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John Larkin
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Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:05 am   



What's going on? I see a lot of web sites that have keywords
highlighted, and if I accidentally mouse over one, an idiotic Bing
search box pops up, and you have to click a tiny x to make it go away
and keep reading.

Has Microsoft decided to obliterate whatever tiny amount of goodwill
that they may have left?

John

Paul Hovnanian P.E.
Guest

Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:22 am   



Joerg wrote:
Quote:

John Larkin wrote:
What's going on? I see a lot of web sites that have keywords
highlighted, and if I accidentally mouse over one, an idiotic Bing
search box pops up, and you have to click a tiny x to make it go away
and keep reading.


One trick that sometimes seems to work is to click "Stop" on the browser
the millisecond the text on a page has finished loading. Util they find
out more people are doing that and load the crap first.

It's triggered by a Javascript onmouseover() command on some sites. Turn
off Javascript.

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Joerg
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Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:32 am   



John Larkin wrote:
Quote:
What's going on? I see a lot of web sites that have keywords
highlighted, and if I accidentally mouse over one, an idiotic Bing
search box pops up, and you have to click a tiny x to make it go away
and keep reading.


One trick that sometimes seems to work is to click "Stop" on the browser
the millisecond the text on a page has finished loading. Util they find
out more people are doing that and load the crap first.


Quote:
Has Microsoft decided to obliterate whatever tiny amount of goodwill
that they may have left?


Maybe some day they'll get sued by the company that had the name Bing
since the year 1866:

http://www.bingpower.de/german/products/products.html

They make carburetors for things like BMW motorcycles.

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Regards, Joerg

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"gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam.
Use another domain or send PM.

Joerg
Guest

Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:23 am   



Paul Hovnanian P.E. wrote:
Quote:
Joerg wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
What's going on? I see a lot of web sites that have keywords
highlighted, and if I accidentally mouse over one, an idiotic Bing
search box pops up, and you have to click a tiny x to make it go away
and keep reading.

One trick that sometimes seems to work is to click "Stop" on the browser
the millisecond the text on a page has finished loading. Util they find
out more people are doing that and load the crap first.

It's triggered by a Javascript onmouseover() command on some sites. Turn
off Javascript.


Sure, but some manufacturer sites don't work without it anymore because
the script kiddies have made it into the marketing departments :-(

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

"gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam.
Use another domain or send PM.

coldfeet
Guest

Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:32 am   



On Feb 24, 5:05 pm, John Larkin
<jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
Quote:
What's going on? I see a lot of web sites that have keywords
highlighted, and if I accidentally mouse over one, an idiotic Bing
search box pops up, and you have to click a tiny x to make it go away
and keep reading.

Has Microsoft decided to obliterate whatever tiny amount of goodwill
that they may have left?

John

Irritating piece of shit isn't it? I especially appreciate how it
comes with IE and if you don't remove it, it tries to hijack every
google search that you do. I don't even use IE anymore; always use
Firefox if I can.

Rich Webb
Guest

Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:43 am   



On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 15:05:30 -0800, John Larkin
<jjlarkin_at_highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

Quote:

What's going on? I see a lot of web sites that have keywords
highlighted, and if I accidentally mouse over one, an idiotic Bing
search box pops up, and you have to click a tiny x to make it go away
and keep reading.

Has Microsoft decided to obliterate whatever tiny amount of goodwill
that they may have left?

Surf with Opera and set its default to disable javascript and embedded
content (i.e., flash) as well as to discard all cookies when closing the
browser. Once that's set, you have the option on a site-by-site basis of
permitting javascript or flash or persistent cookies.

Much less junk (no Bing popups-- first I'd heard of this little
annoyance) and also less vulnerability to a drive-by infection when
hitting a new site.

--
Rich Webb Norfolk, VA

Jim Thompson
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Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:55 am   



On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:43:51 -0500, Rich Webb
<bbew.ar_at_mapson.nozirev.ten> wrote:

Quote:
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 15:05:30 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin_at_highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:


What's going on? I see a lot of web sites that have keywords
highlighted, and if I accidentally mouse over one, an idiotic Bing
search box pops up, and you have to click a tiny x to make it go away
and keep reading.

Has Microsoft decided to obliterate whatever tiny amount of goodwill
that they may have left?

Surf with Opera and set its default to disable javascript and embedded
content (i.e., flash) as well as to discard all cookies when closing the
browser. Once that's set, you have the option on a site-by-site basis of
permitting javascript or flash or persistent cookies.

Much less junk (no Bing popups-- first I'd heard of this little
annoyance) and also less vulnerability to a drive-by infection when
hitting a new site.

I haven't noticed any "Bing" problems when using Firefox, but I block
everything initially, then allow what I want.

...Jim Thompson
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Paul Hovnanian P.E.
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Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:07 am   



Bing Is No Good (recursive definition).

