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MooseFET
Guest

Sat Feb 06, 2010 5:11 pm   



On Feb 6, 5:54 am, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 14:52:56 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman



bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 5, 8:44 pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 09:24:21 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 5, 6:15 pm, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On a sunny day (Fri, 5 Feb 2010 17:57:49 +0200 (EET)) it happened Okkim
Atnarivik <Okkim.Atnari...@twentyfour.fi.invalid> wrote in
hkhf5t$5e...@epityr.hut.fi>:

Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
: CERN's black hole cannon not working right for a other 2 years.

After their cryogenic system failed, and after the incident of
some bird having made its nest within the accelerator (causing
a short circuit or something) I started hearing this theory:
Discovery of the Higgs boson will turn out to facilitate time
travel, and now the unverse is protecting causality.
In other words, the accelerator will never work.

Regards,
Mikko

Yes I have heard that theory too, from a Nobel winner at that IIRC.
Too many mathematicians and idiots in my view.

Jan Panteltje seems to be well-placed to recognise the idiots.

---
Well, he certainly seems to be able to easily pick you out of the
line-up of the usual suspects.

He'd like to think that I'm an idiot, in that same way that you'd like
to think that I don't know what I'm talking about.

---
Well, if that's the case, then we're _both_ right.
---

Pity about that. The universe is a cruel hard place, and your
favourite illusions can't conceal the fact that you are both
regretably under-educated.

---
One with an adequate education shouldn't have to be told that
"regretably"  is correctly spelled: 'regrettably'.

It is a dam poor mind that can only think of one way to spell a word.

Quote:

JF


John Fields
Guest

Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:04 pm   



On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 14:53:25 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
<bill.sloman_at_ieee.org> wrote:

Quote:
On Feb 5, 8:30 pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 09:09:23 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 5, 4:57 pm, Okkim Atnarivik
Okkim.Atnari...@twentyfour.fi.invalid> wrote:
Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:

: CERN's black hole cannon not working right for a other 2 years.

  After their cryogenic system failed, and after the incident of
some bird having made its nest within the accelerator (causing
a short circuit or something) I started hearing this theory:
Discovery of the Higgs boson will turn out to facilitate time
travel, and now the unverse is protecting causality.
In other words, the accelerator will never work.

A nice theory, but not original.

---
So what?

None of your hydrophobic blather is original either, and yet you don't
seem to mind spewing it ad nauseam.

Not a contention that you have actually proved, and not a contention
that you would be equipped to prove if it happened to be correct
(which it isn't).

---
Well, I guess I was a little hasty in saying that none of your
hydrophobic blather is original when what I should have said was that
very little of your hydrophobic blather is original.

And even though you missed my implication, the point still stands; it
being that you criticize others for repeating what they've heard when
you do the same thing, hypocrite, and expect to get away with it with
impunity.
---

Quote:
You may know everything that there is to know about the 555 - except
which modern devices do its job better - but you don't know much about
anything else, as you frequently take pains to tell us.

---
Those are just a couple more of the convenient untruths you try to
peddle as fact by endless, mind-numbing repetition.


As a refutation of the first lie, here's the code for a
crystal-controlled 40kHz astable I designed to drive an IRLED using a
Motorola MC68HC05K1, instead of a 555, about 16 years ago:


;LBJ Library Infrared Transmitter
;TX.asm
;(C) 1994 Austin Instruments, Inc.
;Austin, TX

;***** set up housekeeping
org $03f8 ;start of interrupt vectors
dw $0200 ;there is no timer isr
dw $0200 ;there is no external isr
dw $0200 ;there is no sw isr
dw start ;reset vector

org $0200 ;prog starts at $0200
;***** program starts here

start: lda #00 ;0000 0000
sta prta ;clear porta
sta $10 ;enable porta pulldowns
sta ddra ;set porta = all inputs
sta prtb ;clear portb
lda #02 ;0000 0010
sta $11 ;enable portb pulldown
lda #01 ;0000 0001
sta ddrb ;portb lsb = output

;***** turn on IRED
iron: bset 0,prtb ;turn on ired after 5us
nop ;2 us delay
brn iron ;3 us delay
brn iron ;3 us delay

;***** turn off ired
bclr 0,prtb ;turn off ired after 5 us
nop ;2 us delay
brn iron ;3 us delay
jmp iron ;jump after 3 us


And, a refutation of the second lie:


