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Jan Panteltje
Guest

Fri Feb 05, 2010 2:03 pm   



CERN's black hole cannon not working right for a other 2 years.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/05/science/05collide.html?ref=science
Will run only at half power until 2012.
Not a much better search for the Higgs then the 7 years at 2 TeV that Fermilab already has.

LOL
What a joke.

Bill Sloman
Guest

Fri Feb 05, 2010 4:41 pm   



On Feb 5, 1:03 pm, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
CERN's black hole cannon not working right for a other 2 years.
 http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/05/science/05collide.html?ref=science
Will run only at half power until 2012.
Not a much better search for the Higgs then the 7 years at 2 TeV that Fermilab already has.

LOL
What a joke.

3.5 TeV for two years may not be much better than 2 TeV for seven
years, but it is still better than nothing, which is what the
theortical physicists had when the super-conducting magnet blew up

The joke is your claim that Large Hadron Collider isn't working right.
It is doing exactly what its operators want it to do, demonstrating
that all the sub-systems are doing what they are supposed to when
operating under a substantial proportion of the design load

It isn't doing what the theoritical phsycists would like it to do,
which is to start working at its design energy right now, but happily
the slow and cautious brigade have got their wish.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

Jan Panteltje
Guest

Fri Feb 05, 2010 4:42 pm   



On a sunny day (Fri, 5 Feb 2010 05:41:30 -0800 (PST)) it happened Bill Sloman
<bill.sloman_at_ieee.org> wrote in
<1bf0037f-80ee-4bf7-9fd3-924c7ecc8390_at_3g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>:

Quote:
On Feb 5, 1:03 pm, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
CERN's black hole cannon not working right for a other 2 years.
 http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/05/science/05collide.html?ref=science
Will run only at half power until 2012.
Not a much better search for the Higgs then the 7 years at 2 TeV that Fer=
milab already has.

LOL
What a joke.

3.5 TeV for two years may not be much better than 2 TeV for seven
years, but it is still better than nothing, which is what the
theortical physicists had when the super-conducting magnet blew up

The joke is your claim that Large Hadron Collider isn't working right.
It is doing exactly what its operators want it to do, demonstrating
that all the sub-systems are doing what they are supposed to when
operating under a substantial proportion of the design load

It isn't doing what the theoritical phsycists would like it to do,
which is to start working at its design energy right now, but happily
the slow and cautious brigade have got their wish.

Well if you designed a 100 W RMS amplifier, and it only delivered 50 W,
and was payed such a large amount of money for it, it would be called fraud.
Almost as much fraud as global heating.
A politcal social project to keep the brain dead scientist,
who never in all these years came closer to understanding
gravity, fusion, or a better weapon, busy.


Quote:
--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen



Okkim Atnarivik
Guest

Fri Feb 05, 2010 6:57 pm   



Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
: CERN's black hole cannon not working right for a other 2 years.

After their cryogenic system failed, and after the incident of
some bird having made its nest within the accelerator (causing
a short circuit or something) I started hearing this theory:
Discovery of the Higgs boson will turn out to facilitate time
travel, and now the unverse is protecting causality.
In other words, the accelerator will never work.

Regards,
Mikko

Jan Panteltje
Guest

Fri Feb 05, 2010 7:15 pm   



On a sunny day (Fri, 5 Feb 2010 17:57:49 +0200 (EET)) it happened Okkim
Atnarivik <Okkim.Atnarivik_at_twentyfour.fi.invalid> wrote in
<hkhf5t$5em$1_at_epityr.hut.fi>:

Quote:
Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
: CERN's black hole cannon not working right for a other 2 years.

After their cryogenic system failed, and after the incident of
some bird having made its nest within the accelerator (causing
a short circuit or something) I started hearing this theory:
Discovery of the Higgs boson will turn out to facilitate time
travel, and now the unverse is protecting causality.
In other words, the accelerator will never work.

Regards,
Mikko

Yes I have heard that theory too, from a Nobel winner at that IIRC.
Too many mathematicians and idiots in m yview.

Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
Guest

Fri Feb 05, 2010 7:19 pm   



Bill Sloman wrote:
Quote:
On Feb 5, 1:03 pm, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
CERN's black hole cannon not working right for a other 2 years.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/05/science/05collide.html?ref=science
Will run only at half power until 2012.
Not a much better search for the Higgs then the 7 years at 2 TeV that Fermilab already has.

LOL
What a joke.

3.5 TeV for two years may not be much better than 2 TeV for seven
years, but it is still better than nothing, which is what the
theortical physicists had when the super-conducting magnet blew up

The joke is your claim that Large Hadron Collider isn't working right.
It is doing exactly what its operators want it to do, demonstrating
that all the sub-systems are doing what they are supposed to when
operating under a substantial proportion of the design load

It isn't doing what the theoritical phsycists would like it to do,
which is to start working at its design energy right now, but happily
the slow and cautious brigade have got their wish.

The real disaster is waiting to happen - no new physics at all even at
full power. Can you imagine what the next request for an even more
powerful and more expensive machine will sound like after that?

