CERN's black hole cannon not working right for a other 2 yea

On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 14:52:56 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman



bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 5, 8:44 pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 09:24:21 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 5, 6:15 pm, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On a sunny day (Fri, 5 Feb 2010 17:57:49 +0200 (EET)) it happened Okkim
Atnarivik <Okkim.Atnari...@twentyfour.fi.invalid> wrote in
hkhf5t$5e...@epityr.hut.fi>:

Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
: CERN's black hole cannon not working right for a other 2 years.

After their cryogenic system failed, and after the incident of
some bird having made its nest within the accelerator (causing
a short circuit or something) I started hearing this theory:
Discovery of the Higgs boson will turn out to facilitate time
travel, and now the unverse is protecting causality.
In other words, the accelerator will never work.

Regards,
Mikko

Yes I have heard that theory too, from a Nobel winner at that IIRC.
Too many mathematicians and idiots in my view.

Jan Panteltje seems to be well-placed to recognise the idiots.

---
Well, he certainly seems to be able to easily pick you out of the
line-up of the usual suspects.

He'd like to think that I'm an idiot, in that same way that you'd like
to think that I don't know what I'm talking about.

Well, if that's the case, then we're _both_ right.

Pity about that. The universe is a cruel hard place, and your
favourite illusions can't conceal the fact that you are both
regretably under-educated.

---
One with an adequate education shouldn't have to be told that
"regretably"  is correctly spelled: 'regrettably'.

On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 18:14:42 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman



bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 6, 2:21 am, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net
wrote:
John Fields wrote:

On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 09:24:21 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman
bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:

On Feb 5, 6:15 pm, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On a sunny day (Fri, 5 Feb 2010 17:57:49 +0200 (EET)) it happened Okkim
Atnarivik <Okkim.Atnari...@twentyfour.fi.invalid> wrote in
hkhf5t$5e...@epityr.hut.fi>:

Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
: CERN's black hole cannon not working right for a other 2 years..

 After their cryogenic system failed, and after the incident of
some bird having made its nest within the accelerator (causing
a short circuit or something) I started hearing this theory:
Discovery of the Higgs boson will turn out to facilitate time
travel, and now the unverse is protecting causality.
In other words, the accelerator will never work.

 Regards,
          Mikko

Yes I have heard that theory too, from a Nobel winner at that IIRC.
Too many mathematicians and idiots in my view.

Jan Panteltje seems to be well-placed to recognise the idiots.

---
Well, he certainly seems to be able to easily pick you out of the
line-up of the usual suspects.

   Someone who is blind and deaf could pick him out, just by the
overpowering scent of a LOSER. :(

Michael Terrell - being a well-known winner, and widely touted as the
most successful member of his high-school graduating class - wouldn't
know what a loser smelled like, would he?

---
Shucks, Bill, what with all the shit you spew, we all do.

On Feb 6, 5:54 am, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 14:52:56 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman



bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:

Pity about that. The universe is a cruel hard place, and your
favourite illusions can't conceal the fact that you are both
regretably under-educated.

---
One with an adequate education shouldn't have to be told that
"regretably"  is correctly spelled: 'regrettably'.

It is a dam poor mind that can only think of one way to spell a word.

On Sat, 6 Feb 2010 07:11:14 -0800 (PST), MooseFET <kensmith_at_rahul.net
wrote:

On Feb 6, 5:54 am, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 14:52:56 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman



bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:

Pity about that. The universe is a cruel hard place, and your
favourite illusions can't conceal the fact that you are both
regretably under-educated.

---
One with an adequate education shouldn't have to be told that
"regretably"  is correctly spelled: 'regrettably'.

It is a dam poor mind that can only think of one way to spell a word.

---
I cunt agree more. :-)

JF

On Feb 6, 6:26 pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 18:05:10 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman



bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 6, 2:17 am, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net
wrote:
John Fields wrote:

Jan Panteltje wrote:

Well if you designed a 100 W RMS amplifier, and it only delivered 50 W,
and was payed such a large amount of money for it, it would be called fraud.