;LBJ Library Master Receiver
;MRX.ASM
;(C) 1994, Austin Instruments,Inc.
;Austin, TX

;***** set up housekeeping
pw equ $00e0 ;pulse width register

org $03f8 ;start of interrupt vectors
dw $0200 ;there is no timer isr
dw $0200 ;there is no external isr
dw $0200 ;there is no sw isr
dw start ;reset vector

org $0200 ;prog starts at $0200

;***** program starts here
;***** set up ports
start: clr pw
lda #$ff ;1111 1111
sta ddra ;porta all outs
lda #$03 ;0000 0011
sta prtb ;set up portb data
lda #$02 ;0000 0010
sta ddrb ;portb all ins except bit1 =
output

isbmbrk: brset 0,prtb,dbounce ;check for beam break
bra isbmbrk ;and loop until break occurs

dbounce: jsr t10 ;wait 10 ms
brclr 0,prtb,isbmbrk ;then go back if not broken

bmisbrk: inc pw ;bump pulse width counter
jsr t10 ;then wait 10 ms
brset 0,prtb,bmisbrk ;and loop if beam is still
broken

lda pw ;else get number in pw
cmp #!75 ;compare it to 75
bls txlo ;branch if it's <=75
lda #$02 ;else put 2 in acca
bra txdata ;to send to slave
txlo: lda #$01 ;put 1 in acca

txdata: sta porta ;send data to the slave
jsr t1 ;let it settle for 1 ms
bclr 1,portb ;send irq to the slave
jsr t1 ;let it settle for 1 ms

clr porta ;clear data output to slave
bset 1,prtb ;end slave irq
clr pw ;get ready for new input data
jmp isbmbrk ;and go back to wait for it


;***** subroutines
;***** 10 millisecond timer

t10: lda #$07
ldx #$7b

c10: decx
bne c10

deca
bne c10
rts

;***** 1 millisecond timer

t1: lda #$07

ld1: ldx #$17
cnt1: decx
bne cnt1

deca
bne ld1
rts


and:



;LBJ Library Slave Receiver
;SRX.ASM
;(C) 1994, Austin Instruments, Inc.
;Austin, TX

;***** set up housekeeping
;***** define vectors
org $03f8 ;start of interrupt vectors
dw rtisr ;there ** is ** a timer isr
dw extint ;there ** is ** an external isr
dw $0200 ;there is no sw isr
dw start ;reset vector

;***** allocate ram
tempa equ $00e0 ;temp acca storage
tempx equ $00e1 ;temp accx storage
pw equ $00e2 ;local pulsewidth register
npw equ $00e3 ;local normalized pw reg
nreg equ $00e4 ;master rx beam data store
kreg equ $00e5 ;relay count register

;***** program starts here
org $0200

;***** initialize ram
start: clr tempa ;clear temp acca
clr tempx ;clear temp accx
clr pw ;clear local pulsewidth reg
clr npw
clr nreg
bset 7,nreg ;set nreg to 128
clr kreg ;clear relay count register
clrx ;clear accx

;****** set up i/o
lda #$01 ;0000 0001
sta prtb ;preset irdet as cold
clr ddra ;porta all ins
lda #$02 ;0000 0010
sta ddrb ;portb b1 = out, b0 = in

;***** set up interrupt regs
lda 13
sta tcsr ;timer control and status reg
cli ;allow interrupts

isbmbrk: brset 0,prtb,dbounce ;check for beam break
bra isbmbrk ;and loop until break occurs

dbounce: jsr t10 ;wait 10 ms (t1 for sim)*****
brclr 0,prtb,isbmbrk ;then go back if not broken

bmisbrk: inc pw ;bump pulse width counter
jsr t10 ;then wait 10 ms (t1 for
sim)*****
brset 0,prtb,bmisbrk ;and loop if beam is still
broken

clr npw
lda pw ;else get number in pw
cmp #!75 ;compare it to 75
bls rxlo ;branch if it's <= 75
dec nreg ;else nreg = nreg -1
inc npw ;and npw = npw + 1
inc kreg ;and kreg = kreg + 1
rxlo: dec nreg ;nreg = nreg -1
inc npw ;npw = npw + 1
inc kreg ;kreg = kreg + 1
clr pw ;clear the pw reg
lda nreg ;put nreg into acca
cmp #$80 ;is nreg >= 128?
bhs isbmbrk ;if yes, go to top
lda kreg ;else get value of kreg
sub npw ;subtract normalized pulse width
sta kreg ;write new value to kreg
bra isbmbrk ;and wait for next beambreak

