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rickman
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Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:34 am
On Nov 28, 4:55 pm, Giuseppe Marullo
<giuseppe.marullonos...@iname.com> wrote:
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How about "Altera USB Blaster eBay"?
Rick
Rick, many thanks but I googled it and nowhere it was able to program a
Xilinx part, hence the question.
Giuseppe Marullo
No, the Altera cable won't do Xilinx, but only because of software
support. The Xilinx devices require a Xilinx cable clone which is
also sold on eBay. I think I saw some for around $10 or so up to
about $50 for the ones they say are "exact" duplicates of the Xilinx
design.
Rick
Petter Gustad
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Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:34 am
rickman <gnuarm_at_gmail.com> writes:
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No, the Altera cable won't do Xilinx, but only because of software
I seem to remember that I've generated SVF files using Xilinx Impact
which I've played back using urjtag and an Altera USB Blaster
connected to a Xilinx FPGA.
Not a supported toolchain and no guarantee that it will work and not
damage your devices...
Also it's not possible to use Chipscope this way.
//Petter
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Petter Gustad
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Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:43 am
Bryan <bryan.fletcher_at_avnet.com> writes:
Quote:
Here is a $50 alternative that is supported by Xilinx. Support for
this cable is built into ISE 13.2 and later, and previous versions by
installing a plugin.
https://www.em.avnet.com/en-us/design/drc/Pages/Digilent-JTAG-HS1-Programming-Cable.aspx
In our testing at Avnet, we found this cable to be as fast or faster
than the Platform Cable USB-II. This is especially noticeable when
performing indirect Flash programming. You can order these cables
online or through your local Avnet/Silica office.
Does this contain the same logic as the JTAG SMT1?
http://digilentinc.com/Products/Detail.cfm?NavPath=2,395,923&Prod=JTAG-SMT1
I can use the Xilinx Platform Cable USB II with Impact (ISE 13.3), but
I can't get the Digilent JTAG SMT1 to work. I just get a "Cable
connection failed" error message.
Using lspci the Xilinx cable shows up as:
Bus 002 Device 036: ID 03fd:0008 Xilinx, Inc.
And the Digilent JTAG SMT1:
Bus 002 Device 060: ID 0403:6010 Future Technology Devices International, Ltd FT2232C Dual USB-UART/FIFO IC
The Xilinx cable in /proc/bus/usb/devices
< T: Bus=02 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=06 Cnt=02 Dev#= 59 Spd=480 MxCh= 0
< D: Ver= 2.00 Cls=00(>ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1
< P: Vendor=03fd ProdID=0008 Rev= 0.00
< S: Manufacturer=XILINX
< S: Product=XILINX
< C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 2 Atr=80 MxPwr=300mA
< I:* If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=(none)
< E: Ad=02(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 512 Ivl=0ms
< E: Ad=86(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 512 Ivl=0ms
The Digilent JTAG SMT1 in /proc/bus/usb/devices
< T: Bus=02 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=07 Cnt=02 Dev#= 60 Spd=480 MxCh= 0
< D: Ver= 2.00 Cls=00(>ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1
< P: Vendor=0403 ProdID=6010 Rev= 7.00
< S: Manufacturer=Digilent
< S: Product=Digilent Adept USB Device
< S: SerialNumber=210203299904
< C:* #Ifs= 2 Cfg#= 1 Atr=80 MxPwr= 94mA
< I:* If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=ff Driver=ftdi_sio
< E: Ad=81(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 512 Ivl=0ms
< E: Ad=02(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 512 Ivl=0ms
< I:* If#= 1 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=ff Driver=ftdi_sio
< E: Ad=83(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 512 Ivl=0ms
< E: Ad=04(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 512 Ivl=0ms
//Petter
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Steve B
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Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:22 am
On 11/29/2011 11:43 AM, Petter Gustad wrote:
Quote:
Bryan<bryan.fletcher_at_avnet.com> writes:
Here is a $50 alternative that is supported by Xilinx. Support for
this cable is built into ISE 13.2 and later, and previous versions by
installing a plugin.
https://www.em.avnet.com/en-us/design/drc/Pages/Digilent-JTAG-HS1-Programming-Cable.aspx
In our testing at Avnet, we found this cable to be as fast or faster
than the Platform Cable USB-II. This is especially noticeable when
performing indirect Flash programming. You can order these cables
online or through your local Avnet/Silica office.
