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John Larkin
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Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:42 pm   



http://tinyurl.com/6n895hg

Ground effect, can't get very far off the water.

John

Nico Coesel
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Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:15 pm   



John Larkin <jjlarkin_at_highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

Quote:

http://tinyurl.com/6n895hg

Ground effect, can't get very far off the water.

If you want to see a similar (smaller) plane in operation, watch this:
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6710328/BBC_James_Mays_Big_Ideas_1of3_Come_Fly_with_Me_XviD_AC3_

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P E Schoen
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Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:50 pm   



"John Larkin" wrote in message
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Quote:
http://tinyurl.com/6n895hg

Ground effect, can't get very far off the water.

Interesting. Apparently it actually gets fairly good fuel economy, and can
travel at speeds of about 350 MPH. I wonder how it compares to an ordinary
jet aircraft of similar capacity, or a cruise ship? It may be a viable
alternative to both, allowing transatlantic travel in about 8 hours, and
relatively crash-safe compared to falling into the sea from 30,000 feet. But
if it only flies 16 feet above the water, what happens when it encounters a
30 foot wave?

I like the "goose catcher" fan guard on one of the turbines. Maybe they
should have been installed on Captain Sully's aircraft.

Paul

Adrian Jansen
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Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:12 pm   



On 28/1/2012 5:42 AM, John Larkin wrote:
Quote:

http://tinyurl.com/6n895hg

Ground effect, can't get very far off the water.

John

Big hovercraft !


Here is the other end of the scale, this thing actually flies, not just
in ground effect. And you could build one yourself.

http://www.e-volo.com/Home.html

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Dave Platt
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Fri Jan 27, 2012 11:44 pm   



In article <jfv2m4$eo7$1_at_dont-email.me>, P E Schoen <paul_at_peschoen.com> wrote

Quote:
But
if it only flies 16 feet above the water, what happens when it encounters a
30 foot wave?

The pilot calls in an emergency: "Moio sudno na vozdushnoy podushke
polno ugrey".

(that's the best I can do for a Russian transcription of the classic
Pythonesque "My hovercraft is full of eels").

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Howard Eisenhauer
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Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:12 am   



On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 11:42:23 -0800, John Larkin
<jjlarkin_at_highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

Quote:

http://tinyurl.com/6n895hg

Ground effect, can't get very far off the water.

John

I want one of thes *BAD* :)

http://www.hovercraft.com/content/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=53

H.

Fred Bloggs
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Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:14 am   



On Jan 27, 2:42 pm, John Larkin
<jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
Quote:
http://tinyurl.com/6n895hg

Ground effect, can't get very far off the water.

John

It's not an aircraft, it is a hovercraft just happens to look like an
airplane, were built by a shipyard, that should be a clue.

John Larkin
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Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:16 am   



On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 15:50:04 -0500, "P E Schoen" <paul_at_peschoen.com>
wrote:

Quote:
"John Larkin" wrote in message
news:9dv5i7lhl3lrtk2q27rn4qg7k68j7606dc_at_4ax.com...

http://tinyurl.com/6n895hg

Ground effect, can't get very far off the water.

Interesting. Apparently it actually gets fairly good fuel economy, and can
travel at speeds of about 350 MPH. I wonder how it compares to an ordinary
jet aircraft of similar capacity, or a cruise ship? It may be a viable
alternative to both, allowing transatlantic travel in about 8 hours, and
relatively crash-safe compared to falling into the sea from 30,000 feet. But
if it only flies 16 feet above the water, what happens when it encounters a
30 foot wave?

Obviously, it flies 14 feet below the water.

John

Bitrex
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Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:17 am   



On 1/27/2012 2:42 PM, John Larkin wrote:
Quote:

http://tinyurl.com/6n895hg

Ground effect, can't get very far off the water.

John


The tail gun mount appears to be nearly identical to the one on the
Tu-16: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tu-16_rear.jpg

It probably used the same Nudelman 23mm cannon, which among its many
applications in military aircraft was also mounted on the Almaz series
space stations.