;***** isr for data from master
extint: bset 1,$000a ;reset ext irq latch (for pod
only)
lda prta ;get porta data
cmp #$02 ;is it < 2?
blo little ;branch if yes
inc nreg ;else new data = old data + new
data
little: inc nreg ;new data = old data + new data
rti ;return

;***** real time isr for relay control
rtisr: bset 2,$0008 ;reset rti latch
brset 1,prtb,koff ;if the relay's on, turn it off
lda kreg ;but if it's off, does it need
;to be on?
cmp #$02 ;if kreg >= 4 it needs to be on
blo goback ;else return
lda kreg ;put kreg into acca
sub #$02 ;subtract 4 from it
sta kreg ;and write the difference back
;to kreg
bset 1,prtb ;then turn on the relay
rti ;and return
koff: bclr 1,prtb ;turn off the relay
goback: rti ;and return


;***** subroutines
;*****fake timer for simulator use
t1: sta tempa
stx tempx
lda #$02
c1: deca
bne c1
lda tempa
ldx tempx
rts

***** 10 millisecond timer
t10: sta tempa
stx tempx
lda #$07
ldx #$7b

c10: decx
bne c10
deca
bne c10
lda tempa
ldx tempx
rts



This code was used to drive a device which tallied visitors into and out
of the LBJ Library and Museum by adding them up as they walked in and
subtracting them as they walked out (in order to keep track of traffic
in and stragglers) so, as you can see, your claims are, as usual,
baseless.

Oh, and that's not even mentioning the optics...


JF

John Fields
Guest

Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:09 pm   



On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 18:14:42 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
<bill.sloman_at_ieee.org> wrote:

Quote:
On Feb 6, 2:21 am, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net
wrote:
John Fields wrote:

On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 09:24:21 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman
bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:

On Feb 5, 6:15 pm, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On a sunny day (Fri, 5 Feb 2010 17:57:49 +0200 (EET)) it happened Okkim
Atnarivik <Okkim.Atnari...@twentyfour.fi.invalid> wrote in
hkhf5t$5e...@epityr.hut.fi>:

Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
: CERN's black hole cannon not working right for a other 2 years.

 After their cryogenic system failed, and after the incident of
some bird having made its nest within the accelerator (causing
a short circuit or something) I started hearing this theory:
Discovery of the Higgs boson will turn out to facilitate time
travel, and now the unverse is protecting causality.
In other words, the accelerator will never work.

 Regards,
          Mikko

Yes I have heard that theory too, from a Nobel winner at that IIRC.
Too many mathematicians and idiots in my view.

Jan Panteltje seems to be well-placed to recognise the idiots.

---
Well, he certainly seems to be able to easily pick you out of the
line-up of the usual suspects.

   Someone who is blind and deaf could pick him out, just by the
overpowering scent of a LOSER. :(

Michael Terrell - being a well-known winner, and widely touted as the
most successful member of his high-school graduating class - wouldn't
know what a loser smelled like, would he?

---
Shucks, Bill, what with all the shit you spew, we all do.

JF

John Fields
Guest

Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:26 pm   



On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 18:05:10 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
<bill.sloman_at_ieee.org> wrote:

Quote:
On Feb 6, 2:17 am, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net
wrote:
John Fields wrote:

Jan Panteltje wrote:

Well if you designed a 100 W RMS amplifier, and it only delivered 50 W,
and was payed such a large amount of money for it, it would be called fraud.

Especially if, after it got to 50 watts out, it blew up.

   Another of those 'fabulous' Sloman designs?

As in one more fable invented by John Fields and enthusiastically
believed in by Mike Terrell.
The usual case of the dumb fantasist misleading the even dumber brown-
nose

Hell, if I wanted to invent a _real_ fable it'd be that you knew what
you were talking about.

But no one would believe it, so what'd be the point?

JF

TralfamadoranJetPilot
Guest

Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:44 pm   



On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 14:52:56 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
<bill.sloman_at_ieee.org> wrote:


Quote:
---
Well, he certainly seems to be able to easily pick you out of the
line-up of the usual suspects.

He'd like to think that I'm an idiot, in that same way that you'd like
to think that I don't know what I'm talking about.

Pity about that. The universe is a cruel hard place, and your
favourite illusions can't conceal the fact that you are both
regretably under-educated.


