_cox.net>
wrote:
Quote:
On Sep 1, 1:57 pm, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 16:41:12 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terr...@earthlink.net> wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2010 11:59:32 -0700 (PDT), Nunya ?jack_sheph...@cox.net?
wrote:
?On Aug 14, 3:56 pm, John Larkin
??jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com? wrote:
?? On 14 Aug 2010 18:54:36 GMT, John Doe ?j...@usenetlove.invalid? wrote:
??
??
??
?? ?John Larkin ?jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com? wrote:
??
?? ?? Nunya ?jack_shephard cox.net? wrote:
?? ??? John Larkin ?jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com? wrote:
??
?? ???? Explain to us how the phasing method of SSB generation works.
??
?? ???? Or explain constellation modulation.
??
?? ???? Or tell us what happens to a wideband FM signal as the channel
?? ???? bandwidth is squeezed down.
??
?? ??? You don't have the link budget for the answer.
??
?? ?? Just tell us what you are and quit pretending to be what you
?? ?? aren't. You don't know jack about communications theory.
??
?? ?? The only person you *might* be fooling is yourself.
??
?? ?Even what he pretends to be changes frequently with his
?? ?nym-shifting.
??
?? But he knows very little about electronics, certainly nothing about
?? comm theory. I think he's a math-phobic low-end tech with delusions.
??
?? John
?
?I work on the most advanced comm gear in the world, Johnny.
For certain values of "worked on." Like crating/uncrating maybe.
Picking up dropped hardware for the real workers...
Fetching coffee and sandwiches.
John
For myself. From one of the many snack trays left over after
the meetings with top execs and gov figures and mil personnel.
A typical day containing yet another meal I did not have to pay for.
You eat off their dirty dishes? Yuk.
Quote:
It's the little thing, you know? (well.... *you* don't know... yer
too damn dumb)
You know nothing of how a large, multi-segmented contractor
operates.
No, I only work with small fry like Lockheed and P&W and Raytheon and
BAE and GE and Agilent.
Quote:
You also know nothing about me or what I do.
I know what you don't do: design electronics.
Quote:
So stop fooling yourself, Johnny.
Only nothing short of the best food to be had short of an
on-the-lot Hollywood craft service. And we throw parties too.
Hahaha... my stocks get to grow because I get free lunches
and dinners all the time. Looks like fetching coffee and
sandwiches for myself is pretty profitable.
I like to snack on Prosciutto paid for by my company owner
whenever I can.
I don't think I would even consider working for a twit like you.
Hey, no problem. We already have janitorial services.
Quote:
What does your pathetic company do on a daily basis
for "the crew"?
Health care, 401K, bonuses, vacations, sick leave, what-the-hell
leave, free indoor parking, transit vouchers, free UPS and stamps,
full kitchen with free goodies, chocolate, steady employment, all the
electronics parts and office supplies you can steal, free lunch if you
invite me along, bail bond service. And all employees are allowed to
address The President by his first name.
John
Steve
Guest
Thu Sep 02, 2010 3:44 am
"Bryan Scholtes" <bryanscholtes_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
news:9e6ed360-09e0-43f7-9bc4-9e5223deb242_at_l20g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
No, they are just a bit shy on common sense, while they try to re-invent
the
wheel, without know how it works, or why it works that way *in the real
world*. Just because the theory looks good on paper, doesn't mean it will
actually work.
Common sense...doesn't exist. It is what you believe others should
know, based on your years of experience. Its a myth. Nobody learns
anything without asking questions and doing stuff, and that includes
everybody here.
Common sense tells you that if you hit your hand with a hammer, its going to
hurt, or if you stick a fork in an electrical outlet, its going to knock the
crap out of them. We have a lot of Darwin Award nominees that come in here
that haven't figured that out yet.
Quote:
What is an EE?
