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Harry Newton
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Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:56 pm   



On 10 Jan 2018 07:25:24 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

Quote:
You misunderstand

Nah. You just suck ass as a human being.


I'm actually a very nice guy.
I just happen to be very well educated, logical, and intelligent.
Hence, we won't likely get along well.

Harry Newton
Guest

Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:02 pm   



On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 12:06:34 -0500, nospam wrote:

> there isn't anything to fix.

Rickman,

I was trying to hint to you that nospam is *different* than the other half
dozen fundamentalist Apple Apologists.
*Jolly Roger, Lewis, nospam, BKonRamp, Savageduck, Hemidactylus, etc.*

He actually doesn't believe a thing he says (because he knows the facts and
actually understands them, unlike the other Apple Apologists).

Always keep in mind that, while all half dozen of the die-hard Apple
Apologists have a belief system which is vulnerable to facts, nospam
actually *knows* his facts.

He simply has a propensity to flaty outright deny them.

Why?
You tell me why.

Here's what he does all the time:
rickman: Your equation of 1+1=3 is wrong; so it needs to be fixed.
nopsam: There isn't anything to fix.

Harry Newton
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Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:07 pm   



On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 13:35:46 -0800, sms wrote:

Quote:
Or it can be designed with adequate passive cooling.

That would needlessly reduce performance in most use. A lot of devices
are now designed with thermal sensors that allow a performance level
that cannot be sustained for long periods of time under certain conditions.


Bear in mind that 'reduced performance' (aka permanently halving the CPU
speeds) is the solution that Apple came up with (secretly, of course)...

"Apple said it introduced this behavior last year, for the iPhone
6, 6S, and SE, as a way to prevent random shutdowns" of year old
phones.
<https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/12/28/16825288/htc-motorola-dont-slow-processor-speeds-old-batteries-apple>

Bearing in mind the Orwellian doublespeak of "peak performance" really
means halving the CPU speeds...

"In other words, Apple decided on behalf of its customers that they'd
prefer an iPhone that performed worse for the same amount of time,
than an iPhone that performed just as well for a shorter amount of
time. It's a decision that does nothing to dispel the characterization
of Apple as a company that does what it can to push customers into
buying new phones."
<https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/11/16878412/iphone-slowdown-battery-replacement-wait-times-6-plus-supply-shortage>

Harry Newton
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Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:17 pm   



On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 13:26:45 -0800, sms wrote:

Quote:
So they don't work "fine".+AKA- My understanding is if Apple didn't install
software to throttle the CPU the battery would cause the phone to
shutdown. That's not working "perfectly fine".

No.

Whether the battery is brand new, or three years old, if it's in a low
state of charge it could shut down under heavy processor demand.

Here are the good choices:

1. Shut the phone down before the battery is discharged to a level that
would cause an unexpected shutdown if high demand were placed on the
battery. If this event occurs after an abnormally short amount of
operating time, inform the user that a battery replacement is needed.

2. Reduce performance only when the battery is discharged to a level
that would cause an unexpected shutdown if high demand were placed on
the battery.

3. Give the user the option of a "battery-saver" mode that would reduce
performance in order to increase the operating time.


For rickman, sms is NOT an Apple Apologist, so you can have a normal adult
conversation with him.

To sms, the fact that the very many sudden and unexpected shutdowns in the
first year of use blindsided Apple merely indicates that Apple made an
eggregious design mistake that they missed in their testing procedures.

"Apple could have also avoided this issue by designing phones with
bigger batteries that don't degrade as quickly."
https://gizmodo.com/now-the-senate-wants-answers-about-apples-iphone-thrott-1821975549

So, the better choice, IMHO, would have been for Apple to rectify the
design mistake, which may be as simple as using larger batteries for all we
know.

"Apple could have designed phones that didn't need these guardrails
just a year after their release."
<https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/12/28/16825288/htc-motorola-dont-slow-processor-speeds-old-batteries-apple>


Guest

Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:20 pm   



On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 10:13:16 -0700, Snit
<usenet_at_gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

Quote:
On 1/11/18, 9:15 AM, in article qb3f5dddra0v0km4sr8a7kgbipjhmkdreb_at_4ax.com,
"BK_at_Onramp.net" <BK_at_Onramp.net> wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 09:53:36 -0600, Fox's Mercantile <jdangus_at_att.net
wrote:

On 1/11/18 9:09 AM, Harry Newton wrote:
Bear in mind that Fox' Mercantile is the utter moron Snit

Wrong again you ignorant cunt.

Could you repeat this message? I only have three of them. :-)

He is merely responding to Harry's lies, which are repeated far more than
just three times.


I was just pulling his chain.

Harry Newton
Guest

Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:38 pm   



On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 13:53:45 -0500, nospam wrote:

Quote:
There are ways to check if Apple secretly throttled the CPU on your phone.

none that end users can run.


You're funny because you love to contort facts, and we know you absolutely
*love* to quote *benchmarks* (especially cross-platform benchmarks) when it
suits your purpose.