Jeez, folks, this fucking delusional Sloman retard is worse than that
TLC dope, Jon Gosselin.

A bit full of yourself, eh, slow man? Not that there is much of
anything to be full of...

VioletaPachydermata
Guest

Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:54 pm   



On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 13:20:44 -0600, John Fields
<jfields_at_austininstruments.com> wrote:

Quote:
On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 17:57:49 +0200 (EET), Okkim Atnarivik
Okkim.Atnarivik_at_twentyfour.fi.invalid> wrote:

Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
: CERN's black hole cannon not working right for a other 2 years.

After their cryogenic system failed, and after the incident of
some bird having made its nest within the accelerator (causing
a short circuit or something) I started hearing this theory:
Discovery of the Higgs boson will turn out to facilitate time
travel, and now the unverse is protecting causality.
In other words, the accelerator will never work.

---
Perhaps, then, the "end of time" scenario predicted for 2012 will come
about because of our dogged determination to make the machine work and
because of that the universe will allow us to go back and step on a
butterfly.


JF


Some of us with vision know what the depth of the term "Entropy"
extends to. That big hot spot under Yellowstone isn't just idle... it
has moved. That means that its cycle is due, as are the cycles of many
other geologic / chrono-cyclic events.

Every now and then the world just jiggles a little bit.

Our just happens to coincide with more than a few predictions or
"prophecies".

You know not the hour...

StickThatInYourPipeAndSmo
Guest

Sat Feb 06, 2010 7:06 pm   



On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 13:20:44 -0600, John Fields
<jfields_at_austininstruments.com> wrote:

Quote:
On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 17:57:49 +0200 (EET), Okkim Atnarivik
Okkim.Atnarivik_at_twentyfour.fi.invalid> wrote:

Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
: CERN's black hole cannon not working right for a other 2 years.

After their cryogenic system failed, and after the incident of
some bird having made its nest within the accelerator (causing
a short circuit or something) I started hearing this theory:
Discovery of the Higgs boson will turn out to facilitate time
travel, and now the unverse is protecting causality.
In other words, the accelerator will never work.

---
Perhaps, then, the "end of time" scenario predicted for 2012 will come
about because of our dogged determination to make the machine work and
because of that the universe will allow us to go back and step on a
butterfly.


JF


We do so often seem to appear as being one of God's great, noble
experiments... that failed.

Jesus certainly said so. People need to start examining things from
that baseline. None of us are anything other than equal, and the biggest
problem is that there are those that continue to strive to sink below the
mesh that is considered normalcy, and at the same time, there are those
that get exalted into authority, yet abuse the office and accuse those
that are normal of being "below the mesh". They magically float above
it, never being held responsible for their actions. I speak, of course,
about the abomination that our police have become. They are nothing short
of Nazi pigs now, with their profiling behavior. The really sad thing is
that visual profiling techniques do NOT work.

They are no longer crime fighters, but now nothing more than
opportunists that "find" criminals during their illicit, constitution
circumnavigating, illegal search and seizure maneuvers. With all the
idiot rookies out there, being trained by already totally retarded
instructors and "superior officers" that the country will never recover.

I saw this coming as a child, when I saw the TV news of the Chicago
riots. I knew then, that this country was doomed to become a police
state. It only looks free.

They are gearing up, folks.

Keep your powder dry.

Martin Montonion
Guest

Sat Feb 06, 2010 7:22 pm   



Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:

Quote:
Bill Sloman wrote:
On Feb 5, 1:03 pm, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
CERN's black hole cannon not working right for a other 2 years.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/05/science/05collide.html?ref=science
Will run only at half power until 2012.
Not a much better search for the Higgs then the 7 years at 2 TeV that
Fermilab already has.

LOL
What a joke.

3.5 TeV for two years may not be much better than 2 TeV for seven
years, but it is still better than nothing, which is what the
theortical physicists had when the super-conducting magnet blew up

The joke is your claim that Large Hadron Collider isn't working right.
It is doing exactly what its operators want it to do, demonstrating
that all the sub-systems are doing what they are supposed to when
operating under a substantial proportion of the design load

It isn't doing what the theoritical phsycists would like it to do,
which is to start working at its design energy right now, but happily
the slow and cautious brigade have got their wish.

The real disaster is waiting to happen - no new physics at all even at
full power. Can you imagine what the next request for an even more
powerful and more expensive machine will sound like after that?

