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~misfit~
Guest

Mon Jul 03, 2017 7:46 am   



I realise the odds aren't great but worth a try.

As I've mentioned in other threads I've been 'refurbishing' a 'Playmaster
Pro Series Three' kitset power amplifier. I have a photocpy of the
instructions that came with the (DSE) kitset (basically a copy of the
article in Feb 1994 EA). Also I found on the net where someone had uploaded
scans of the original article and grabbed that. However there are a few...
inconsistancies between the text and the diagrams / photographs. I know from
reading a few EA magazines and a few Silicon Chip magazines that there are
often postscripts to construction projects in magazines in the following
months, either in the Notes and Errata sections or as sidebars or even in
the 'Postbag' section/s.

Just a thought what with this group being aus.electronics and usenet being
mostly the domain of older people. I've heard mixed reviews of this
amplifier with some saying they sound great and others saying they sound
average. I even read a comment by one guy who'd heard several of them and
said one sounded amazing, some were average and one was nasty and that it
probably comes down to construction techniques. (The one I'm fixing up was
certainly under the 'bad construction technique' category.)

So with those varying comments I'm wondering if there might also have been
post-kit improvements discussed in the next two or three months that could
also account for the wide variations in how people think that they completed
amplifiers sound.

Just a thought and maybe worth a shot asking while I still have it mostly in
bits.

Cheers,
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)

~misfit~
Guest

Mon Jul 03, 2017 9:41 am   



Once upon a time on usenet ~misfit~ wrote:
Quote:
I realise the odds aren't great but worth a try.

As I've mentioned in other threads I've been 'refurbishing' a
'Playmaster Pro Series Three' kitset power amplifier. I have a
photocpy of the instructions that came with the (DSE) kitset
(basically a copy of the article in Feb 1994 EA). Also I found on the
net where someone had uploaded scans of the original article and
grabbed that. However there are a few... inconsistancies between the
text and the diagrams / photographs. I know from reading a few EA
magazines and a few Silicon Chip magazines that there are often
postscripts to construction projects in magazines in the following
months, either in the Notes and Errata sections or as sidebars or
even in the 'Postbag' section/s.
Just a thought what with this group being aus.electronics and usenet
being mostly the domain of older people. I've heard mixed reviews of
this amplifier with some saying they sound great and others saying
they sound average. I even read a comment by one guy who'd heard
several of them and said one sounded amazing, some were average and
one was nasty and that it probably comes down to construction
techniques. (The one I'm fixing up was certainly under the 'bad
construction technique' category.)
So with those varying comments I'm wondering if there might also have
been post-kit improvements discussed in the next two or three months
that could also account for the wide variations in how people think
that they completed amplifiers sound.

Just a thought and maybe worth a shot asking while I still have it
mostly in bits.


Here's a post on a forum I found a few months back when I first got the amp
and wondered why it sounded crappy;
http://www.stereo.net.au/forums/topic/42598-playmaster-pro-series-3-amp/
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)

Trevor Wilson
Guest

Tue Jul 04, 2017 11:48 am   



On 3/07/2017 3:46 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
Quote:
I realise the odds aren't great but worth a try.

As I've mentioned in other threads I've been 'refurbishing' a 'Playmaster
Pro Series Three' kitset power amplifier. I have a photocpy of the
instructions that came with the (DSE) kitset (basically a copy of the
article in Feb 1994 EA). Also I found on the net where someone had uploaded
scans of the original article and grabbed that. However there are a few...
inconsistancies between the text and the diagrams / photographs. I know from
reading a few EA magazines and a few Silicon Chip magazines that there are
often postscripts to construction projects in magazines in the following
months, either in the Notes and Errata sections or as sidebars or even in
the 'Postbag' section/s.

Just a thought what with this group being aus.electronics and usenet being
mostly the domain of older people. I've heard mixed reviews of this
amplifier with some saying they sound great and others saying they sound
average. I even read a comment by one guy who'd heard several of them and
said one sounded amazing, some were average and one was nasty and that it
probably comes down to construction techniques. (The one I'm fixing up was
certainly under the 'bad construction technique' category.)

So with those varying comments I'm wondering if there might also have been
post-kit improvements discussed in the next two or three months that could
also account for the wide variations in how people think that they completed
amplifiers sound.

Just a thought and maybe worth a shot asking while I still have it mostly in
bits.

Cheers,


**Not a high point in amplifier sound quality, but OK. Compare to a NAD
sometime and you'll understand why they sell so many amps.

