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David Lesher
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Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:22 pm   



I have need for 8-pin IDC DIP headers. In other words, a ribbon
cable IDC connector that plugs into a 8-pin IC socket.

Now, I can find IDC males that are 0.1 pin spacing, 0.1 row
spacing,for $0.50~$1.00 easily.

But when I need one in DIP spacing (0.1 x 0.3) they are either
$4.00+ <https://www.mouser.com/productdetail/571-746611-7>
OR the supplier wants $18 to ship one.
<https://store.sacelec.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=9451>

Anyone found a better source?

(Then there's the issue of one end of the cable having Pin 1 be
the #1 ribbon conductor, the other end wanting that conductor to
terminate on its pin 6.)


--
A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz_at_nrk.com
& no one will talk to a host that's close..........................
Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

bitrex
Guest

Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:47 pm   



On 12/29/2017 12:22 PM, David Lesher wrote:
Quote:
I have need for 8-pin IDC DIP headers. In other words, a ribbon
cable IDC connector that plugs into a 8-pin IC socket.

Now, I can find IDC males that are 0.1 pin spacing, 0.1 row
spacing,for $0.50~$1.00 easily.

But when I need one in DIP spacing (0.1 x 0.3) they are either
$4.00+ <https://www.mouser.com/productdetail/571-746611-7
OR the supplier wants $18 to ship one.
https://store.sacelec.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=9451

Anyone found a better source?

(Then there's the issue of one end of the cable having Pin 1 be
the #1 ribbon conductor, the other end wanting that conductor to
terminate on its pin 6.)


Could you whip up a bunch of little PCB adapters? Pads for the cheap IDC
males on one side, pads for some thick durable pins to slot into the DIP
sockets on the other (that also route the conductors appropriately)?

The pins on the one in the second link look like they were designed to
be soldered once permanently to a PCB. They won't survive too many
insertion-removal cycles. If they don't need to be cycled then the
question is why have the sockets there at all.

David Lesher
Guest

Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:07 pm   



bitrex <bitrex_at_de.lete.earthlink.net> writes:


Quote:
Could you whip up a bunch of little PCB adapters? Pads for the
cheap IDC males on one side, pads for some thick durable pins
to slot into the DIP sockets on the other (that also route the
conductors appropriately)?


Zero clearance on the DIP end. It's under something else.

Quote:
The pins on the one in the second link look like they were
designed to be soldered once permanently to a PCB. They won't
survive too many insertion-removal cycles. If they don't need
to be cycled then the question is why have the sockets there at
all.


The sockets on both ends, the 8-pin DIP & the 2x4 0.1 IDC are on
existing boards. I wish the 2x4 was male headers, and I may be
able to get a special order on them so it will be, but the DIP
is on the PLC itself.


--
A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz_at_nrk.com
& no one will talk to a host that's close..........................
Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

Andre Majorel
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Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:54 pm   



On 2017-12-29, David Lesher <wb8foz_at_panix.com> wrote:

Quote:
The sockets on both ends, the 8-pin DIP & the 2x4 0.1 IDC are on
existing boards. I wish the 2x4 was male headers, and I may be
able to get a special order on them so it will be, but the DIP
is on the PLC itself.


I suppose I should know what PLC stands for but I don't.
"Programmable logic controller" doesn't seem to make much sense
here. "Portland lesbian choir" has a nice ring to it but I don't
think this is it either...

--
Andrť Majorel http://www.teaser.fr/~amajorel/
"Mort aux vieux" -- un jeune
"Mort aux jeunes" -- un vieux

John Robertson
Guest

Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:59 pm   



On 2017/12/29 9:22 AM, David Lesher wrote:
Quote:
I have need for 8-pin IDC DIP headers. In other words, a ribbon
cable IDC connector that plugs into a 8-pin IC socket.

Now, I can find IDC males that are 0.1 pin spacing, 0.1 row
spacing,for $0.50~$1.00 easily.

But when I need one in DIP spacing (0.1 x 0.3) they are either
$4.00+ <https://www.mouser.com/productdetail/571-746611-7
OR the supplier wants $18 to ship one.
https://store.sacelec.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=9451

Anyone found a better source?

(Then there's the issue of one end of the cable having Pin 1 be
the #1 ribbon conductor, the other end wanting that conductor to
terminate on its pin 6.)



These guys?

http://www.cablesandconnectors.com/09800-09.HTM

John :-#)#

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bitrex
Guest

Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:04 pm   



On 12/29/2017 02:54 PM, Andre Majorel wrote:
Quote:
On 2017-12-29, David Lesher <wb8foz_at_panix.com> wrote:

The sockets on both ends, the 8-pin DIP & the 2x4 0.1 IDC are on
existing boards. I wish the 2x4 was male headers, and I may be
able to get a special order on them so it will be, but the DIP
is on the PLC itself.

I suppose I should know what PLC stands for but I don't.
"Programmable logic controller" doesn't seem to make much sense
here. "Portland lesbian choir" has a nice ring to it but I don't
think this is it either...


I think he means the first context but the "PLC" is a board comprised of
many components which make up the functionality of the PLC.