Plus you know about the app CPU dasher X, which reputedly reports what you
call "peak cpu" speeds, which is like huge speedbumps put on a highway to
slow down your maximum CPU speed to less than half what is possible.
<https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/cpu-dasherx/id1168527539?mt=8>

There are a few ways to check to see if Apple halved the performance of
your iPhone after just a year of use:
How to check if Apple is throttling your iPhone
<http://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-check-if-apple-slowing-down-your-iphone-2018-1>
<http://dsniggas.net/2018/01/04/have-a-slow-iphone-how-to-check-if-apple-is-throttling-your-iphone/>
<http://www.applegazette.com/iphone/apple-throttling-iphone-can-check/>

Here+IBk-s a list of the average Geekbench scores for each iPhone model:
iPhone 6/6 Plus +IBQ- 1400
iPhone 6S/6S Plus +IBQ- 2300
iPhone SE +IBQ- 2400
iPhone 7/7 Plus +IBQ- 3400
<https://finance.yahoo.com/news/apple-slowing-down-iphone-fix-221529035.html>

You *love* to quote benchmarks, especially when they suit your need.
What's your aversion to benchmarks now, when they don't suit your fixed
belief system?

Harry Newton
Guest

Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:44 pm   



On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 13:53:44 -0500, nospam wrote:

Quote:
The user experience is *definitely* impacted when the phones shut down.

which is why apple has taken steps to avoid that from happening.


Indeed they did! :)

"Apple intentionally pushed iOS updates, including but not limited
to iOS 10 and 11 and their variants, despite knowing that the
updates imposed performance demands that the phones' hardware
could not meet, throttled the phones' performance, and otherwise
negatively impacted the performance and utility of the phones,"

<http://www.zdnet.com/article/iphone-throttling-class-actions-pile-up-as-apple-hit-with-32nd-lawsuit/>

Fox's Mercantile
Guest

Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:45 pm   



On 1/11/18 12:56 PM, Harry Newton wrote:
> I'm actually a very nice guy.

I doubt that.

> I just happen to be very well educated, logical, and intelligent.

I doubt that even more.

> Hence, we won't likely get along well.

This is the image I get from you.
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8SWMAQYQf0>



--
"I am a river to my people."
Jeff-1.0
WA6FWi
http:foxsmercantile.com

Jolly Roger
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Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:34 pm   



On 2018-01-11, harry newton <harry_at_at.invalid> wrote:
Quote:
He who is Jolly Roger said on 11 Jan 2018 17:53:09 GMT:

Blogger opinion pieces aren+IBk-t facts. Try harder.

"In other words


Again, blogger opinion pieces aren't facts.

You think nobody will notice you just decided to switch nyms right in
the fucking middle of this thread? You're a fool! Everyone sees your
trolling clearly. You can't even hide it anymore, senile old man.

Troll, troll, troll your boat...

--
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

Jolly Roger
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Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:37 pm   



On 2018-01-11, Harry Newton <harryne_wton_at_AlliOSusersJustGiveUp.com> wrote:
Quote:
On 11 Jan 2018 18:35:16 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

The feature in question prevents spontaneous shutdowns of devices with
dying batteries and extends runtime.

"In other words


Blogger opinion pieces aren't facts. The reality is most iPhones run
just fine for 3-5 years on the OEM battery, as anyone who has owned one
for more than a fucking year knows. Try harder. Your trolls are useless
and lame.

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JR

Jolly Roger
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Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:40 pm   



On 2018-01-11, Harry Newton <harryne_wton_at_AlliOSusersJustGiveUp.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 13:53:44 -0500, nospam wrote:

The user experience is *definitely* impacted when the phones shut down.

which is why apple has taken steps to avoid that from happening.

Indeed they did!


And Apple's customers appreciate it. Meanwhile trolls like you can't
stand it, which is why you are here in the Apple newsgroups trolling
about it to begin with.

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JR

Jolly Roger
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Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:17 am   



On 2018-01-11, Harry Newton <harryne_wton_at_AlliOSusersJustGiveUp.com> wrote:
Quote:

From what Apple stated, it's only the iPhone 6's and 7's, and perhaps
the 8's, and X'x that appareciably degrade in about a year


Apple didn't say anything even close to that silly claim, and you
haven't provided anything but blogger opinion pieces devoid of factual
information to back it up.

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Jolly Roger
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Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:20 am   



On 2018-01-11, Harry Newton <harryne_wton_at_AlliOSusersJustGiveUp.com> wrote:
Quote:
On 11 Jan 2018 18:35:18 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

the batteries work perfectly fine in normal everyday use.

Which is why the iPhones suddenly shut down in use.

False.

"In other words


Blogger opinion pieces devoid of facts aren't evidence of a widespread
battery failure in under a year. Anyone who has owned an iPhone for
longer than a year know you're full of shit.

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Jolly Roger
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Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:23 am   



On 2018-01-11, Harry Newton <harryne_wton_at_AlliOSusersJustGiveUp.com> wrote:
Quote:
On 10 Jan 2018 07:25:24 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

You misunderstand

Nah. You just suck ass as a human being.

I'm actually a very nice guy.


That's why you troll the Apple newsgroups incessantly attacking complete
strangers and switching nyms to avoid filtering. That's what "nice guys"
do. Momma must be so proud.

> I just happen to be very well educated, logical, and intelligent.

You're a delusional old man who gets his only kicks antagonizing
complete strangers due to an irrational and obsessive hatred for Apple.

> Hence, we won't likely get along well.

There's the first fact you've ever uttered in this thread.

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Harry Newton
Guest

Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:50 am   



On 11 Jan 2018 21:34:13 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

> Again, blogger opinion pieces aren't facts.

Facts don't undermine my belief system like they do yours.

"Apple intentionally pushed iOS updates, including but not limited
to iOS 10 and 11 and their variants, despite knowing that the
updates imposed performance demands that the phones' hardware
could not meet, throttled the phones' performance, and otherwise
negatively impacted the performance and utility of the phones,"

<http://www.zdnet.com/article/iphone-throttling-class-actions-pile-up-as-apple-hit-with-32nd-lawsuit/>

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