--
Dirk

http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show

Bill Sloman
Guest

Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:08 pm   



On Feb 5, 3:42 pm, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
On a sunny day (Fri, 5 Feb 2010 05:41:30 -0800 (PST)) it happenedBill Sloman
bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote in
1bf0037f-80ee-4bf7-9fd3-924c7ecc8...@3g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>:



On Feb 5, 1:03 pm, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
CERN's black hole cannon not working right for a other 2 years.
 http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/05/science/05collide.html?ref=science
Will run only at half power until 2012.
Not a much better search for the Higgs then the 7 years at 2 TeV that Fer> >milab already has.

LOL
What a joke.

3.5 TeV for two years may not be much better than 2 TeV for seven
years, but it is still better than nothing, which is what the
theortical physicists had when the super-conducting magnet blew up

The joke is your claim that Large Hadron Collider isn't working right.
It is doing exactly what its operators want it to do, demonstrating
that all the sub-systems are doing what they are supposed to when
operating under a substantial proportion of the design load

It isn't doing what the theoritical phsycists would like it to do,
which is to start working at its design energy right now, but happily
the slow and cautious brigade have got their wish.

Well if you designed a 100 W RMS amplifier, and it only delivered 50 W,
and was payed such a large amount of money for it, it would be called fraud.

But if you tested it by screwing the output straight up to 100W when
you first turned it on, you'd be called an idiot.

The Large Hadron Collider is a little more complcated than a 100W
amplifier, and the testing and tuning up takes correspondingly longer.

Quote:
Almost as much fraud as global heating.

Since Global Warming is not the fraud, but rather the Exxon-Mobil
propaganda which you choose to believe despite its obvious defects,
that "almost" doesn't mean what you would like it to mean.

Quote:
A political social project to keep the brain dead scientist,
who never in all these years came closer to understanding
gravity, fusion, or a better weapon, busy.

Your opinion - as a an obviously gullible sucker - is worth exactly as
much a Jim Thompson's and Eeyore's, which is to say, very little. The
dead brain involved is yours.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

Bill Sloman
Guest

Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:09 pm   



On Feb 5, 4:57 pm, Okkim Atnarivik
<Okkim.Atnari...@twentyfour.fi.invalid> wrote:
Quote:
Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:

: CERN's black hole cannon not working right for a other 2 years.

  After their cryogenic system failed, and after the incident of
some bird having made its nest within the accelerator (causing
a short circuit or something) I started hearing this theory:
Discovery of the Higgs boson will turn out to facilitate time
travel, and now the unverse is protecting causality.
In other words, the accelerator will never work.

A nice theory, but not original.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

Bill Sloman
Guest

Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:24 pm   



On Feb 5, 6:15 pm, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
On a sunny day (Fri, 5 Feb 2010 17:57:49 +0200 (EET)) it happened Okkim
Atnarivik <Okkim.Atnari...@twentyfour.fi.invalid> wrote in
hkhf5t$5e...@epityr.hut.fi>:

Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
: CERN's black hole cannon not working right for a other 2 years.

 After their cryogenic system failed, and after the incident of
some bird having made its nest within the accelerator (causing
a short circuit or something) I started hearing this theory:
Discovery of the Higgs boson will turn out to facilitate time
travel, and now the unverse is protecting causality.
In other words, the accelerator will never work.

 Regards,
          Mikko

Yes I have heard that theory too, from a Nobel winner at that IIRC.
Too many mathematicians and idiots in my view.

Jan Panteltje seems to be well-placed to recognise the idiots. It is a
pity he doesn't have the same hands-on familiarity with mathematics
and science, but the daft ideas that he espouses must make it
difficult for him to make sense of these subjects.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

Jan Panteltje
Guest

Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:07 pm   



On a sunny day (Fri, 5 Feb 2010 09:24:21 -0800 (PST)) it happened Bill Sloman
<bill.sloman_at_ieee.org> wrote in
<3a81e0f1-27ce-4252-8af6-86ee2088346a_at_m31g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>:

Quote:
On Feb 5, 6:15 pm, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On a sunny day (Fri, 5 Feb 2010 17:57:49 +0200 (EET)) it happened Okkim
Atnarivik <Okkim.Atnari...@twentyfour.fi.invalid> wrote in
hkhf5t$5e...@epityr.hut.fi>:

Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
: CERN's black hole cannon not working right for a other 2 years.

 After their cryogenic system failed, and after the incident of
some bird having made its nest within the accelerator (causing
a short circuit or something) I started hearing this theory:
Discovery of the Higgs boson will turn out to facilitate time
travel, and now the unverse is protecting causality.
In other words, the accelerator will never work.

 Regards,
          Mikko

Yes I have heard that theory too, from a Nobel winner at that IIRC.
Too many mathematicians and idiots in my view.