Electrical Engineer
Quote:
I cant help but feel sorry for people who are territorial about their
profession. There is nothing an HVAC tech can do that I couldn't do
without the proper knowledge and equipment. You've admitted it
yourself: it's a series of calculations and some book knowledge. It's
basic mechanical engineering with maybe a touch of fluid dynamics. And
there are those who insult people who haven't learned it yet and are
stupid enough to wonder about it.
The ones who get insulted are the ones who won't listen to good advice and
council, and get nasty because they get told what they don't want to hear.
We get a lot of that in here because the folks asking the questions are
trying to do things that are inherently dangerous, without the proper tools,
and will put themselves, their familys, as well as their home at risk.
Quote:
The only difference between home electrical and home HVAC, is that
there aren't a bunch of DIY books on the subject. And someday that
will change. Just like with all the other trades, people will hire a
pro only when the job is too much to bite off. And they'll have the
knowledge to properly tackle the jobs safely. No longer will we have
to suffer $75 service calls just to get browbeaten.
They can't print the books fast enough to keep up with new technologies. $75
only gets a tech there, and basic diagnosis. Repairs are extra.
Unfortunately, you can bring your broken air conditioner to our shop, so we
have to bring our shop to you in the form of a service truck.
Quote:
For those who helped me, thanks! You've confirmed that my project is
best left untackled. And I will get a pro to help balance the system
before I finish the basement.
For those with disdain for the DIY'er... You might be better served by
specializing in fixing amateur jobs. Because all your secret knowledge
is being gradually pried open. There will be a day when people won't
have to take abuse from guys because they happen to bend sheet metal
and run calculations for a living.
Its more than the calculations, the technologies are changing very rapidly
indeed. To a point that there are only a handfull of techs are trained on
them. 2 of the systems I worked on today have serial controlled, variable
frequency, inverter drive heat pumps and modulating gas furnaces..... and
these are residential systems. You can now add "electronics tech", and
"computer tech" to the long list of vocations that are encompassed by the
HVAC trade.
m II
Guest
Thu Sep 02, 2010 3:58 am
John Larkin wrote:
Quote:
Health care, 401K, bonuses, vacations, sick leave, what-the-hell
leave, free indoor parking, transit vouchers, free UPS and stamps,
full kitchen with free goodies, chocolate, steady employment, all the
electronics parts and office supplies you can steal, free lunch if you
invite me along, bail bond service. And all employees are allowed to
address The President by his first name.
Savings could be achieved in the Bail Bond Department if the Parts and
Office Supplies were watched a bit closer. Watching, I'm afraid, is
the only answer. It's against the law to ask prospective employees if
they are thieves or of low moral fibre.
mike
John Larkin
Guest
Thu Sep 02, 2010 5:08 am
On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 20:58:26 -0600, m II <c_at_in.the.hat> wrote:
Quote:
John Larkin wrote:
Health care, 401K, bonuses, vacations, sick leave, what-the-hell
leave, free indoor parking, transit vouchers, free UPS and stamps,
full kitchen with free goodies, chocolate, steady employment, all the
electronics parts and office supplies you can steal, free lunch if you
invite me along, bail bond service. And all employees are allowed to
address The President by his first name.
Savings could be achieved in the Bail Bond Department if the Parts and
Office Supplies were watched a bit closer. Watching, I'm afraid, is
the only answer. It's against the law to ask prospective employees if
they are thieves or of low moral fibre.
Oh, swiping modest amounts of stuff is fine. It's the spousal DUIs
that need the bail bond benefit.
John
Bryan Scholtes
Guest
Thu Sep 02, 2010 5:14 am
Quote:
No, they are just a bit shy on common sense, while they try to re-invent the
wheel, without know how it works, or why it works that way *in the real
world*. Just because the theory looks good on paper, doesn't mean it will
actually work.
Common sense...doesn't exist. It is what you believe others should
know, based on your years of experience. Its a myth. Nobody learns
anything without asking questions and doing stuff, and that includes
everybody here.
What is an EE?