One has to wonder about what kind of threat a tail gun on a vehicle like
the Ekranoplan would actually be effective in addressing. It's fast
enough to outrun any surface threat, but at such a low altitude it
doesn't look like the cannons could actually elevate enough to
effectively counter aerial targets. It would have a gun-laying radar,
but probably not a high enough rate of fire to deal with anti-ship
missiles, either.

Better hope you fire your missiles before the enemy does!

Nico Coesel
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Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:33 am   



Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred_at_gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
On Jan 27, 2:42=A0pm, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/6n895hg

Ground effect, can't get very far off the water.

John

It's not an aircraft, it is a hovercraft just happens to look like an
airplane, were built by a shipyard, that should be a clue.

Its not a hovercraft. Its an airplane but it is not intended to fly
very high. Actually it offers a very good way to stay under the radar.
Only obstacles are a bit of a problem.

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indicates you are not using the right tools...
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Bill Sloman
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Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:41 am   



On Jan 27, 8:42 pm, John Larkin
<jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
Quote:
http://tinyurl.com/6n895hg

Ground effect, can't get very far off the water.

Looks a bit like the Spruce Goose, which didn't either.

http://www.theaviationzone.com/factsheets/hk1.asp

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

John Fields
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Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:44 am   



On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 15:50:04 -0500, "P E Schoen" <paul_at_peschoen.com>
wrote:

Quote:
"John Larkin" wrote in message
news:9dv5i7lhl3lrtk2q27rn4qg7k68j7606dc_at_4ax.com...

http://tinyurl.com/6n895hg

Ground effect, can't get very far off the water.

Interesting. Apparently it actually gets fairly good fuel economy, and can
travel at speeds of about 350 MPH. I wonder how it compares to an ordinary
jet aircraft of similar capacity, or a cruise ship? It may be a viable
alternative to both, allowing transatlantic travel in about 8 hours, and
relatively crash-safe compared to falling into the sea from 30,000 feet. But
if it only flies 16 feet above the water, what happens when it encounters a
30 foot wave?

---
At 350 MPH, aeronautical control surfaces are definitely in play so,
with terrain-following-radar dictating the timing, the craft merely
jumps over the obstacles.

--
JF

Jim Thompson
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Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:57 am   



On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 19:12:59 -0400, Howard Eisenhauer
<howarde_at_NOSPAMhfx.eastlink.ca> wrote:

Quote:
On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 11:42:23 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin_at_highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:


http://tinyurl.com/6n895hg

Ground effect, can't get very far off the water.

John

I want one of thes *BAD* :)

http://www.hovercraft.com/content/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=53

H.

I want a fully staffed Merlin Wink

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Sjouke Burry
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Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:23 am   



"P E Schoen" <paul_at_peschoen.com> wrote in
news:jfv2m4$eo7$1_at_dont-email.me:

Quote:
"John Larkin" wrote in message
news:9dv5i7lhl3lrtk2q27rn4qg7k68j7606dc_at_4ax.com...

http://tinyurl.com/6n895hg

Ground effect, can't get very far off the water.

Interesting. Apparently it actually gets fairly good fuel economy, and
can travel at speeds of about 350 MPH. I wonder how it compares to an
ordinary jet aircraft of similar capacity, or a cruise ship? It may be
a viable alternative to both, allowing transatlantic travel in about 8
hours, and relatively crash-safe compared to falling into the sea from
30,000 feet. But if it only flies 16 feet above the water, what
happens when it encounters a 30 foot wave?
cut


You have aircraft hamburger.

Winston
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Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:35 am   



Howard Eisenhauer wrote:
Quote:
On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 11:42:23 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin_at_highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:


http://tinyurl.com/6n895hg

Ground effect, can't get very far off the water.

John

I want one of thes *BAD* :)

http://www.hovercraft.com/content/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=53

That's the way I want to go out.

:)

--Winston

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