Especially if, after it got to 50 watts out, it blew up.

   Another of those 'fabulous' Sloman designs?

As in one more fable invented by John Fields and enthusiastically
believed in by Mike Terrell.
The usual case of the dumb fantasist misleading the even dumber brown-
nose

Hell, if I wanted to invent a _real_ fable it'd be that you knew what
you were talking about.

One of your problems is that you think that your fables do describe
reality.

But no one would believe it, so what'd be the point?

John Fields trots out one of the - many - fables with which he
comforts himself.

On Feb 6, 6:04 pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 14:53:25 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 5, 8:30 pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 09:09:23 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 5, 4:57 pm, Okkim Atnarivik
Okkim.Atnari...@twentyfour.fi.invalid> wrote:
Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:

: CERN's black hole cannon not working right for a other 2 years.

  After their cryogenic system failed, and after the incident of
some bird having made its nest within the accelerator (causing
a short circuit or something) I started hearing this theory:
Discovery of the Higgs boson will turn out to facilitate time
travel, and now the unverse is protecting causality.
In other words, the accelerator will never work.

A nice theory, but not original.

---
So what?

None of your hydrophobic blather is original either, and yet you don't
seem to mind spewing it ad nauseam.

Not a contention that you have actually proved, and not a contention
that you would be equipped to prove if it happened to be correct
(which it isn't).

---
Well, I guess I was a little hasty in saying that none of your
hydrophobic blather is original when what I should have said was that
very little of your hydrophobic blather is original.

And even though you missed my implication, the point still stands; it
being that you criticize others for repeating what they've heard when
you do the same thing, hypocrite, and expect to get away with it with
impunity.

The difference is that I actually understand a fair bit of what I pick
up and broadcast. This isn't a form of comprehension that you can
either understand or share, so it would be difficult to for you to see
the difference.

You may know everything that there is to know about the 555 - except
which modern devices do its job better - but you don't know much about
anything else, as you frequently take pains to tell us.

---
Those are just a couple more of the convenient untruths you try to
peddle as fact by endless, mind-numbing repetition.

As a refutation of the first lie, here's the code for a
crystal-controlled 40kHz astable I designed to drive an IRLED using a
Motorola MC68HC05K1, instead of a 555, about 16 years ago:

Wonderful. You eventually found out about the MC68Hc05 in 1994, and
recognised its potential as a device for replacing a 555 when you
actually wanted stable and predictable timing intervals.

How long did the customer have to hang you over a slow fire before he
could persuade you that the 555 was inadequate?

On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 18:14:42 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
bill.sloman_at_ieee.org> wrote:

On Feb 6, 2:21 am, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net
wrote:
John Fields wrote:

On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 09:24:21 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman
bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:

On Feb 5, 6:15 pm, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On a sunny day (Fri, 5 Feb 2010 17:57:49 +0200 (EET)) it happened Okkim
Atnarivik <Okkim.Atnari...@twentyfour.fi.invalid> wrote in
hkhf5t$5e...@epityr.hut.fi>:

Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
: CERN's black hole cannon not working right for a other 2 years.

After their cryogenic system failed, and after the incident of
some bird having made its nest within the accelerator (causing
a short circuit or something) I started hearing this theory:
Discovery of the Higgs boson will turn out to facilitate time
travel, and now the unverse is protecting causality.
In other words, the accelerator will never work.

Regards,
Mikko

Yes I have heard that theory too, from a Nobel winner at that IIRC.
Too many mathematicians and idiots in my view.

Jan Panteltje seems to be well-placed to recognise the idiots.

---
Well, he certainly seems to be able to easily pick you out of the
line-up of the usual suspects.

Someone who is blind and deaf could pick him out, just by the
overpowering scent of a LOSER. :(

Michael Terrell - being a well-known winner, and widely touted as the
most successful member of his high-school graduating class - wouldn't
know what a loser smelled like, would he?

---
Shucks, Bill, what with all the shit you spew, we all do.