<http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-7xJZm9aSKRY/UF6vjXoTQWI/AAAAAAAAARc/XorR94gez-Q/s1600/internal_architecture_of_programmable_logic_controllers_PLC_concept.gif>

David Lesher
Guest

Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:20 pm   



bitrex <bitrex_at_de.lete.earthlink.net> writes:

Quote:
I suppose I should know what PLC stands for but I don't.
"Programmable logic controller" doesn't seem to make much sense
here. "Portland lesbian choir" has a nice ring to it but I don't
think this is it either...


I think he means the first context but the "PLC" is a board comprised of
many components which make up the functionality of the PLC.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-7xJZm9aSKRY/UF6vjXoTQWI/AAAAAAAAARc/XorR94gez-Q/s1600/internal_architecture_of_programmable_logic_controllers_PLC_concept.gif


Indeed: <https://dlidirect.com/products/diy-programmable-controller>
--
A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz_at_nrk.com
& no one will talk to a host that's close..........................
Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

David Lesher
Guest

Sat Dec 30, 2017 5:34 am   



John Robertson <spam_at_flippers.com> writes:

Quote:
Anyone found a better source?

(Then there's the issue of one end of the cable having Pin 1 be
the #1 ribbon conductor, the other end wanting that conductor to
terminate on its pin 6.)



These guys?

http://www.cablesandconnectors.com/09800-09.HTM

John :-#)#


Thanks; they are more reasonable. I bought a bunch to see how they look.

--
A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz_at_nrk.com
& no one will talk to a host that's close..........................
Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

John Robertson
Guest

Sat Dec 30, 2017 10:46 am   



On 2017/12/29 7:34 PM, David Lesher wrote:
Quote:
John Robertson <spam_at_flippers.com> writes:

Anyone found a better source?

(Then there's the issue of one end of the cable having Pin 1 be
the #1 ribbon conductor, the other end wanting that conductor to
terminate on its pin 6.)



These guys?

http://www.cablesandconnectors.com/09800-09.HTM

John :-#)#


Thanks; they are more reasonable. I bought a bunch to see how they look.


Let us know the results! I would like to find the 4 stepped row type of
PCB to IDC ribbon cable connector at a reasonable price. Used in 1980s
Williams pinball and video arcade games...

John :-#)#

--
(Please post followups or tech inquiries to the USENET newsgroup)
John's Jukes Ltd.
MOVED to #7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3
(604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
www.flippers.com
"Old pinballers never die, they just flip out."

Michael A Terrell
Guest

Sat Dec 30, 2017 11:38 am   



John Robertson wrote:
Quote:
On 2017/12/29 7:34 PM, David Lesher wrote:
John Robertson <spam_at_flippers.com> writes:

Anyone found a better source?

(Then there's the issue of one end of the cable having Pin 1 be
the #1 ribbon conductor, the other end wanting that conductor to
terminate on its pin 6.)



These guys?

http://www.cablesandconnectors.com/09800-09.HTM

John :-#)#


Thanks; they are more reasonable. I bought a bunch to see how they look.


Let us know the results! I would like to find the 4 stepped row type of
PCB to IDC ribbon cable connector at a reasonable price. Used in 1980s
Williams pinball and video arcade games...


How about a link to a clear photo of one?

John Robertson
Guest

Sat Dec 30, 2017 8:10 pm   



On 2017/12/30 1:38 AM, Michael A Terrell wrote:
Quote:
John Robertson wrote:
On 2017/12/29 7:34 PM, David Lesher wrote:
John Robertson <spam_at_flippers.com> writes:

Anyone found a better source?

(Then there's the issue of one end of the cable having Pin 1 be
the #1 ribbon conductor, the other end wanting that conductor to
terminate on its pin 6.)



These guys?

http://www.cablesandconnectors.com/09800-09.HTM

John :-#)#


Thanks; they are more reasonable. I bought a bunch to see how they look.


Let us know the results! I would like to find the 4 stepped row type of
PCB to IDC ribbon cable connector at a reasonable price. Used in 1980s
Williams pinball and video arcade games...


   How about a link to a clear photo of one?


Fair enough - photos of 40 pin ribbon connector to staggered row PCB mount:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/lq93garyj90gcb5/AAAkft1vBz28dL3kiqHzLElRa?dl=0

Tiny URL version:

https://tinyurl.com/40pin-ribbon

I haven't actually spent much time looking recently as they are needed
rarely, but hey, maybe someone has seen them around and I can get enough
to do the next twenty years of service...

Thanks,

John :-#)#
--
(Please post followups or tech inquiries to the USENET newsgroup)
John's Jukes Ltd.
MOVED to #7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3
(604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
www.flippers.com
"Old pinballers never die, they just flip out."

Michael A Terrell
Guest

Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:08 am   



John Robertson wrote:
Quote:

Michael A Terrell wrote:

John Robertson wrote:

Let us know the results! I would like to find the 4 stepped row
type of PCB to IDC ribbon cable connector at a reasonable price.
Used in 1980s Williams pinball and video arcade games...