--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

~misfit~
Guest

Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:32 am   



Once upon a time on usenet Trevor Wilson wrote:
Quote:
On 3/07/2017 3:46 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
I realise the odds aren't great but worth a try.

As I've mentioned in other threads I've been 'refurbishing' a
'Playmaster Pro Series Three' kitset power amplifier. I have a
photocpy of the instructions that came with the (DSE) kitset
(basically a copy of the article in Feb 1994 EA). Also I found on
the net where someone had uploaded scans of the original article and
grabbed that. However there are a few... inconsistancies between the
text and the diagrams / photographs. I know from reading a few EA
magazines and a few Silicon Chip magazines that there are often
postscripts to construction projects in magazines in the following
months, either in the Notes and Errata sections or as sidebars or
even in the 'Postbag' section/s. Just a thought what with this group
being aus.electronics and usenet
being mostly the domain of older people. I've heard mixed reviews of
this amplifier with some saying they sound great and others saying
they sound average. I even read a comment by one guy who'd heard
several of them and said one sounded amazing, some were average and
one was nasty and that it probably comes down to construction
techniques. (The one I'm fixing up was certainly under the 'bad
construction technique' category.) So with those varying comments I'm
wondering if there might also
have been post-kit improvements discussed in the next two or three
months that could also account for the wide variations in how people
think that they completed amplifiers sound.

Just a thought and maybe worth a shot asking while I still have it
mostly in bits.

Cheers,


**Not a high point in amplifier sound quality, but OK.


Likely much better than using a 14 year old mid-range Sony home theatre amp
or an older K135 / J50 based MOSFET amp (with unshielded EI trannys) which
are my other options. At least it's got over-sized toroidal trannies.

Quote:
Compare to a
NAD sometime and you'll understand why they sell so many amps.


As AvE would say you've got to piss with the cock you've got. At least I'll
get it sounding better than the guy who built the kit originally did.

Seems nobody has the relevant issues of EA on hand (or can't be arsed
checking for me). Sad
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)

Trevor Wilson
Guest

Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:08 am   



On 6/07/2017 1:32 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
Quote:
Once upon a time on usenet Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 3/07/2017 3:46 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
I realise the odds aren't great but worth a try.

As I've mentioned in other threads I've been 'refurbishing' a
'Playmaster Pro Series Three' kitset power amplifier. I have a
photocpy of the instructions that came with the (DSE) kitset
(basically a copy of the article in Feb 1994 EA). Also I found on
the net where someone had uploaded scans of the original article and
grabbed that. However there are a few... inconsistancies between the
text and the diagrams / photographs. I know from reading a few EA
magazines and a few Silicon Chip magazines that there are often
postscripts to construction projects in magazines in the following
months, either in the Notes and Errata sections or as sidebars or
even in the 'Postbag' section/s. Just a thought what with this group
being aus.electronics and usenet
being mostly the domain of older people. I've heard mixed reviews of
this amplifier with some saying they sound great and others saying
they sound average. I even read a comment by one guy who'd heard
several of them and said one sounded amazing, some were average and
one was nasty and that it probably comes down to construction
techniques. (The one I'm fixing up was certainly under the 'bad
construction technique' category.) So with those varying comments I'm
wondering if there might also
have been post-kit improvements discussed in the next two or three
months that could also account for the wide variations in how people
think that they completed amplifiers sound.

Just a thought and maybe worth a shot asking while I still have it
mostly in bits.

Cheers,


**Not a high point in amplifier sound quality, but OK.

Likely much better than using a 14 year old mid-range Sony home theatre amp
or an older K135 / J50 based MOSFET amp (with unshielded EI trannys) which
are my other options. At least it's got over-sized toroidal trannies.

Compare to a
NAD sometime and you'll understand why they sell so many amps.

As AvE would say you've got to piss with the cock you've got. At least I'll
get it sounding better than the guy who built the kit originally did.

Seems nobody has the relevant issues of EA on hand (or can't be arsed
checking for me). Sad


**Yep. I've got 'em, but it would take me a couple of hours to fish out
the boxes they're in. And yeah, I can't be arsed doing that. Have you
checked with Silicon Chip? They have all the old EA articles.

--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

~misfit~
Guest

Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:17 am   



Once upon a time on usenet Trevor Wilson wrote:
Quote:
On 6/07/2017 1:32 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
Once upon a time on usenet Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 3/07/2017 3:46 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
I realise the odds aren't great but worth a try.