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AZ Nomad
Guest

Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:55 am   



On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 15:05:30 -0800, John Larkin <jjlarkin_at_highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

Quote:
What's going on? I see a lot of web sites that have keywords
highlighted, and if I accidentally mouse over one, an idiotic Bing
search box pops up, and you have to click a tiny x to make it go away
and keep reading.

Has Microsoft decided to obliterate whatever tiny amount of goodwill
that they may have left?

You could disable that behavior by disabling javascript globally,
or just on that page with firefox and the noscript extension.

Better yet, turn away from the dark side and use google.

mpm
Guest

Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:29 am   



On Feb 24, 6:22 pm, "Paul Hovnanian P.E." <P...@Hovnanian.com> wrote:
Quote:
Joerg wrote:

John Larkin wrote:
What's going on? I see a lot of web sites that have keywords
highlighted, and if I accidentally mouse over one, an idiotic Bing
search box pops up, and you have to click a tiny x to make it go away
and keep reading.

One trick that sometimes seems to work is to click "Stop" on the browser
the millisecond the text on a page has finished loading. Util they find
out more people are doing that and load the crap first.

It's triggered by a Javascript onmouseover() command on some sites. Turn
off Javascript.

--
Paul Hovnanian     mailto:P...@Hovnanian.com
------------------------------------------------------------------
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^[zz ^[ZZZZZZ ^H  man vi ^@  ^L  ^[c  ^# ^E ^X ^I ^T ? help  helpquit ^D
man quit ^C ^c  ?Quit ?q CtrlShftDel "Hey, what does this button d..."

The problem with this approach is you'll run into sites that need
Javascript to run right, or sites that you'll want to have Javascript.
You can't have a unique browswer setting for every web page you
hit. That's 100% stupid.
Oh, we are talking Microsoft here, my mistake...

If you truly want to get pissed off, try sticking with IE6.
In IE6, you can't even turn Bing off. You MUST upgrade.
And of course, when you do that, (like IE8), some sites that used to
work fine, no longer do.
And then, IE8 is "much" slower to initialize and run.

I'd roll back if a) it weren't for Bing, and b) if rolling back didn't
have even worse consequences!!

mpm
Guest

Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:32 am   



On Feb 24, 6:05 pm, John Larkin
<jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
Quote:
What's going on? I see a lot of web sites that have keywords
highlighted, and if I accidentally mouse over one, an idiotic Bing
search box pops up, and you have to click a tiny x to make it go away
and keep reading.

Has Microsoft decided to obliterate whatever tiny amount of goodwill
that they may have left?

John

Thanks John!!
Now that I think about it, you've inadvertently made me feel pretty
good about a project we're working on.
It's obvious our idea is a game-changer for a certain industry, but
everyone seems to be "radio-silent" about our solution.
(What they should be doing is lining up to take it off our hands!)

Your comments remind me that big companies OFTEN make stupid mistakes!
Like trying to ignore the 800-pound gorilla in the corner!

Guess I'll sleep well tonight....!!!

D Yuniskis
Guest

Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:32 am   



Hi Paul,

Paul Hovnanian P.E. wrote:
Quote:
Bing Is No Good (recursive definition).

I'm sure MS thinks of it as:

BING Is Not Google

JeffM
Guest

Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:32 am   



Jim Thompson wrote:
Quote:
I haven't noticed any "Bing" problems when using Firefox,
but I block everything initially, then allow what I want.

Yup. This should be the first thing installed after the browser:

http://noscript.net/features#basics

John Larkin
Guest

Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:36 am   



On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:55:36 -0600, AZ Nomad
<aznomad.3_at_PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote:

Quote:
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 15:05:30 -0800, John Larkin <jjlarkin_at_highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

What's going on? I see a lot of web sites that have keywords
highlighted, and if I accidentally mouse over one, an idiotic Bing
search box pops up, and you have to click a tiny x to make it go away
and keep reading.

Has Microsoft decided to obliterate whatever tiny amount of goodwill
that they may have left?

You could disable that behavior by disabling javascript globally,
or just on that page with firefox and the noscript extension.

Better yet, turn away from the dark side and use google.

I do use Firefox and google. But some sites insist on popping up the
bing box. I guess I'll just bail as soon as I see that happen. I bet
Microsoft is paying them to do this, to promote Bing.

BING = Bing Is Not Google.

John

Michael A. Terrell
Guest

Thu Feb 25, 2010 5:17 am   



Joerg wrote:
Quote:

Paul Hovnanian P.E. wrote:
Joerg wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
What's going on? I see a lot of web sites that have keywords
highlighted, and if I accidentally mouse over one, an idiotic Bing
search box pops up, and you have to click a tiny x to make it go away
and keep reading.

One trick that sometimes seems to work is to click "Stop" on the browser
the millisecond the text on a page has finished loading. Util they find
out more people are doing that and load the crap first.

It's triggered by a Javascript onmouseover() command on some sites. Turn
off Javascript.


Sure, but some manufacturer sites don't work without it anymore because
the script kiddies have made it into the marketing departments Sad


Modern browsers allow you to turn it on only for selectred sites.


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Greed is the root of all eBay.

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