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Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:45 pm   

On Sunday, February 23, 2020 at 9:32:20 PM UTC-5, All Bumbed Up wrote:
On 2/23/20 11:19 AM, jjhudak4_at_gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, February 21, 2020 at 9:46:50 AM UTC-5, Jeff Urban wrote:
On Friday, February 21, 2020 at 12:04:14 AM UTC-5, All Bumbed Up wrote:

BAMA has about a dozen of them. Probably won't be what you want but you, like many, come in here with no fucking details.

Radio Shack never made a fucking thing, it was all made by others. Their better audio I think was Rotel mostly but a little bit of Pioneer.

I won't think you want to tell us WHAT you need a manual for. I do not understand why it is a secret.

You want to use SER ? Make, model, WHAT the damn ting is, what are the inputs ad outputs. If you got image hosting then pictures. What have you tried so far and what were the results ? Did you get a change in symptoms ? Have you checked the power supply ? It is completely dead ? In act what IS the symptom ?

I tell you this, I studied a bit of psychology when I was younger and before they frigged it all up. (the dumbass DSM had not even been conceived) I can tell when people are lying, sometimes before they speak.

But I can't read minds. That is a whole different thing and at this point in evolution is beyond our abilities.

Hey, you a mechanic ? Friend of mine has a car that won't start. Help me.

Don't ya just love it? Yea, car won't start - whats wrong? lol
OTOH, maybe the op is a 10 yo kid just beginning to learn the ways of the world...still, a little effort such a throwing some keywords on Google would go a long way and show some initiative. It amazes me how lazy people are.

You and your partner were quick to criticize and show sarcasm, but did
it ever occur that I already googled it, many, many times over the last
few weeks in fact? My original error was noted, but I understand the
Radio Shack unit is similar but I challenge either one of you to find a
service manual online somewhere for free for either one! Even the
closest paid one I could find for the Radio Shack unit was only a
"partial" and I have no idea what that could mean.

Yes, some folks are lazy, but not this folk. Try finding it yourselves
if you dare.

Yes, thank you. It did occur to me that you may have searched, but then it also occurred to me that since you gave no indication that you didn't, or provide any background/relevant information, I assumed it was lack of effort. Mia culpa.
Then again, one could have provided just a terse answer as the question, or no response at all.

It is a give and take thing...people that respond here take time to provide helpful information. Sometimes they go beyond 1-2 sentence responses and search/dig up information to help answer the questions. In order to do that,it is extremely helpful to know a base set of details and some clue of what the OP has done in order to solve their problem.
good luck

Jeff Liebermann

Tue Feb 25, 2020 3:45 am   

On Sun, 23 Feb 2020 21:32:15 -0500, All Bumbed Up
<allbummedup_at_cao.net> wrote:

... but did
it ever occur that I already googled it, many, many times over the last
few weeks in fact?

Nope. I appreciate your compliments, but members of this newsgroup
are not normally blessed with clairvoyance, mind reading, and the
ability to read between the lines. I do own a crystal ball, but it is
in dire need of an unobtainium recharge and is therefore currently
non-functional. While omnipresence (looking over your shoulder), and
omniscience (knowing all things) are useful tools, not everyone can
afford exchanging their eternal soul for these benefits. Therefore,
it would be best if you supply the missing information needed to
answer a question. May I suggest the following template:

1. What are you trying to accomplish? Not a detailed description.
Just a one line general description of the problem so that the
newsgroup gods might have a clue what you're doing.

2. What are you working with? That means names and numbers, not
vague and ambiguous descriptions. Manufacturers name, full model
number, revisions, firmware version, etc. As many numbers as you can
find. Extra credit for providing a URL to the data sheet or service
manual so we don't need to waste time finding the documentation.

3. What have you done so far and where are you stuck? Please do not
assume that everything you've done is correct until you arrived at an
impasse. It's highly likely that you did something wrong or badly.
Notice that I'm not really interested in a detailed description of all
the right or wrong things that you've done. Just a short list.

4. What level of ability and what test equipment are available?
Notice that I didn't say "your level of ability" or "test equipment
that you own". Just who do you have handy (including yourself) that
can help with the problem, and what aids can you borrow? I'm not
going to write a detailed test procedure only to find that you don't
have access to any test equipment (or that the test equipment doesn't

There are probably a dozen other things that would be of interest but
the aforementioned are the most interesting. If you've invented
something new, patentable, or believe that you're entitled to a Nobel
Prize, you might reconsider asking questions. If you're working on a
commercial project under NDA, and you value your job and bank account,
I would also reconsider asking questions.

Good luck and thanks again for suggesting that I can read minds at a
distance (telepathy):
Brain-To-Brain Communication Finally Achieved!

Jeff Liebermann jeffl_at_cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
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