As I've mentioned in other threads I've been 'refurbishing' a
'Playmaster Pro Series Three' kitset power amplifier. I have a
photocpy of the instructions that came with the (DSE) kitset
(basically a copy of the article in Feb 1994 EA). Also I found on
the net where someone had uploaded scans of the original article
and grabbed that. However there are a few... inconsistancies
between the text and the diagrams / photographs. I know from
reading a few EA magazines and a few Silicon Chip magazines that
there are often postscripts to construction projects in magazines
in the following months, either in the Notes and Errata sections
or as sidebars or even in the 'Postbag' section/s. Just a thought
what with this group being aus.electronics and usenet
being mostly the domain of older people. I've heard mixed reviews
of this amplifier with some saying they sound great and others
saying they sound average. I even read a comment by one guy who'd
heard several of them and said one sounded amazing, some were
average and one was nasty and that it probably comes down to
construction techniques. (The one I'm fixing up was certainly
under the 'bad construction technique' category.) So with those
varying comments I'm wondering if there might also
have been post-kit improvements discussed in the next two or three
months that could also account for the wide variations in how
people think that they completed amplifiers sound.

Just a thought and maybe worth a shot asking while I still have it
mostly in bits.

Cheers,


**Not a high point in amplifier sound quality, but OK.

Likely much better than using a 14 year old mid-range Sony home
theatre amp or an older K135 / J50 based MOSFET amp (with unshielded
EI trannys) which are my other options. At least it's got over-sized
toroidal trannies.
Compare to a
NAD sometime and you'll understand why they sell so many amps.

As AvE would say you've got to piss with the cock you've got. At
least I'll get it sounding better than the guy who built the kit
originally did. Seems nobody has the relevant issues of EA on hand (or
can't be arsed
checking for me). :(


**Yep. I've got 'em, but it would take me a couple of hours to fish
out the boxes they're in. And yeah, I can't be arsed doing that.


Fair enough. If they're not indexed it'd be quite a task.

Quote:
Have
you checked with Silicon Chip? They have all the old EA articles.


I let my Silicon Chip subscription lapse a while back as money got tighter.
Last time I checked the web site's not very forthcoming if you're not a
subscriber.

Yeah just checked again and they show a list of EA projects and I could
order a scanned copy of any article for $10 each but I have part 1 and 2 for
the Playmaster Pro 3 (Feb / Mar '94) and the DSE-supplied instructions. What
I'm interested in trying to find is if there are any later mentions in Notes
and Errata or Mailbag that could be helpful. Even if I could afford those
sections for, say the next four months they aren't on the list of available
articles.

Cheers,
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)

Rheilly Phoull
Guest

Fri Jul 07, 2017 2:22 am   



On 7/6/17 2:17 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
Quote:
Once upon a time on usenet Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 6/07/2017 1:32 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
Once upon a time on usenet Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 3/07/2017 3:46 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
I realise the odds aren't great but worth a try.

As I've mentioned in other threads I've been 'refurbishing' a
'Playmaster Pro Series Three' kitset power amplifier. I have a
photocpy of the instructions that came with the (DSE) kitset
(basically a copy of the article in Feb 1994 EA). Also I found on
the net where someone had uploaded scans of the original article
and grabbed that. However there are a few... inconsistancies
between the text and the diagrams / photographs. I know from
reading a few EA magazines and a few Silicon Chip magazines that
there are often postscripts to construction projects in magazines
in the following months, either in the Notes and Errata sections
or as sidebars or even in the 'Postbag' section/s. Just a thought
what with this group being aus.electronics and usenet
being mostly the domain of older people. I've heard mixed reviews
of this amplifier with some saying they sound great and others
saying they sound average. I even read a comment by one guy who'd
heard several of them and said one sounded amazing, some were
average and one was nasty and that it probably comes down to
construction techniques. (The one I'm fixing up was certainly
under the 'bad construction technique' category.) So with those
varying comments I'm wondering if there might also
have been post-kit improvements discussed in the next two or three
months that could also account for the wide variations in how
people think that they completed amplifiers sound.

Just a thought and maybe worth a shot asking while I still have it
mostly in bits.

Cheers,


**Not a high point in amplifier sound quality, but OK.

Likely much better than using a 14 year old mid-range Sony home
theatre amp or an older K135 / J50 based MOSFET amp (with unshielded
EI trannys) which are my other options. At least it's got over-sized
toroidal trannies.
Compare to a
NAD sometime and you'll understand why they sell so many amps.