Why do you call this a disaster ? It's the normal scientific process.
You have a theory that something cool will happen when you try X, so you
make an experiment. If what you expected does not happen then you know
that your theory was wrong, that is, you gained some new knowledge -
it's no disaster !

Whether (or better: when) a new more powerful machine will be built is a
political decision.



--
Cool links for aspiring physicists, from a Nobel laureate:
http://www.phys.uu.nl/~thooft/theorist.html

StickThatInYourPipeAndSmo
Guest

Sat Feb 06, 2010 7:23 pm   



On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 13:32:37 -0500, Jamie
<jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1lpa__at_charter.net> wrote:

Quote:
StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt wrote:
On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 13:20:44 -0600, John Fields
jfields_at_austininstruments.com> wrote:


On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 17:57:49 +0200 (EET), Okkim Atnarivik
Okkim.Atnarivik_at_twentyfour.fi.invalid> wrote:


Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
: CERN's black hole cannon not working right for a other 2 years.

After their cryogenic system failed, and after the incident of
some bird having made its nest within the accelerator (causing
a short circuit or something) I started hearing this theory:
Discovery of the Higgs boson will turn out to facilitate time
travel, and now the unverse is protecting causality.
In other words, the accelerator will never work.

---
Perhaps, then, the "end of time" scenario predicted for 2012 will come
about because of our dogged determination to make the machine work and
because of that the universe will allow us to go back and step on a
butterfly.


JF



We do so often seem to appear as being one of God's great, noble
experiments... that failed.

Jesus certainly said so. People need to start examining things from
that baseline. None of us are anything other than equal, and the biggest
problem is that there are those that continue to strive to sink below the
mesh that is considered normalcy, and at the same time, there are those
that get exalted into authority, yet abuse the office and accuse those
that are normal of being "below the mesh". They magically float above
it, never being held responsible for their actions. I speak, of course,
about the abomination that our police have become. They are nothing short
of Nazi pigs now, with their profiling behavior. The really sad thing is
that visual profiling techniques do NOT work.

They are no longer crime fighters, but now nothing more than
opportunists that "find" criminals during their illicit, constitution
circumnavigating, illegal search and seizure maneuvers. With all the
idiot rookies out there, being trained by already totally retarded
instructors and "superior officers" that the country will never recover.

I saw this coming as a child, when I saw the TV news of the Chicago
riots. I knew then, that this country was doomed to become a police
state. It only looks free.

They are gearing up, folks.

Keep your powder dry.
And what powder do you refer too?


Sorry, it is an American colloquialism. I did not anticipate that the
"over there" crowd would get it... or need to.

Once you do, however... it should all be clear.

Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
Guest

Sat Feb 06, 2010 7:30 pm   



Martin Montonion wrote:
Quote:
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:

Bill Sloman wrote:
On Feb 5, 1:03 pm, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
CERN's black hole cannon not working right for a other 2 years.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/05/science/05collide.html?ref=science
Will run only at half power until 2012.
Not a much better search for the Higgs then the 7 years at 2 TeV
that Fermilab already has.

LOL
What a joke.

3.5 TeV for two years may not be much better than 2 TeV for seven
years, but it is still better than nothing, which is what the
theortical physicists had when the super-conducting magnet blew up

The joke is your claim that Large Hadron Collider isn't working right.
It is doing exactly what its operators want it to do, demonstrating
that all the sub-systems are doing what they are supposed to when
operating under a substantial proportion of the design load

It isn't doing what the theoritical phsycists would like it to do,
which is to start working at its design energy right now, but happily
the slow and cautious brigade have got their wish.

The real disaster is waiting to happen - no new physics at all even at
full power. Can you imagine what the next request for an even more
powerful and more expensive machine will sound like after that?

Why do you call this a disaster ? It's the normal scientific process.
You have a theory that something cool will happen when you try X, so you
make an experiment. If what you expected does not happen then you know
that your theory was wrong, that is, you gained some new knowledge -
it's no disaster !

Whether (or better: when) a new more powerful machine will be built is a
political decision.

Exactly.
"Hey we blew a few billion on this machine and discovered nothing. So
now we want another few billion to build another machine that may
discover nothing". I think it would be the end of the line for Big$ physics.