How about a link to a clear photo of one?

Fair enough - photos of 40 pin ribbon connector to staggered row PCB
mount:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/lq93garyj90gcb5/AAAkft1vBz28dL3kiqHzLElRa?dl=0

Tiny URL version:

https://tinyurl.com/40pin-ribbon

I haven't actually spent much time looking recently as they are needed
rarely, but hey, maybe someone has seen them around and I can get
enough to do the next twenty years of service...


3M makes them. I see them in other equipment fairly often:

<https://www.alliedelec.com/3m-3418-0005pr/70431205/>

John Robertson
Guest

Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:14 am   



On 2017/12/30 6:08 PM, Michael A Terrell wrote:
Quote:
John Robertson wrote:

Michael A Terrell wrote:

John Robertson wrote:

Let us know the results! I would like to find the 4 stepped row
type of PCB to IDC ribbon cable connector at a reasonable price.
Used in 1980s Williams pinball and video arcade games...

    How about a link to a clear photo of one?

Fair enough - photos of 40 pin ribbon connector to staggered row PCB
mount:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/lq93garyj90gcb5/AAAkft1vBz28dL3kiqHzLElRa?dl=0


Tiny URL version:

https://tinyurl.com/40pin-ribbon

I haven't actually spent much time looking recently as they are needed
rarely, but hey, maybe someone has seen them around and I can get
enough to do the next twenty years of service...


   3M makes them. I see them in other equipment fairly often:

https://www.alliedelec.com/3m-3418-0005pr/70431205/


Thanks Mike!

John :-#)#

--
(Please post followups or tech inquiries to the USENET newsgroup)
John's Jukes Ltd.
MOVED to #7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3
(604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
www.flippers.com
"Old pinballers never die, they just flip out."

John Robertson
Guest

Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:17 am   



On 2017/12/30 6:08 PM, Michael A Terrell wrote:
Quote:
John Robertson wrote:

Michael A Terrell wrote:

John Robertson wrote:

Let us know the results! I would like to find the 4 stepped row
type of PCB to IDC ribbon cable connector at a reasonable price.
Used in 1980s Williams pinball and video arcade games...

    How about a link to a clear photo of one?

Fair enough - photos of 40 pin ribbon connector to staggered row PCB
mount:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/lq93garyj90gcb5/AAAkft1vBz28dL3kiqHzLElRa?dl=0


Tiny URL version:

https://tinyurl.com/40pin-ribbon

I haven't actually spent much time looking recently as they are needed
rarely, but hey, maybe someone has seen them around and I can get
enough to do the next twenty years of service...


   3M makes them. I see them in other equipment fairly often:

https://www.alliedelec.com/3m-3418-0005pr/70431205/


Correction, 3M MADE them. Discontinued in 2014. So I need to stock up!

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:DMCaU3YSyQwJ:https://www.ttiinc.com/content/dam/ttiinc/products/PCN/3M/3M-Obsolescence-DIP-2-and-4-Row-PCB-Connector-MDR-Edge-Connectors-PCN-120415.pdf+&cd=10&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca&client=firefox-b-ab

John :-#(#

--
(Please post followups or tech inquiries to the USENET newsgroup)
John's Jukes Ltd.
MOVED to #7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3
(604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
www.flippers.com
"Old pinballers never die, they just flip out."

Michael A Terrell
Guest

Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:24 pm   



John Robertson wrote:
Quote:
On 2017/12/30 6:08 PM, Michael A Terrell wrote:
John Robertson wrote:

Michael A Terrell wrote:

John Robertson wrote:

Let us know the results! I would like to find the 4 stepped row
type of PCB to IDC ribbon cable connector at a reasonable price.
Used in 1980s Williams pinball and video arcade games...

How about a link to a clear photo of one?

Fair enough - photos of 40 pin ribbon connector to staggered row PCB
mount:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/lq93garyj90gcb5/AAAkft1vBz28dL3kiqHzLElRa?dl=0


Tiny URL version:

https://tinyurl.com/40pin-ribbon

I haven't actually spent much time looking recently as they are needed
rarely, but hey, maybe someone has seen them around and I can get
enough to do the next twenty years of service...


3M makes them. I see them in other equipment fairly often:

https://www.alliedelec.com/3m-3418-0005pr/70431205/


Correction, 3M MADE them. Discontinued in 2014. So I need to stock up!

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:DMCaU3YSyQwJ:https://www.ttiinc.com/content/dam/ttiinc/products/PCN/3M/3M-Obsolescence-DIP-2-and-4-Row-PCB-Connector-MDR-Edge-Connectors-PCN-120415.pdf+&cd=10&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca&client=firefox-b-ab



Can you use used ones, with the ribbon cable still in them? I think
that I may have some on junk boards from other equipment that I can lift
with a solder pot. I have to find help to clean out the building where a
ton of scrap PC boards fill dozens of Banana boxes. I scrapped a load of
industrial printers that I think used the 40 pin version.

Check the usual surplus dealers, and Ebay now that you have the
proper name and a part number.

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