Jan Panteltje seems to be well-placed to recognise the idiots. It is a
pity he doesn't have the same hands-on familiarity with mathematics
and science, but the daft ideas that he espouses must make it
difficult for him to make sense of these subjects.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

Well I recognised you as a climate idiot!
1:0

John Fields
Guest

Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:09 pm   



On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 05:41:30 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
<bill.sloman_at_ieee.org> wrote:

Quote:
On Feb 5, 1:03 pm, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
CERN's black hole cannon not working right for a other 2 years.
 http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/05/science/05collide.html?ref=science
Will run only at half power until 2012.
Not a much better search for the Higgs then the 7 years at 2 TeV that Fermilab already has.

LOL
What a joke.

3.5 TeV for two years may not be much better than 2 TeV for seven
years, but it is still better than nothing, which is what the
theortical physicists had when the super-conducting magnet blew up

The joke is your claim that Large Hadron Collider isn't working right.

---
Then your contention is that the blow-up was planned?

JF

John Fields
Guest

Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:11 pm   



On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 14:42:15 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaonStpealmtje_at_yahoo.com> wrote:

Quote:
On a sunny day (Fri, 5 Feb 2010 05:41:30 -0800 (PST)) it happened Bill Sloman
bill.sloman_at_ieee.org> wrote in
1bf0037f-80ee-4bf7-9fd3-924c7ecc8390_at_3g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>:

On Feb 5, 1:03 pm, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
CERN's black hole cannon not working right for a other 2 years.
 http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/05/science/05collide.html?ref=science
Will run only at half power until 2012.
Not a much better search for the Higgs then the 7 years at 2 TeV that Fer=
milab already has.

LOL
What a joke.

3.5 TeV for two years may not be much better than 2 TeV for seven
years, but it is still better than nothing, which is what the
theortical physicists had when the super-conducting magnet blew up

The joke is your claim that Large Hadron Collider isn't working right.
It is doing exactly what its operators want it to do, demonstrating
that all the sub-systems are doing what they are supposed to when
operating under a substantial proportion of the design load

It isn't doing what the theoritical phsycists would like it to do,
which is to start working at its design energy right now, but happily
the slow and cautious brigade have got their wish.

Well if you designed a 100 W RMS amplifier, and it only delivered 50 W,
and was payed such a large amount of money for it, it would be called fraud.

---
Especially if, after it got to 50 watts out, it blew up.

JF

John Fields
Guest

Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:20 pm   



On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 17:57:49 +0200 (EET), Okkim Atnarivik
<Okkim.Atnarivik_at_twentyfour.fi.invalid> wrote:

Quote:
Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
: CERN's black hole cannon not working right for a other 2 years.

After their cryogenic system failed, and after the incident of
some bird having made its nest within the accelerator (causing
a short circuit or something) I started hearing this theory:
Discovery of the Higgs boson will turn out to facilitate time
travel, and now the unverse is protecting causality.
In other words, the accelerator will never work.

---
Perhaps, then, the "end of time" scenario predicted for 2012 will come
about because of our dogged determination to make the machine work and
because of that the universe will allow us to go back and step on a
butterfly.


JF

John Fields
Guest

Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:30 pm   



On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 09:09:23 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
<bill.sloman_at_ieee.org> wrote:

Quote:
On Feb 5, 4:57 pm, Okkim Atnarivik
Okkim.Atnari...@twentyfour.fi.invalid> wrote:
Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:

: CERN's black hole cannon not working right for a other 2 years.

  After their cryogenic system failed, and after the incident of
some bird having made its nest within the accelerator (causing
a short circuit or something) I started hearing this theory:
Discovery of the Higgs boson will turn out to facilitate time
travel, and now the unverse is protecting causality.
In other words, the accelerator will never work.

A nice theory, but not original.

---
So what?

None of your hydrophobic blather is original either, and yet you don't
seem to mind spewing it ad nauseam.

JF

John Fields
Guest

Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:38 pm   



On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 17:19:07 +0000, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
<dirk.bruere_at_gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
Bill Sloman wrote:
On Feb 5, 1:03 pm, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
CERN's black hole cannon not working right for a other 2 years.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/05/science/05collide.html?ref=science
Will run only at half power until 2012.
Not a much better search for the Higgs then the 7 years at 2 TeV that Fermilab already has.

LOL
What a joke.

3.5 TeV for two years may not be much better than 2 TeV for seven
years, but it is still better than nothing, which is what the
theortical physicists had when the super-conducting magnet blew up

The joke is your claim that Large Hadron Collider isn't working right.
It is doing exactly what its operators want it to do, demonstrating
that all the sub-systems are doing what they are supposed to when
operating under a substantial proportion of the design load

It isn't doing what the theoritical phsycists would like it to do,
which is to start working at its design energy right now, but happily
the slow and cautious brigade have got their wish.

The real disaster is waiting to happen - no new physics at all even at
full power. Can you imagine what the next request for an even more
powerful and more expensive machine will sound like after that?

---
Yup, something like:

"What we didn't know before and what we've found using this machine is
that we need an even more powerful and expensive machine to get to the
next level."

And then, after some initial grumbling, approval will be given to
continue on with the boondoggle.

JF

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