--
Dirk

http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show

Jamie
Guest

Sat Feb 06, 2010 7:32 pm   



StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt wrote:
Quote:
On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 13:20:44 -0600, John Fields
jfields_at_austininstruments.com> wrote:


On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 17:57:49 +0200 (EET), Okkim Atnarivik
Okkim.Atnarivik_at_twentyfour.fi.invalid> wrote:


Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
: CERN's black hole cannon not working right for a other 2 years.

After their cryogenic system failed, and after the incident of
some bird having made its nest within the accelerator (causing
a short circuit or something) I started hearing this theory:
Discovery of the Higgs boson will turn out to facilitate time
travel, and now the unverse is protecting causality.
In other words, the accelerator will never work.

---
Perhaps, then, the "end of time" scenario predicted for 2012 will come
about because of our dogged determination to make the machine work and
because of that the universe will allow us to go back and step on a
butterfly.


JF



We do so often seem to appear as being one of God's great, noble
experiments... that failed.

Jesus certainly said so. People need to start examining things from
that baseline. None of us are anything other than equal, and the biggest
problem is that there are those that continue to strive to sink below the
mesh that is considered normalcy, and at the same time, there are those
that get exalted into authority, yet abuse the office and accuse those
that are normal of being "below the mesh". They magically float above
it, never being held responsible for their actions. I speak, of course,
about the abomination that our police have become. They are nothing short
of Nazi pigs now, with their profiling behavior. The really sad thing is
that visual profiling techniques do NOT work.

They are no longer crime fighters, but now nothing more than
opportunists that "find" criminals during their illicit, constitution
circumnavigating, illegal search and seizure maneuvers. With all the
idiot rookies out there, being trained by already totally retarded
instructors and "superior officers" that the country will never recover.

I saw this coming as a child, when I saw the TV news of the Chicago
riots. I knew then, that this country was doomed to become a police
state. It only looks free.

They are gearing up, folks.

Keep your powder dry.
And what powder do you refer too?


Bill Sloman
Guest

Sat Feb 06, 2010 8:35 pm   



On Feb 6, 6:26 pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 18:05:10 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman



bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 6, 2:17 am, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net
wrote:
John Fields wrote:

Jan Panteltje wrote:

Well if you designed a 100 W RMS amplifier, and it only delivered 50 W,
and was payed such a large amount of money for it, it would be called fraud.

Especially if, after it got to 50 watts out, it blew up.

   Another of those 'fabulous' Sloman designs?

As in one more fable invented by John Fields and enthusiastically
believed in by Mike Terrell.
The usual case of the dumb fantasist misleading the even dumber brown-
nose

Hell, if I wanted to invent a _real_ fable it'd be that you knew what
you were talking about.

One of your problems is that you think that your fables do describe
reality.

Quote:
But no one would believe it, so what'd be the point?

John Fields trots out one of the - many - fables with which he
comforts himself.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
Guest

Sat Feb 06, 2010 8:36 pm   



Bill Sloman wrote:
Quote:
On Feb 6, 7:30 pm, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com
wrote:
Martin Montonion wrote:
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
Bill Slomanwrote:
On Feb 5, 1:03 pm, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
CERN's black hole cannon not working right for a other 2 years.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/05/science/05collide.html?ref=science
Will run only at half power until 2012.
Not a much better search for the Higgs then the 7 years at 2 TeV
that Fermilab already has.
LOL
What a joke.
3.5 TeV for two years may not be much better than 2 TeV for seven
years, but it is still better than nothing, which is what the
theortical physicists had when the super-conducting magnet blew up
The joke is your claim that Large Hadron Collider isn't working right.
It is doing exactly what its operators want it to do, demonstrating
that all the sub-systems are doing what they are supposed to when
operating under a substantial proportion of the design load
It isn't doing what the theoritical phsycists would like it to do,
which is to start working at its design energy right now, but happily
the slow and cautious brigade have got their wish.
The real disaster is waiting to happen - no new physics at all even at
full power. Can you imagine what the next request for an even more
powerful and more expensive machine will sound like after that?
Why do you call this a disaster ? It's the normal scientific process.
You have a theory that something cool will happen when you try X, so you
make an experiment. If what you expected does not happen then you know
that your theory was wrong, that is, you gained some new knowledge -
it's no disaster !
Whether (or better: when) a new more powerful machine will be built is a
political decision.
Exactly.
"Hey we blew a few billion on this machine and discovered nothing. So
now we want another few billion to build another machine that may
discover nothing". I think it would be the end of the line for Big$ physics.

