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Don Stauffer
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Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:05 pm   



RichD wrote:
Quote:
Is it possible to construct a hand held weapon
like those Star Trek toys?

We know that lasers can cut flesh, as surgical tools,
could you get enough intensity for something killer?
(with calibrations; tickle, stun, fibrillate, vaporize)

--
Rich


Not currently. I have worked on death rays (both lasers and particle
beams, including pulsed laser to make ionized path for particle beams).
So far the power supplies are enormous. We need higher density
electrical storage, or more efficient conversion of chemical to
electrical energy.

Almost feasible are chemical lasers. But the existing ones have too
much ancillary equipment, and use very toxic chemicals which require a
lot of safety gear to use.

There is an economy of scale here. The bigger you make them, the
smaller a percentage of total weight this ancillary equipment is.

Actually, there is probably more work going on on non-lethal weapons.
Guns work fine for killing people- military and police would like
weapons that incapacitate people with little risk of killing them.

PV
Guest

Tue Sep 01, 2009 4:17 pm   



Yousuf Khan <bbbl67_at_yahoo.com> writes:
Quote:
the hand, you'll need a small light power source. I think the best bet
for such a power source is the nuclear isomer battery. It's just
slightly behind nuclear fusion or fission in terms of power density per
kilogram, but much safer to hold in your hands. Smile

Debunked years ago. It's a story the CIA invented to freak out the
russians, and never really existed. CF also, "suitcase nuke". *
--
* PV Something like badgers, something like lizards, and something
like corkscrews.

alien8er
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Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:38 pm   



On Sep 1, 7:05 am, Don Stauffer <stauf...@usfamily.net> wrote:
Quote:
RichD wrote:
Is it possible to construct a hand held weapon
like those Star Trek toys?

We know that lasers can cut flesh, as surgical tools,
could you get enough intensity for something killer?
(with calibrations; tickle, stun, fibrillate, vaporize)

--
Rich

Not currently. I have worked on death rays (both lasers and particle
beams, including pulsed laser to make ionized path for particle beams).
  So far the power supplies are enormous.  We need higher density
electrical storage, or more efficient conversion of chemical to
electrical energy.

Almost feasible are chemical lasers.  But the existing ones have too
much ancillary equipment, and use very toxic chemicals which require a
lot of safety gear to use.

Hydrogen fluoride lasers (that 'burn' hydrogen and fluorine in a
resonator that enhances the IR generated) come to mind. But as you say
the chemical exhaust is, to put it mildly, hellishly toxic.

Can no-one figure out how to make a "hydrogen oxide" laser? Naively
all it should involve is an oxyhydrogen torch in a suitable resonator.
The exhaust would be (when cooled) perfectly safe water vapor.


Mark L. Fergerson

YKhan
Guest

Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:29 pm   



On Sep 1, 12:17 pm, pv+use...@pobox.com (PV) wrote:
Quote:
Yousuf Khan <bbb...@yahoo.com> writes:
the hand, you'll need a small light power source. I think the best bet
for such a power source is the nuclear isomer battery. It's just
slightly behind nuclear fusion or fission in terms of power density per
kilogram, but much safer to hold in your hands. :-)

Debunked years ago. It's a story the CIA invented to freak out the
russians, and never really existed. CF also, "suitcase nuke". *

Show me the link where it's been debunked? Nuclear isomer research is
still ongoing.

Yousuf Khan

John Nagle
Guest

Tue Sep 08, 2009 5:42 am   



PV wrote:
Quote:
CF also, "suitcase nuke". *

"Suitcase nukes" were built in the 1960s. See

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Atomic_Demolition_Munition
http://www.nuclearweaponarchive.org/Usa/Tests/Hardtack2.html

for pictures.

John Nagle

David
Guest

Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:59 pm   



In article
<2b2e93bf-4849-49fd-b9cf-3f8952e37887_at_u16g2000pru.googlegroups.com>,
RichD <r_delaney2001_at_yahoo.com> wrote:

Quote:
Is it possible to construct a hand held weapon
like those Star Trek toys?

We know that lasers can cut flesh, as surgical tools,
could you get enough intensity for something killer?
(with calibrations; tickle, stun, fibrillate, vaporize)

--
Rich

A much easier solution is to just give them a pair of scissors and tell
them to run with them

David

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