On Feb 6, 2:54 pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 14:52:56 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman



bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 5, 8:44 pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 09:24:21 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 5, 6:15 pm, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On a sunny day (Fri, 5 Feb 2010 17:57:49 +0200 (EET)) it happened Okkim
Atnarivik <Okkim.Atnari...@twentyfour.fi.invalid> wrote in
hkhf5t$5e...@epityr.hut.fi>:

Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
: CERN's black hole cannon not working right for a other 2 years.

After their cryogenic system failed, and after the incident of
some bird having made its nest within the accelerator (causing
a short circuit or something) I started hearing this theory:
Discovery of the Higgs boson will turn out to facilitate time
travel, and now the unverse is protecting causality.
In other words, the accelerator will never work.

Regards,
Mikko

Yes I have heard that theory too, from a Nobel winner at that IIRC.
Too many mathematicians and idiots in my view.

Jan Panteltje seems to be well-placed to recognise the idiots.

---
Well, he certainly seems to be able to easily pick you out of the
line-up of the usual suspects.

He'd like to think that I'm an idiot, in that same way that you'd like
to think that I don't know what I'm talking about.

Well, if that's the case, then we're _both_ right.

You'd both like to think so, which is about as close to "right" as you
ever get.

Pity about that. The universe is a cruel hard place, and your
favourite illusions can't conceal the fact that you are both
regretably under-educated.

---
One with an adequate education shouldn't have to be told that
"regretably"  is correctly spelled: 'regrettably'.

Education is no protection against the occasional typo.

On Feb 6, 6:09 pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 18:14:42 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman



bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 6, 2:21 am, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net
wrote:
John Fields wrote:

On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 09:24:21 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman
bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:

On Feb 5, 6:15 pm, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On a sunny day (Fri, 5 Feb 2010 17:57:49 +0200 (EET)) it happened Okkim
Atnarivik <Okkim.Atnari...@twentyfour.fi.invalid> wrote in
hkhf5t$5e...@epityr.hut.fi>:

Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
: CERN's black hole cannon not working right for a other 2 years.

 After their cryogenic system failed, and after the incident of
some bird having made its nest within the accelerator (causing
a short circuit or something) I started hearing this theory:
Discovery of the Higgs boson will turn out to facilitate time
travel, and now the unverse is protecting causality.
In other words, the accelerator will never work.

 Regards,
          Mikko

Yes I have heard that theory too, from a Nobel winner at that IIRC.
Too many mathematicians and idiots in my view.

Jan Panteltje seems to be well-placed to recognise the idiots.

---
Well, he certainly seems to be able to easily pick you out of the
line-up of the usual suspects.

   Someone who is blind and deaf could pick him out, just by the
overpowering scent of a LOSER. :(

Michael Terrell - being a well-known winner, and widely touted as the
most successful member of his high-school graduating class - wouldn't
know what a loser smelled like, would he?

---
Shucks, Bill, what with all the shit you spew, we all do.

And your shit doesn't stink?

On Sat, 6 Feb 2010 11:00:50 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
bill.sloman_at_ieee.org> wrote:

On Feb 6, 6:04 pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 14:53:25 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 5, 8:30 pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 09:09:23 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 5, 4:57 pm, Okkim Atnarivik
Okkim.Atnari...@twentyfour.fi.invalid> wrote:
Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:

: CERN's black hole cannon not working right for a other 2 years.

  After their cryogenic system failed, and after the incident of
some bird having made its nest within the accelerator (causing
a short circuit or something) I started hearing this theory:
Discovery of the Higgs boson will turn out to facilitate time
travel, and now the unverse is protecting causality.
In other words, the accelerator will never work.

A nice theory, but not original.

---
So what?

None of your hydrophobic blather is original either, and yet you don't
seem to mind spewing it ad nauseam.

Not a contention that you have actually proved, and not a contention
that you would be equipped to prove if it happened to be correct
(which it isn't).

---
Well, I guess I was a little hasty in saying that none of your
hydrophobic blather is original when what I should have said was that
very little of your hydrophobic blather is original.