Does this contain the same logic as the JTAG SMT1?
http://digilentinc.com/Products/Detail.cfm?NavPath=2,395,923&Prod=JTAG-SMT1
I can use the Xilinx Platform Cable USB II with Impact (ISE 13.3), but
I can't get the Digilent JTAG SMT1 to work. I just get a "Cable
connection failed" error message.
Using lspci the Xilinx cable shows up as:
Bus 002 Device 036: ID 03fd:0008 Xilinx, Inc.
And the Digilent JTAG SMT1:
Bus 002 Device 060: ID 0403:6010 Future Technology Devices International, Ltd FT2232C Dual USB-UART/FIFO IC
The Xilinx cable in /proc/bus/usb/devices
T: Bus=02 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=06 Cnt=02 Dev#= 59 Spd=480 MxCh= 0
D: Ver= 2.00 Cls=00(>ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1
P: Vendor=03fd ProdID=0008 Rev= 0.00
S: Manufacturer=XILINX
S: Product=XILINX
C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 2 Atr=80 MxPwr=300mA
I:* If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=(none)
E: Ad=02(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 512 Ivl=0ms
E: Ad=86(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 512 Ivl=0ms
The Digilent JTAG SMT1 in /proc/bus/usb/devices
T: Bus=02 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=07 Cnt=02 Dev#= 60 Spd=480 MxCh= 0
D: Ver= 2.00 Cls=00(>ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1
P: Vendor=0403 ProdID=6010 Rev= 7.00
S: Manufacturer=Digilent
S: Product=Digilent Adept USB Device
S: SerialNumber=210203299904
C:* #Ifs= 2 Cfg#= 1 Atr=80 MxPwr= 94mA
I:* If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=ff Driver=ftdi_sio
E: Ad=81(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 512 Ivl=0ms
E: Ad=02(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 512 Ivl=0ms
I:* If#= 1 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=ff Driver=ftdi_sio
E: Ad=83(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 512 Ivl=0ms
E: Ad=04(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 512 Ivl=0ms
//Petter
Those cables are not exactly equivalent to the Xilinx platform USB
(though Digilent makes one that is, for a bit of a higher price).
For the Digilent-specific ones, you need to install the Digilent Plugin
for Xilinx Tools, which they kindly offer for Linux as well as Windows:
http://digilentinc.com/Products/Detail.cfm?NavPath=2,66,768&Prod=DIGILENT-PLUGIN
Have you done this? If not, I guess that would explain why it doesn't
work with impact.
Steve
Sink0
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Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:40 pm
Quote:
I use Altera USB Blaster clone from eBay for ~10USD. Works perfectly:
drivers are exact the same as for original device, programming speed i
also
the same, but the best thing is that the clone is nearly 3-4 times smalle
and has mini-USB connector.
"Giuseppe Marullo" <giuseppe.marullonospam_at_iname.com> wrote in message
news:javm1e$nm0$1_at_speranza.aioe.org...
Actually the 10 USD USB Blaster sold at ebay are not 100% perfect copy. I
order to make a cheaper device they use a Cypress chip to emulate th
FTDI+CPLD of the USB Blaster.
For a perfect copy you probably going to pay 30USD
Here is an example
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Altera-FPGA-CPLD-USB-Blaster-programmer-JTAG-cable-/280506472755?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item414f7d1933#ht_3351wt_1163
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scrts
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Thu Dec 01, 2011 7:27 am
Quote:
Who cares if that cheaper one works 100% the same as original one?
Petter Gustad
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Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:14 pm
Steve B <sbattazzo_at_gmail.com> writes:
Quote:
Thank you Steve. I was not aware that you needed a plugin. I thought
it was a Xilinx compatible cable.