I cant help but feel sorry for people who are territorial about their
profession. There is nothing an HVAC tech can do that I couldn't do
without the proper knowledge and equipment. You've admitted it
yourself: it's a series of calculations and some book knowledge. It's
basic mechanical engineering with maybe a touch of fluid dynamics. And
there are those who insult people who haven't learned it yet and are
stupid enough to wonder about it.
The only difference between home electrical and home HVAC, is that
there aren't a bunch of DIY books on the subject. And someday that
will change. Just like with all the other trades, people will hire a
pro only when the job is too much to bite off. And they'll have the
knowledge to properly tackle the jobs safely. No longer will we have
to suffer $75 service calls just to get browbeaten.
For those who helped me, thanks! You've confirmed that my project is
best left untackled. And I will get a pro to help balance the system
before I finish the basement.
For those with disdain for the DIY'er... You might be better served by
specializing in fixing amateur jobs. Because all your secret knowledge
is being gradually pried open. There will be a day when people won't
have to take abuse from guys because they happen to bend sheet metal
and run calculations for a living.
JW
Guest
Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:01 am
On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 13:57:25 -0700 John Larkin
<jjlarkin_at_highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in Message id:
<sgft7656uklltdrjl8plcqq7g3r5fcv4ct_at_4ax.com>:
Quote:
On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 16:41:12 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net> wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2010 11:59:32 -0700 (PDT), Nunya ?jack_shephard_at_cox.net?
wrote:
?On Aug 14, 3:56 pm, John Larkin
??jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com? wrote:
?? On 14 Aug 2010 18:54:36 GMT, John Doe ?j...@usenetlove.invalid? wrote:
??
??
??
?? ?John Larkin ?jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com? wrote:
??
?? ?? Nunya ?jack_shephard cox.net? wrote:
?? ??? John Larkin ?jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com? wrote:
??
?? ???? Explain to us how the phasing method of SSB generation works.
??
?? ???? Or explain constellation modulation.
??
?? ???? Or tell us what happens to a wideband FM signal as the channel
?? ???? bandwidth is squeezed down.
??
?? ??? You don't have the link budget for the answer.
??
?? ?? Just tell us what you are and quit pretending to be what you
?? ?? aren't. You don't know jack about communications theory.
??
?? ?? The only person you *might* be fooling is yourself.
??
?? ?Even what he pretends to be changes frequently with his
?? ?nym-shifting.
??
?? But he knows very little about electronics, certainly nothing about
?? comm theory. I think he's a math-phobic low-end tech with delusions.
??
?? John
?
?I work on the most advanced comm gear in the world, Johnny.
For certain values of "worked on." Like crating/uncrating maybe.
Picking up dropped hardware for the real workers...
Fetching coffee and sandwiches.
Sweeping and mopping the floors.
JW
Guest
Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:03 am
On Wed, 1 Sep 2010 18:28:51 -0700 (PDT) Nunya <jack_shephard_at_cox.net>
wrote in Message id:
<91016f90-e583-4ce9-a829-b784141002f4_at_y12g2000prb.googlegroups.com>:
Quote:
I like to snack on Prosciutto
ITYM snot-sausage.
HTH HAND.
osmium
Guest
Thu Sep 02, 2010 7:50 pm
"RichD" wrote:
Quote:
On Sep 2, Joe Snod <joe.s...@yahoo.com> wrote:
How many railroad cars of gravel would it take to fill the lower 9th
ward to sea level?
During job interviews, Microsoft used to present brain
twisters to candidates (maybe still do), looking for
ingenuity, resourcefulness, etc.
One item: "How would you move Mt. Fuji?"
You are an interviewee. How do you answer?
Find a computer and type the query
"how do you move mount fuji"
in as a Google search target.
Spehro Pefhany
Guest
Thu Sep 02, 2010 7:51 pm
On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 11:42:25 -0700 (PDT), RichD
<r_delaney2001_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Sep 2, Joe Snod <joe.s...@yahoo.com> wrote:
How many railroad cars of gravel would it take to fill the lower 9th
ward to sea level?