And even though you missed my implication, the point still stands; it
being that you criticize others for repeating what they've heard when
you do the same thing, hypocrite, and expect to get away with it with
impunity.

The difference is that I actually understand a fair bit of what I pick
up and broadcast. This isn't a form of comprehension that you can
either understand or share, so it would be difficult to for you to see
the difference.

---
Nonsense.

Your raison d'être is to pretend to authority by parroting an
"authoritative" source with which you agree and then to defend your
proselytizing with invective.
---

You may know everything that there is to know about the 555 - except
which modern devices do its job better - but you don't know much about
anything else, as you frequently take pains to tell us.

---
Those are just a couple more of the convenient untruths you try to
peddle as fact by endless, mind-numbing repetition.

As a refutation of the first lie, here's the code for a
crystal-controlled 40kHz astable I designed to drive an IRLED using a
Motorola MC68HC05K1, instead of a 555, about 16 years ago:

Wonderful. You eventually found out about the MC68Hc05 in 1994, and
recognised its potential as a device for replacing a 555 when you
actually wanted stable and predictable timing intervals.

---
Please...

You're preaching to the choir.

I learned how to use crystal oscillators and counter chains to do that
long before the '90's, I was just using that particular instance to
refute your first lie with some fairly dated technology you might
faintly remember since your exposure to it was just in passing.
---

How long did the customer have to hang you over a slow fire before he
could persuade you that the 555 was inadequate?

---
You never miss a chance to be obnoxious, do you?

My customer had nothing to do with it, and had a 555 been the device of
choice, that's precisely what I'd have used.

JF

John Fields wrote:

On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 18:14:42 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
bill.sloman_at_ieee.org> wrote:

On Feb 6, 2:21 am, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net
wrote:
John Fields wrote:

On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 09:24:21 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman
bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:

On Feb 5, 6:15 pm, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On a sunny day (Fri, 5 Feb 2010 17:57:49 +0200 (EET)) it happened Okkim
Atnarivik <Okkim.Atnari...@twentyfour.fi.invalid> wrote in
hkhf5t$5e...@epityr.hut.fi>:

Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
: CERN's black hole cannon not working right for a other 2 years.

After their cryogenic system failed, and after the incident of
some bird having made its nest within the accelerator (causing
a short circuit or something) I started hearing this theory:
Discovery of the Higgs boson will turn out to facilitate time
travel, and now the unverse is protecting causality.
In other words, the accelerator will never work.

Regards,
Mikko

Yes I have heard that theory too, from a Nobel winner at that IIRC.
Too many mathematicians and idiots in my view.

Jan Panteltje seems to be well-placed to recognise the idiots.

---
Well, he certainly seems to be able to easily pick you out of the
line-up of the usual suspects.

Someone who is blind and deaf could pick him out, just by the
overpowering scent of a LOSER. :(

Michael Terrell - being a well-known winner, and widely touted as the
most successful member of his high-school graduating class - wouldn't
know what a loser smelled like, would he?

---
Shucks, Bill, what with all the shit you spew, we all do.


We can smell Sloman all the way across the Atlantic ocean.

On Sat, 6 Feb 2010 11:06:11 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
bill.sloman_at_ieee.org> wrote:

On Feb 6, 2:54 pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 14:52:56 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman



bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 5, 8:44 pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 09:24:21 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 5, 6:15 pm, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On a sunny day (Fri, 5 Feb 2010 17:57:49 +0200 (EET)) it happened Okkim
Atnarivik <Okkim.Atnari...@twentyfour.fi.invalid> wrote in
hkhf5t$5e...@epityr.hut.fi>:

Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
: CERN's black hole cannon not working right for a other 2 years.

After their cryogenic system failed, and after the incident of
some bird having made its nest within the accelerator (causing
a short circuit or something) I started hearing this theory:
Discovery of the Higgs boson will turn out to facilitate time
travel, and now the unverse is protecting causality.
In other words, the accelerator will never work.

Regards,
Mikko

Yes I have heard that theory too, from a Nobel winner at that IIRC.
Too many mathematicians and idiots in my view.