However, I can not get it to work. I've downloaded the tar file and
installed the so and xml file as shown in the documentation:
ls -1 $XILINX/lib/lin64/plugins/Digilent/libCseDigilent.* | cut -c27-
v13.3i/ISE/lib/lin64/plugins/Digilent/libCseDigilent.so
v13.3i/ISE/lib/lin64/plugins/Digilent/libCseDigilent.xml
Also I would like to do this in batch mode. But I can't get it to work
in batch either. I'm uncertain about the setCable -target syntax as I
can't find any documentation other than I've have to supply
target_parameters:
Quote:
setMode -bs
setCable -target digilent_plugin
addDevice -p 1 -file top-par.bit
....
INFO:iMPACT - Using CseAdapterBSDevice
....
Quote:
program -p 1 -verify
ERROR:iMPACT:1075 - setCable must be set before this operation.
Any idas?
Are there anywhere I can find more detailed documentation on the
plugin mode, e.g. documentation on the API as well as documentation on
the server mode?
Also is it possible to install the plugin somewhere else and point to
it using an environment variable or similar? In some environment one
does not have write access to the ISE installation.
//Petter
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Morten Leikvoll
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Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:08 pm
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Quote:
You should all be careful and buy one with proper antistatic protection on
the jtag wires. Ive blown quite a few of the Altera byteblaster clones.
SonnyAnd
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Thu Jan 19, 2012 3:36 pm
Quote:
@ Petter
I bought this Digilent HS1 cable end of December and it took also some tim
until I recognized their installation procedure.
Maybe following description could help you:
After you copied all the files as it is described in Xilinx plugi
documentation, you have to go into Impact -> "cable setup", you usuall
will get an error message. Now check the checkbox at "Cable plugin" an
write into the field "digilent_plugin". After you now hit ok, the Impac
software will access your JTGA-HS1 cable (which should be plugged into US
and some device connected to it).
On my first tries I did not really recognize that you have to write thi
"string" into Impact software as I thought after plugin was installed
Impact would recognize it itself. May it solves your question, too....
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Thomas Entner
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Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:01 am
On 1 Dez. 2011, 16:08, "Morten Leikvoll" <mleik...@yahoo.nospam>
wrote:
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"scrts" <hid...@email.com> wrote in message
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For a perfect copy you probably going to pay 30USD
Here is an example:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Altera-FPGA-CPLD-USB-Blaster-programmer-JTAG-...
Who cares if that cheaper one works 100% the same as original one?
You should all be careful and buy one with proper antistatic protection on
the jtag wires. Ive blown quite a few of the Altera byteblaster clones.
Especially for people in Europe, our EEBlaster (http://www.entner-
electronics.com/tl/index.php/eeblaster.html) is a good option. It has
some improvements over the original USB-Blaster and costs EUR 49,-.
Regards,
Thomas
www.entner-electronics.com
Thomas Entner
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Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:11 am
On 20 Jan., 01:01, Thomas Entner <thomas.entne...@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
On 1 Dez. 2011, 16:08, "Morten Leikvoll" <mleik...@yahoo.nospam
wrote:
"scrts" <hid...@email.com> wrote in message
news:jb76og$2t8$1_at_dont-email.me...
For a perfect copy you probably going to pay 30USD
Here is an example:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Altera-FPGA-CPLD-USB-Blaster-programmer-JTAG-...
Who cares if that cheaper one works 100% the same as original one?
You should all be careful and buy one with proper antistatic protection on
the jtag wires. Ive blown quite a few of the Altera byteblaster clones.
Especially for people in Europe, our EEBlaster (http://www.entner-
electronics.com/tl/index.php/eeblaster.html) is a good option. It has
some improvements over the original USB-Blaster and costs EUR 49,-.
Regards,
Thomas
www.entner-electronics.com
Here is the link again:
http://www.entner-electronics.com/tl/index.php/eeblaster.html
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