As AvE would say you've got to piss with the cock you've got. At
least I'll get it sounding better than the guy who built the kit
originally did. Seems nobody has the relevant issues of EA on hand (or
can't be arsed
checking for me). :(


**Yep. I've got 'em, but it would take me a couple of hours to fish
out the boxes they're in. And yeah, I can't be arsed doing that.

Fair enough. If they're not indexed it'd be quite a task.

Have
you checked with Silicon Chip? They have all the old EA articles.

I let my Silicon Chip subscription lapse a while back as money got tighter.
Last time I checked the web site's not very forthcoming if you're not a
subscriber.

Yeah just checked again and they show a list of EA projects and I could
order a scanned copy of any article for $10 each but I have part 1 and 2 for
the Playmaster Pro 3 (Feb / Mar '94) and the DSE-supplied instructions. What
I'm interested in trying to find is if there are any later mentions in Notes
and Errata or Mailbag that could be helpful. Even if I could afford those
sections for, say the next four months they aren't on the list of available
articles.

Cheers,



As I recall they also used to have an index of errata as well

~misfit~
Guest

Fri Jul 07, 2017 4:02 am   



Once upon a time on usenet Rheilly Phoull wrote:
Quote:
On 7/6/17 2:17 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
Once upon a time on usenet Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 6/07/2017 1:32 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
Once upon a time on usenet Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 3/07/2017 3:46 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
I realise the odds aren't great but worth a try.

As I've mentioned in other threads I've been 'refurbishing' a
'Playmaster Pro Series Three' kitset power amplifier. I have a
photocpy of the instructions that came with the (DSE) kitset
(basically a copy of the article in Feb 1994 EA). Also I found on
the net where someone had uploaded scans of the original article
and grabbed that. However there are a few... inconsistancies
between the text and the diagrams / photographs. I know from
reading a few EA magazines and a few Silicon Chip magazines that
there are often postscripts to construction projects in magazines
in the following months, either in the Notes and Errata sections
or as sidebars or even in the 'Postbag' section/s. Just a thought
what with this group being aus.electronics and usenet
being mostly the domain of older people. I've heard mixed reviews
of this amplifier with some saying they sound great and others
saying they sound average. I even read a comment by one guy who'd
heard several of them and said one sounded amazing, some were
average and one was nasty and that it probably comes down to
construction techniques. (The one I'm fixing up was certainly
under the 'bad construction technique' category.) So with those
varying comments I'm wondering if there might also
have been post-kit improvements discussed in the next two or
three months that could also account for the wide variations in
how people think that they completed amplifiers sound.

Just a thought and maybe worth a shot asking while I still have
it mostly in bits.

Cheers,


**Not a high point in amplifier sound quality, but OK.

Likely much better than using a 14 year old mid-range Sony home
theatre amp or an older K135 / J50 based MOSFET amp (with
unshielded EI trannys) which are my other options. At least it's
got over-sized toroidal trannies.
Compare to a
NAD sometime and you'll understand why they sell so many amps.

As AvE would say you've got to piss with the cock you've got. At
least I'll get it sounding better than the guy who built the kit
originally did. Seems nobody has the relevant issues of EA on hand
(or can't be arsed
checking for me). :(


**Yep. I've got 'em, but it would take me a couple of hours to fish
out the boxes they're in. And yeah, I can't be arsed doing that.

Fair enough. If they're not indexed it'd be quite a task.

Have
you checked with Silicon Chip? They have all the old EA articles.

I let my Silicon Chip subscription lapse a while back as money got
tighter. Last time I checked the web site's not very forthcoming if
you're not a subscriber.

Yeah just checked again and they show a list of EA projects and I
could order a scanned copy of any article for $10 each but I have
part 1 and 2 for the Playmaster Pro 3 (Feb / Mar '94) and the
DSE-supplied instructions. What I'm interested in trying to find is
if there are any later mentions in Notes and Errata or Mailbag that
could be helpful. Even if I could afford those sections for, say the
next four months they aren't on the list of available articles.

As I recall they also used to have an index of errata as well


Hmmm, ok, couldn't find that for the issues in the 90s. I might have another
look later after I've done a few chores.

Thanks,
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)

F Murtz
Guest

Sat Jul 15, 2017 12:44 pm   



~misfit~ wrote:
Quote:
I realise the odds aren't great but worth a try.