Jan Panteltje seems to be well-placed to recognise the idiots.

---
Well, he certainly seems to be able to easily pick you out of the
line-up of the usual suspects.

He'd like to think that I'm an idiot, in that same way that you'd like
to think that I don't know what I'm talking about.

Well, if that's the case, then we're _both_ right.

You'd both like to think so, which is about as close to "right" as you
ever get.

---
Nonplussed, eh?
---

Pity about that. The universe is a cruel hard place, and your
favourite illusions can't conceal the fact that you are both
regretably under-educated.

---
One with an adequate education shouldn't have to be told that
"regretably"  is correctly spelled: 'regrettably'.

Education is no protection against the occasional typo.

---
True, but one would think it should certainly stave off the flood...

JF

On Sat, 6 Feb 2010 11:07:27 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
bill.sloman_at_ieee.org> wrote:

On Feb 6, 6:09 pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 18:14:42 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman



bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 6, 2:21 am, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net
wrote:
John Fields wrote:

On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 09:24:21 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman
bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:

On Feb 5, 6:15 pm, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On a sunny day (Fri, 5 Feb 2010 17:57:49 +0200 (EET)) it happened Okkim
Atnarivik <Okkim.Atnari...@twentyfour.fi.invalid> wrote in
hkhf5t$5e...@epityr.hut.fi>:

Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
: CERN's black hole cannon not working right for a other 2 years.

 After their cryogenic system failed, and after the incident of
some bird having made its nest within the accelerator (causing
a short circuit or something) I started hearing this theory:
Discovery of the Higgs boson will turn out to facilitate time
travel, and now the unverse is protecting causality.
In other words, the accelerator will never work.

 Regards,
          Mikko

Yes I have heard that theory too, from a Nobel winner at that IIRC.
Too many mathematicians and idiots in my view.

Jan Panteltje seems to be well-placed to recognise the idiots.

---
Well, he certainly seems to be able to easily pick you out of the
line-up of the usual suspects.

   Someone who is blind and deaf could pick him out, just by the
overpowering scent of a LOSER. :(

Michael Terrell - being a well-known winner, and widely touted as the
most successful member of his high-school graduating class - wouldn't
know what a loser smelled like, would he?

---
Shucks, Bill, what with all the shit you spew, we all do.

And your shit doesn't stink?

---
You tell me; you certainly eat enough of it to know.

JF

On Feb 5, 8:09 pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 05:41:30 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 5, 1:03 pm, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
CERN's black hole cannon not working right for a other 2 years.
 http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/05/science/05collide.html?ref=science
Will run only at half power until 2012.
Not a much better search for the Higgs then the 7 years at 2 TeV that Fermilab already has.

LOL
What a joke.

3.5 TeV for two years may not be much better than 2 TeV for seven
years, but it is still better than nothing, which is what the
theortical physicists had when the super-conducting magnet blew up

The joke is your claim that Large Hadron Collider isn't working right.

---
Then your contention is that the blow-up was planned?

No - that it was the kind of teething trouble that you often run into
on large, complicated projects. Not an area you'd know much about.

On Feb 6, 12:25 am, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On a sunny day (Fri, 5 Feb 2010 14:47:53 -0800 (PST)) it happenedBill Sloman
bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote in
14142fc2-aa93-418c-8a41-71bd66d09...@z41g2000yqz.googlegroups.com>:

1:0

Actually, you recognised me as someone who hadn't fallen for the Exxon-
Mobil propaganda

Poor Billy,
Exxon Mobil is *against* global warming as I tried to explain to your last remaining neuron,
because if it is cold they sell more fuel and the fuel price goes up.

Since the explanation - as I pointed out at the time - failed to take
into account the the fuel they sell to run air-conditioning units
(like the ones my wife and I have in our cars, even if your bicycle
doesn't feature this kind of luxury)

it was just one more example of
your failure to understand what was actually going on, and now alos
reflects your incapacity to get your head around any new fact that
hasn't been organised into a seductive package by your friendlu=y loca
denialist web-site.