During job interviews, Microsoft used to present brain
twisters to candidates (maybe still do), looking for
ingenuity, resourcefulness, etc.
One item: "How would you move Mt. Fuji?"
You are an interviewee. How do you answer?
Jump up and down. The amount of required motion is not specified, so
any amount will do (perhaps a billionth of the diameter of an
electron).
Androcles
Guest
Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:13 pm
"RichD" <r_delaney2001_at_yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c88f2b14-ed0b-4248-a325-4819c822b857_at_l20g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
| On Sep 2, Joe Snod <joe.s...@yahoo.com> wrote:
| > How many railroad cars of gravel would it take to fill the lower 9th
| > ward to sea level?
|
| During job interviews, Microsoft used to present brain
| twisters to candidates (maybe still do), looking for
| ingenuity, resourcefulness, etc.
|
| One item: "How would you move Mt. Fuji?"
|
| You are an interviewee. How do you answer?
|
0> Move Mt. Fuji relative to what?
1> No need, Mt. Fuji is already moving by natural erosion.
2> Pick up a pebble that was part of Mt. Fuji.
3> One snowflake at a time.
4> If Mt. Fuji won't go to Mohammed, Mohammed must go to Mt. Fuji.
5> Take a photograph on Fujifilm.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fujifilm
Michael A. Terrell
Guest
Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:50 pm
RichD wrote:
Quote:
On Sep 2, Joe Snod <joe.s...@yahoo.com> wrote:
How many railroad cars of gravel would it take to fill the lower 9th
ward to sea level?
During job interviews, Microsoft used to present brain
twisters to candidates (maybe still do), looking for
ingenuity, resourcefulness, etc.
One item: "How would you move Mt. Fuji?"
You are an interviewee. How do you answer?
Take a photo, print it and lay it on the interviewer's desk.
--
Politicians should only get paid if the budget is balanced, and there is
enough left over to pay them.
Ben Pfaff
Guest
Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:06 pm
RichD <r_delaney2001_at_yahoo.com> writes:
Quote:
One item: "How would you move Mt. Fuji?"
You are an interviewee. How do you answer?
"I don't think that would approved by the environmental review
board."
--
Ben Pfaff
http://benpfaff.org
Pascal J. Bourguignon
Guest
Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:07 pm
RichD <r_delaney2001_at_yahoo.com> writes:
Quote:
On Sep 2, Joe Snod <joe.s...@yahoo.com> wrote:
How many railroad cars of gravel would it take to fill the lower 9th
ward to sea level?
During job interviews, Microsoft used to present brain
twisters to candidates (maybe still do), looking for
ingenuity, resourcefulness, etc.
One item: "How would you move Mt. Fuji?"
You are an interviewee. How do you answer?
Relative to what?
If it's relative to any thing smaller than it, I'd try to move the
smaller thing first. ;-)
Where to?
If we just want an horizontal translation, I would pierce parallel
tunnels underneath, and place wheeled supports, and then pierce other
parallel tunnels between the first tunnels, and place wheeled
supports, and so on until there remains no rock between the parallel
tunnels. Then the mount would be over my wheeled supports, and I
could drive it someplace where (of course, in the mean time a very
large road would have been build to the destination.
Now, Mt Fuji is 3776 m high, so the weight under the summit would be
about 5*3776 = 18880 tons. Perhaps we can't make wheeled supports
strong enough. In this case we could use a bath of mercury. We would
have to pierce only little holes, fill them with mercury, and pierce
other little holes in between, etc until the mount is detached and
flots on the mercury (eg. like the Eiffel Tower). Then we would just
have to make a mercury canal where to we want to move it, and call
Tokyo metro pushers to push the mount. (In case of countrary wind, we
could pump out the mercury and let the mount stand in the canal bed.)
If we want a vertical translation, I would go for the cut and slice
method, using big lasers, I would cut it in little cubes, and wrap
them up, and call UPS or Arianespace, depending on the destination.
--
__Pascal Bourguignon__
http://www.informatimago.com/
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