As I've mentioned in other threads I've been 'refurbishing' a 'Playmaster
Pro Series Three' kitset power amplifier. I have a photocpy of the
instructions that came with the (DSE) kitset (basically a copy of the
article in Feb 1994 EA). Also I found on the net where someone had uploaded
scans of the original article and grabbed that. However there are a few...
inconsistancies between the text and the diagrams / photographs. I know from
reading a few EA magazines and a few Silicon Chip magazines that there are
often postscripts to construction projects in magazines in the following
months, either in the Notes and Errata sections or as sidebars or even in
the 'Postbag' section/s.

Just a thought what with this group being aus.electronics and usenet being
mostly the domain of older people. I've heard mixed reviews of this
amplifier with some saying they sound great and others saying they sound
average. I even read a comment by one guy who'd heard several of them and
said one sounded amazing, some were average and one was nasty and that it
probably comes down to construction techniques. (The one I'm fixing up was
certainly under the 'bad construction technique' category.)

So with those varying comments I'm wondering if there might also have been
post-kit improvements discussed in the next two or three months that could
also account for the wide variations in how people think that they completed
amplifiers sound.

Just a thought and maybe worth a shot asking while I still have it mostly in
bits.

Cheers,

If you lived in Sydney ,the State library of nsw keeps copies,just get a
library card and they will let you take copies,small charg.

F Murtz
Guest

Sat Jul 15, 2017 12:53 pm   



~misfit~ wrote:
Quote:
I realise the odds aren't great but worth a try.

As I've mentioned in other threads I've been 'refurbishing' a 'Playmaster
Pro Series Three' kitset power amplifier. I have a photocpy of the
instructions that came with the (DSE) kitset (basically a copy of the
article in Feb 1994 EA). Also I found on the net where someone had uploaded
scans of the original article and grabbed that. However there are a few...
inconsistancies between the text and the diagrams / photographs. I know from
reading a few EA magazines and a few Silicon Chip magazines that there are
often postscripts to construction projects in magazines in the following
months, either in the Notes and Errata sections or as sidebars or even in
the 'Postbag' section/s.

Just a thought what with this group being aus.electronics and usenet being
mostly the domain of older people. I've heard mixed reviews of this
amplifier with some saying they sound great and others saying they sound
average. I even read a comment by one guy who'd heard several of them and
said one sounded amazing, some were average and one was nasty and that it
probably comes down to construction techniques. (The one I'm fixing up was
certainly under the 'bad construction technique' category.)

So with those varying comments I'm wondering if there might also have been
post-kit improvements discussed in the next two or three months that could
also account for the wide variations in how people think that they completed
amplifiers sound.

Just a thought and maybe worth a shot asking while I still have it mostly in
bits.

Cheers,

If you lived in Sydney ,the State library of nsw keeps copies,just get a
library card and they will let you take copies,small charg.

~misfit~
Guest

Sat Jul 15, 2017 3:38 pm   



Once upon a time on usenet F Murtz wrote:
Quote:
~misfit~ wrote:
I realise the odds aren't great but worth a try.

As I've mentioned in other threads I've been 'refurbishing' a
'Playmaster Pro Series Three' kitset power amplifier. I have a
photocpy of the instructions that came with the (DSE) kitset
(basically a copy of the article in Feb 1994 EA). Also I found on
the net where someone had uploaded scans of the original article and
grabbed that. However there are a few... inconsistancies between the
text and the diagrams / photographs. I know from reading a few EA
magazines and a few Silicon Chip magazines that there are often
postscripts to construction projects in magazines in the following
months, either in the Notes and Errata sections or as sidebars or
even in the 'Postbag' section/s. Just a thought what with this group
being aus.electronics and usenet
being mostly the domain of older people. I've heard mixed reviews of
this amplifier with some saying they sound great and others saying
they sound average. I even read a comment by one guy who'd heard
several of them and said one sounded amazing, some were average and
one was nasty and that it probably comes down to construction
techniques. (The one I'm fixing up was certainly under the 'bad
construction technique' category.) So with those varying comments I'm
wondering if there might also
have been post-kit improvements discussed in the next two or three
months that could also account for the wide variations in how people
think that they completed amplifiers sound.

Just a thought and maybe worth a shot asking while I still have it
mostly in bits.

Cheers,

If you lived in Sydney ,the State library of nsw keeps copies,just
get a library card and they will let you take copies,small charg.


Thanks but I'm in NZ and a long way away from a major library.
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)

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