Not before time. Every generation of accelerator has been roughly an
order of magnitude more expensive than its predecessor. Eventually
other approaches have got to become more cost-effective.

But there is still plenty of medium-sized physics around to soak up
funding - gravity wave detectors and neutrino-telescopes come to mind.

I think the big breakthroughs are going to come at the level where QM
meets the macroscopic.

--
Dirk

http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show

Bill Sloman
Guest

Sat Feb 06, 2010 9:00 pm   



On Feb 6, 6:04 pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 14:53:25 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 5, 8:30 pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 09:09:23 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 5, 4:57 pm, Okkim Atnarivik
Okkim.Atnari...@twentyfour.fi.invalid> wrote:
Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:

: CERN's black hole cannon not working right for a other 2 years.

  After their cryogenic system failed, and after the incident of
some bird having made its nest within the accelerator (causing
a short circuit or something) I started hearing this theory:
Discovery of the Higgs boson will turn out to facilitate time
travel, and now the unverse is protecting causality.
In other words, the accelerator will never work.

A nice theory, but not original.

---
So what?

None of your hydrophobic blather is original either, and yet you don't
seem to mind spewing it ad nauseam.

Not a contention that you have actually proved, and not a contention
that you would be equipped to prove if it happened to be correct
(which it isn't).

---
Well, I guess I was a little hasty in saying that none of your
hydrophobic blather is original when what I should have said was that
very little of your hydrophobic blather is original.

And even though you missed my implication, the point still stands; it
being that you criticize others for repeating what they've heard when
you do the same thing, hypocrite, and expect to get away with it with
impunity.

The difference is that I actually understand a fair bit of what I pick
up and broadcast. This isn't a form of comprehension that you can
either understand or share, so it would be difficult to for you to see
the difference.

Quote:
You may know everything that there is to know about the 555 - except
which modern devices do its job better - but you don't know much about
anything else, as you frequently take pains to tell us.

---
Those are just a couple more of the convenient untruths you try to
peddle as fact by endless, mind-numbing repetition.

As a refutation of the first lie, here's the code for a
crystal-controlled 40kHz astable I designed to drive an IRLED using a
Motorola MC68HC05K1, instead of a 555, about 16 years ago:

Wonderful. You eventually found out about the MC68Hc05 in 1994, and
recognised its potential as a device for replacing a 555 when you
actually wanted stable and predictable timing intervals.

How long did the customer have to hang you over a slow fire before he
could persuade you that the 555 was inadequate?

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

Bill Sloman
Guest

Sat Feb 06, 2010 9:01 pm   



On Feb 6, 7:30 pm, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Quote:
Martin Montonion wrote:
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:

Bill Slomanwrote:
On Feb 5, 1:03 pm, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
CERN's black hole cannon not working right for a other 2 years.
 http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/05/science/05collide.html?ref=science
Will run only at half power until 2012.
Not a much better search for the Higgs then the 7 years at 2 TeV
that Fermilab already has.

LOL
What a joke.

3.5 TeV for two years may not be much better than 2 TeV for seven
years, but it is still better than nothing, which is what the
theortical physicists had when the super-conducting magnet blew up

The joke is your claim that Large Hadron Collider isn't working right..
It is doing exactly what its operators want it to do, demonstrating
that all the sub-systems are doing what they are supposed to when
operating under a substantial proportion of the design load

It isn't doing what the theoritical phsycists would like it to do,
which is to start working at its design energy right now, but happily
the slow and cautious brigade have got their wish.

The real disaster is waiting to happen - no new physics at all even at
full power. Can you imagine what the next request for an even more
powerful and more expensive machine will sound like after that?

Why do you call this a disaster ? It's the normal scientific process.
You have a theory that something cool will happen when you try X, so you
make an experiment. If what you expected does not happen then you know
that your theory was wrong, that is, you gained some new knowledge -
it's no disaster !

Whether (or better: when) a new more powerful machine will be built is a
political decision.

Exactly.
"Hey we blew a few billion on this machine and discovered nothing. So
now we want another few billion to build another machine that may
discover nothing". I think it would be the end of the line for Big$ physics.

Not before time. Every generation of accelerator has been roughly an
order of magnitude more expensive than its predecessor. Eventually
other approaches have got to become more cost-effective.

But there is still plenty of medium-sized physics around to soak up
funding - gravity wave detectors and neutrino-telescopes come to mind.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

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